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norriedh

Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 6
Location: Calgary, Canada

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: Rivets: Update on where to buy

There have been posts on this site as well as the Zenith and CH701 

Matronics sites about where to buy additional A4 and A5 rivets. 

These note that the English-made rivets which are the ones 

traditionally recommended as being of best quality were available 

from Avdel Division of Textron Canada Ltd, Ph 1-800-268-9947 or (416)

679-0622. These English-made rivets are no longer available from 

this source, in fact, these rivets are not made in England any more and in any case are now not sold anywhere in North America.



However, Textron, above, still sell the A4 and A5 rivets to the same 

strength specifications but they are made in Textron's own factory 

in China. I talked to one of their technical people and was assured 

that the factory does all the necessary testing to ensure the rivets 

are up to the spec (Textron's website gives the strength and other 

data). Even Zenith source their rivets from Textron above and no 

longer even do their own tests on each batch as they once did.



The part numbers and prices are



A4 01604-00412 49.99 CDN per thousand

A5 01604-00514 64.45 CDN per thousand



Textron will take orders online and accept credit card.



These rivets are also available from resellers including Zenith and 

others. Ordering direct from Textron is usually cheaper. 



The Textron tech said that they have done tests on holes in 

overlapping sheets where the holes did not line up. In general, the 

rivets wont line up the holes --- apparently the side forces 

generated are not too significant -- but he stressed that all the 

offset holes will get filled by rivet material (Unless the holes are 

way too much out of line). This agrees with my own testing -- I made 

overlapping coupons of 6061 sheet -- sometimes two sheets other 

times three - with sheet thicknesses varying from .016 to .040 inch -

-- sectioned the riveted coupons -- and found the A5 rivets would 

completely fill holes offset up to .020 and sometimes even more - 

and the A4 a bit less. 



Douglas N

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skyguynca

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 128

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: Rivets: Update on where to buy

The A4 and A5 rivets are avex rivets right? That is the brand name and they

are available from alot of suppliers.



David Mikesell

23597 N. Hwy 99

Acampo, CA 95220

209-609-8774

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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: Rivets: Update on where to buy

    You're a life saver!   I've been looking for an alternative source to Zenith for months now, with no luck.  Thanks!

norriedh <norried(at)shaw.ca> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: "norriedh" 



There have been posts on this site as well as the Zenith and CH701 

Matronics sites about where to buy additional A4 and A5 rivets. 

These note that the English-made rivets which are the ones 

traditionally recommended as being of best quality were available 

from Avdel Division of Textron Canada Ltd, Ph 1-800-268-9947 or (416)

679-0622. These English-made rivets are no longer available from 

this source, in fact, these rivets are not made in England any more and in any case are now not sold anywhere in North America.



However, Textron, above, still sell the  A4 and A5 rivets to the same 

strength specifications but they are made in Textron's own factory 

in China. I talked to one of their technical people and was assured 

that the factory does all the necessary testing to ensure the rivets 

are up to the spec (Textron's website gives the strength and other 

data). Even Zenith source their rivets from Textron above and no 

longer even do their own tests on each batch as they once did.



The part numbers and prices are



A4 01604-00412 49.99 CDN per thousand

A5 01604-00514 64.45 CDN per thousand



Textron will take orders online and accept credit card.



These rivets are also available from resellers including Zenith and 

others. Ordering direct from Textron is usually cheaper. 



The Textron tech said that they have done tests on holes in 

overlapping sheets where the holes did not line up. In general, the 

rivets wont line up the holes --- apparently the side forces

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mfothergill(at)sympatico.
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: Rivets: Update on where to buy

I had no trouble in picking up 500 of each of the rivet sizes last month 

at Textron.

Mike

UHS Spinners



norriedh wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 There have been posts on this site as well as the Zenith and CH701 

 Matronics sites about where to buy additional A4 and A5 rivets. 

 These note that the English-made rivets which are the ones 

 traditionally recommended as being of best quality were available 

 from Avdel Division of Textron Canada Ltd, Ph 1-800-268-9947 or (416)

 679-0622. These English-made rivets are no longer available from 

 this source, in fact, these rivets are not made in England any more and in any case are now not sold anywhere in North America.

 

 However, Textron, above, still sell the A4 and A5 rivets to the same 

 strength specifications but they are made in Textron's own factory 

 in China. I talked to one of their technical people and was assured 

 that the factory does all the necessary testing to ensure the rivets 

 are up to the spec (Textron's website gives the strength and other 

 data). Even Zenith source their rivets from Textron above and no 

 longer even do their own tests on each batch as they once did.

