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After checking the web site - Â Â https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ Â Â I decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I have tried.
The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them. Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as my base station. :-/
The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine very loudly. I use a sig  S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get more noise reduction. It had no effect.
One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to an MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the noise of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to protect your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have tried so far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set. Clarity aloft- at  around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen reviews by Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that the same can be said for the Quiet tech.
The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that I have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I recommend them, for what that is worth.
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I've been using the Quiet Technologies Halo headset for a few years now. No batteries and they claim that they are better than the best ANR. I think they are great and I have tried out the best ANR's including the Bose. I can hear traffic that I had a difficult time hearing before I got these.
Larry, you can trim the tubes down if they flop around too much. Trim them where they connect to the headset.
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | After checking the web site - Â Â https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ Â Â I decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I have tried.
The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them. Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as my base station. :-/
The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine very loudly. I use a sig  S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get more noise reduction. It had no effect.
One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to an MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the noise of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to protect your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have tried so far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set. Clarity aloft- at  around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen reviews by Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that the same can be said for the Quiet tech.
The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that I have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I recommend them, for what that is worth.
Larry
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I (and my wife) use them in my RV-4 & we both love them. Ours came with both foam and silicone inserts. We use the silicone ones because they are much faster to insert in our ears. The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the mic) but extreme noise levels will overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling QT & asking if there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one on mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain, it's worth checking on the mic input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c radios do have mic gain adjustments.Â
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Charlie said-
"The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the mic) but extreme noise levels will overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling QT & asking if there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one on mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain, it's worth checking on the mic input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c radios do have mic gain adjustments."
The reason that I was getting the feedback or the sound of the engine is that I was using the side tone on my intercom. I am not sure that a side tone is necessary with this headset because the reduction in engine noise is likely enough that one will be able to hear your own voice without it. If my recollection is correct, I had turned the side tone squelch so far to off position, I wasn't getting side tone anyway, but I had no problem knowing that my voice was going out over the radio. Further testing will be necessary- Dang it!  ;')
Larry
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | After checking the web site - Â Â https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ Â Â I decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I have tried.
The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them. Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as my base station. :-/
The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine very loudly. I use a sig  S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get more noise reduction. It had no effect.
One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to an MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the noise of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to protect your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have tried so far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set. Clarity aloft- at  around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen reviews by Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that the same can be said for the Quiet tech.
The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that I have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I recommend them, for what that is worth.
Larry
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I (and my wife) use them in my RV-4 & we both love them. Ours came with both foam and silicone inserts. We use the silicone ones because they are much faster to insert in our ears. The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the mic) but extreme noise levels will overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling QT & asking if there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one on mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain, it's worth checking on the mic input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c radios do have mic gain adjustments.Â
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Charlie wrote:The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the mic)Â
 I went out to check and I had the mike opening pointing to the front of the plane rather than at my mouth. Duh!
Larry
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| Quote: | After checking the web site - Â Â https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ Â Â I decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I have tried.
The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them. Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as my base station. :-/
The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine very loudly. I use a sig  S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get more noise reduction. It had no effect.
One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to an MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the noise of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to protect your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have tried so far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set. Clarity aloft- at  around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen reviews by Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that the same can be said for the Quiet tech.
The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that I have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I recommend them, for what that is worth.
Larry
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I (and my wife) use them in my RV-4 & we both love them. Ours came with both foam and silicone inserts. We use the silicone ones because they are much faster to insert in our ears. The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the mic) but extreme noise levels will overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling QT & asking if there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one on mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain, it's worth checking on the mic input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c radios do have mic gain adjustments.Â
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Yeah, that might make a difference. 
On 11/26/2014 5:48 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
[quote] Charlie wrote:The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the mic)Â
 I went out to check and I had the mike opening pointing to the front of the plane rather than at my mouth. Duh!
Larry
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | After checking the web site - Â Â https://www.quiettechnologies.com/ Â Â I decided to try these out. I basically have nothing wrong with my hearing that is not age related, but wearing glasses, I have trouble getting a good seal with my head set. I cannot afford (will not ) David Clarks because they squeeze my head enough that they become a distraction after an hour or so. I have settled for Sig S45's as they do as well as any ANR set that I have tried.
