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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: Radiator shutters?

Need some help not reinventing the wheel: For whatever reason, my 582 had a tendency to run hot in the summer, so I added a skinny little dirt bike radiator to the system and everything was cool. (literally)



But it always had a tendency to run too cool in the winter, and now it is worse. An easy fix would be some shutters to block and unblock the main radiator, cockpit operated.



Anybody done that?

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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: Radiator shutters?

It shouldn't be all that hard. I have been using Duct tape to get mine in the close range. One strip or two, but it is a bit less than satisfactory. I am thinking a variation of the Venetian blind controlled by a push pull throttle type cable. My only problem is I am 130 miles from a metal supply.



The question is would you be better off with it in the wind stream in front of the radiator, or behind it to stop the wind flow?

Larry



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 Need some help not reinventing the wheel: For whatever reason, my 582 had a tendency to run hot in the summer, so I added a skinny little dirt bike radiator to the system and everything was cool. (literally)

 

 But it always had a tendency to run too cool in the winter, and now it is worse. An easy fix would be some shutters to block and unblock the main radiator, cockpit operated.

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator shutters?

I had  radiator louvers/shutters on my 582 PPC. They worked pretty good. On my second 582 I just used black duct tape to block half the radiator during the winter. I honestly think the duct tape is more simple and less results in less that could fly into the prop if it got loose.

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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:16 am Post subject: Radiator shutters?

in the winter I keep a small roll of the aluminum duct tape in the belly of 

the plane...  and for all intent and purpose,,,,   I lick a finger and stick 

it in the wind...  the more glove I wish I had on the finger is the amount 

of tape I put on the radiators.....  LOL     seems I can get quite close. 

my winter time flying has greatly diminished compared to the first couple of 

years I had the mark iii....   it seems the radiator needs 25 percent 

coverage and the oil cooler   100 percent.  and when it is below 20 deg.... 

I have to tape up both the front and back of the oil cooler if I want to 

keep the oil temps in the green.



boyd young



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But it always had a tendency to run too cool in the winter, and now it is 
	


worse.

An easy fix would be some shutters to block and unblock the main radiator, 

cockpit

operated. 

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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:46 am Post subject: Radiator shutters?

On 11/22/2014 10:14 AM, b young wrote:

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 in the winter I keep a small roll of the aluminum duct tape in the 

 belly of the plane...  and for all intent and purpose,,,,   I lick a 

 finger and stick it in the wind...  the more glove I wish I had on the 

 finger is the amount of tape I put on the radiators..... LOL     seems 

 I can get quite close. my winter time flying has greatly diminished 

 compared to the first couple of years I had the mark iii....   it 

 seems the radiator needs 25 percent coverage and the oil cooler   100 

 percent.  and when it is below 20 deg.... I have to tape up both the 

 front and back of the oil cooler if I want to keep the oil temps in 

 the green.



 boyd young



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 But it always had a tendency to run too cool in the winter, and now it 

 is worse.

 An easy fix would be some shutters to block and unblock the main 

 radiator, cockpit

 operated.

Like this?
	


http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1416681550-352-27&browse=engines&product=oil_shutter



It's made to fit an 'aircraft' style oil cooler (John H: note the 

quotes), so I don't know if it will directly fit your cooler.



You could get the same effect with less summertime obstruction by 

building a short rectangular duct to fit the heat exchanger and mount a 

'butterfly' style valve that fits in the duct. Control with a Bowden cable.



Charlie



Charlie

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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:48 pm Post subject: Radiator shutters?

At 08:05 PM 11/21/2014 -0800, you wrote:

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Anybody done that?



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Richard Pike

Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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Richard,



I used a radiator shutter with the Victor 1.  It is quite simple with most 

of the mechanism purchased as a child's automobile window shutter from Toy 

or Us(?).



I am slowly resurrecting my web site and when I saw your email, I made sure 

all the info on the shutter is available.



Use this jump: 

http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/fireflyindex.html to get to my web site.  

Then go to Victor 1+ and look at the last 8 on the list.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:41 pm Post subject: Radiator shutters?

On 11/22/2014 2:46 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote:

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 At 08:05 PM 11/21/2014 -0800, you wrote:

> 

> Anybody done that?

>

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> Richard Pike

> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

> Kingsport, TN 3TN0

 .......................................................................

 Richard,

 I used a radiator shutter with the Victor 1.  It is quite simple with most

 of the mechanism purchased as a child's automobile window shutter from Toy

 or Us(?).

 I am slowly resurrecting my web site and when I saw your email, I made sure

 all the info on the shutter is available.

 Use this jump:

 http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/fireflyindex.html to get to my web site.

 Then go to Victor 1+ and look at the last 8 on the list.

 Jack B. Hart FF004

 Winchester, IN

Brilliant! Will the shade open & close ok while in flight?

Do you have dimensions on the truck heater core? If possible, I'd like 

to know the dimensions (H/W/thickness) of just the core, and the overall 

dimensions. Also, what was the original size of the inlet/outlet 

fittings? (I tried to find Partsamerica.com, but the website is 

apparently dead.)

Thanks,

Charlie

jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
Guest

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:10 pm Post subject: Radiator shutters?

At 08:05 PM 11/21/2014 -0800, you wrote:

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Anybody done that?



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Richard Pike

Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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Richard,



I am sending this again because I missed a jump.  It describes how to modify 

the Graco window shade.  A direct jump is:



http://www.jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly149a.html



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Radiator shutters?

Thanks guys for all the help, now I've got some ideas that may just work. 

Jack; good to see you keeping your web site alive, you have a great ability to think outside the box, you are a true experimenter. My web site is going away in February, and I'm not sure if I want to try and start a new web site, or just let it go.

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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:55 am Post subject: Radiator shutters?

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Brilliant! Will the shade open & close ok while in flight?



Do you have dimensions on the truck heater core? If possible, I'd like 

to know the dimensions (H/W/thickness) of just the core, and the overall 

dimensions. Also, what was the original size of the inlet/outlet 

fittings? (I tried to find Partsamerica.com, but the website is 

apparently dead.)




	


Charlie,



Yes, one can adjust the shade in flight.



The heater core was used in a 1994 Ford Ranger pickup.



Core is 1.5 in thick, 7 in tall, & 5.5 in wide.



5/8 in diameter tubes.



Partsamerica.com is gone.  Carparts.com has them for less than $30.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:07 am Post subject: Radiator shutters?

Charlie,



Thought to check and Autozone has them for $25.



Partsamerica.com is gone.  Carparts.com has them for less than $30.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

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