 

 The part numbers and prices are

 

 A4 01604-00412 49.99 CDN per thousand

 A5 01604-00514 64.45 CDN per thousand

 

 Textron will take orders online and accept credit card.

 

 These rivets are also available from resellers including Zenith and 

 others. Ordering direct from Textron is usually cheaper. 

 

 The Textron tech said that they have done tests on holes in 

 overlapping sheets where the holes did not line up. In general, the 

 rivets wont line up the holes --- apparently the side forces 

 generated are not too significant -- but he stressed that all the 

 offset holes will get filled by rivet material (Unless the holes are 

 way too much out of line). This agrees with my own testing -- I made 

 overlapping coupons of 6061 sheet -- sometimes two sheets other 

 times three - with sheet thicknesses varying from .016 to .040 inch -

 -- sectioned the riveted coupons -- and found the A5 rivets would 

 completely fill holes offset up to .020 and sometimes even more - 

 and the A4 a bit less. 

 

 Douglas N

 

 

 

 

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lrepilot(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:18 am Post subject: Rivets: Update on where to buy

what is the web address for buying these online? I

called Canada, they referred me to NC, who referred me

to an outfit in California who wanted $US 0.08 ech for

the A4 rivet, and had to call back east for P&D on the

A5 size. 

Ken



--- norriedh <norried(at)shaw.ca> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <norried(at)shaw.ca>

 

 There have been posts on this site as well as the

 Zenith and CH701 

 Matronics sites about where to buy additional A4 and

 A5 rivets. 

 These note that the English-made rivets which are

 the ones 

 traditionally recommended as being of best quality

 were available 

 from Avdel Division of Textron Canada Ltd, Ph

 1-800-268-9947 or (416)

 679-0622. These English-made rivets are no longer

 available from 

 this source, in fact, these rivets are not made in

 England any more and in any case are now not sold

 anywhere in North America.

 

 However, Textron, above, still sell the A4 and A5

 rivets to the same 

 strength specifications but they are made in

 Textron's own factory 

 in China. I talked to one of their technical people

 and was assured 

 that the factory does all the necessary testing to

 ensure the rivets 

 are up to the spec (Textron's website gives the

 strength and other 

 data). Even Zenith source their rivets from Textron

 above and no 

 longer even do their own tests on each batch as they

 once did.

 

 The part numbers and prices are

 

 A4 01604-00412 49.99 CDN per thousand

 A5 01604-00514 64.45 CDN per thousand

 

 Textron will take orders online and accept credit

 card.

 

 These rivets are also available from resellers

 including Zenith and 

 others. Ordering direct from Textron is usually

 cheaper. 

 

 The Textron tech said that they have done tests on

 holes in 

 overlapping sheets where the holes did not line up.

 In general, the 

 rivets wont line up the holes --- apparently the

 side forces 

 generated are not too significant -- but he stressed

 that all the 

 offset holes will get filled by rivet material

 (Unless the holes are 

 way too much out of line). This agrees with my own

 testing -- I made 

 overlapping coupons of 6061 sheet -- sometimes two

 sheets other 

 times three - with sheet thicknesses varying from

 .016 to .040 inch -

 -- sectioned the riveted coupons -- and found the A5

 rivets would 

 completely fill holes offset up to .020 and

 sometimes even more - 

 and the A4 a bit less. 

 

 Douglas N

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: Rivets: Update on where to buy

Aircraft Spruce sells these exact rivets. I compared them to the ones from 

ZAC and they are identical. They are Textron Avdel Avex rivets. Identical 

part numbers everyone has been giving for Canadian purchase. A4's are 4 

cents and A5's are 7 cents. Tou get a 10% discount off that price if you buy 

at least 100.



Part numbers:

A4  1604-0412

A5  1604-0514



Dave

Scratch building in Texas



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norriedh

Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 6
Location: Calgary, Canada

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Rivets: Update on where to buy

There is no online ordering that i could find for Textron Avdel Canada, you just phone the number i gave and ask for Avdel rivet to get that order desk. Ask for what you need and give address and credit card details, takes about a week for delivery.     Douglas N



[quote="lrepilot(at)yahoo.com"]what is the web address for buying these online? I

called Canada, they referred me to NC, who referred me

to an outfit in California who wanted $US 0.08 ech for

the A4 rivet, and had to call back east for P&D on the

A5 size. 

Ken

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