The weather has been interesting ever since I got the head set from them. Today was the best that I am likely to get, so I rolled the plane out, and after a bit of confusion, found that my radio was not on the same freq. as my base station. :-/
The set is very light, measured in ounces, and the feature that makes it work, is a hollow foam ear plug. If you get them rolled up and inserted in the ear correctly, the result is pretty amazing. Outside noise is reduced to the maximum amount and the sound from the radio is unimpeded into the ear canal. It is necessary to turn the volume down to keep the sound to a tolerable level. I am not sure if the mic is directional, and one of the things that I found was that if the squelch is turned up to the point that you can hear your own voice in the headset, you will also hear the engine very loudly. I use a sig  S 22 ? intercom, and that was the squelch that I had to turn down, so the radio was not affected. ( the main reason that I use the intercom was to be able to listen to a MP3 player. This headset has a plug in the side to add music ) I am going to have to experiment more but I rarely ever carry anyone that I need to talk to in the plane. I had the headphone plug in the Side tone socket. It might stop that if I don't use that feature. With the additional reduction in outside noise your voice rings quite nicely in your head without it. The one thing that I found to be a bit of a bother is the wire that holds the mic is pretty flimsy, and it takes a bit of fooling and adjusting to get it in the right place in front of your mouth. It has a tendency to snag on your clothing, especially now at 40 degrees, and get moved. I can live with that however.
I tried putting my Sig headset over the ear buds to see if I could get more noise reduction. It had no effect.
One of the things that has bothered me in the past is that listening to an MP3 requires me to turn it up loud enough that I can hear it over the noise of the engine, This set operates such that the noise of the engine is reduced not overpowered. For the first time I could hear the music loud enough that I had to turn the volume of the player down. The wife on the base station could not tell any difference in the sound between the two headsets, and she always came booming in for me.
The key to me has always been to reduce the outside sound enough to protect your hearing. This set does that better than anything that I have tried so far. There are to my knowledge two of this type of head set. Clarity aloft- at  around $500. and quiet Tech. at about $340. I have seen reviews by Airline Pilots that the Clarity is a bit fragile. I am sure that the same can be said for the Quiet tech.
The bottom line is that the noise reduction is better than anything that I have tried. I need to turn the radio output down with these. I have never had to do that with any other headset. They are light and comfortable. I recommend them, for what that is worth.
Larry
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I (and my wife) use them in my RV-4 & we both love them. Ours came with both foam and silicone inserts. We use the silicone ones because they are much faster to insert in our ears. The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back side of the mic) but extreme noise levels will overwhelm any mic's ability to cancel off-axis noise. I'd recommend calling QT & asking if there's a gain adjustment on the element. I didn't see one on mine, but there may be one. The owner is an audiologist and I'm pretty sure he'll do his best to help you out. If you can't reduce the mic's gain, it's worth checking on the mic input on your radio. Some panel mounted a/c radios do have mic gain adjustments.Â
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Larry....
my experience with noise canceling mikes... there should be a hole in the
front and the back... noise coming from any distance enters at near the
same time in the front and back openings,,, and the diaphragm has little
movement... noise coming from only 1 side, moves the diaphragm normally.
your mileage may vary
boyd
Charlie wrote:The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back
side of the mic)
I went out to check and I had the mike opening pointing to the front of
the plane rather than at my mouth. Duh!
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Yeah, after looking at it I found that I had the mike turned over. It is all on pretty flexible wire and it was easy to twist it around. It however is not clearly visible which is the front. I am used to yellow in front, brown in back. :-)Larry
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my experience with noise canceling mikes... there should be a hole in the front and the back...  noise coming from any distance enters at near the same time in the front and back openings,,, and the diaphragm has little movement... noise coming from only 1 side, moves the diaphragm normally.
your mileage may vary
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Charlie wrote:The mic is directional (notice the little hole on the back
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I went out to check and I had the mike opening pointing to the front of
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Larry
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:51 am Post subject: Quiet tech. Ear buds |
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Hey Larry:
Appreciate you keeping things basic so I can understand. 
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on the Kolb List. I mean everyone too.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Yeah, after looking at it I found that I had the mike turned over. It is all on pretty flexible wire and it was easy to twist it around. It however is not clearly visible which is the front. I am used to yellow in front, brown in back.
Larry
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undoctor
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Location: Bethelhem, PA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: Quiet tech. Ear buds |
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Same to you John, and the List.
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-------- Original message --------
From: John Hauck
Date:11/27/2014 11:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Quiet tech. Ear buds
Hey Larry:
Appreciate you keeping things basic so I can understand.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on the Kolb List. I mean everyone too.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Yeah, after looking at it I found that I had the mike turned over. It is all on pretty flexible wire and it was easy to twist it around. It however is not clearly visible which is the front. I am used to yellow in front, brown in back.
Larry
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