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Bill Vincent



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: First Airplane Reply with quote

Hi Gang
Here is a picture of my first airplane which was a T-Bird; I had approximately 200 hours on the plane before I "crashed" behind a house, luckily my injuries were minimal. Although I enjoyed the T-Bird, it does not compare to the fun I have with the Firestar II.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Hello
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Cessna 180 Floats
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

After 58 years of yearning, in April of 2003, I bought a Pterodactyl Pfledge, rented a shed from a farmer who didn't mind me using his driveway as a runway and proceeded to teach myself to fly. After a week of crow hops, 2 bent axles, and a ground loop, I lined it up on the driveway, set my mouth right, and turned that little cayuna (Indian for "falls from sky") loose. And yes, it was all I had dreamed & more. The mixture of exhilaration and apprehension was intense and the hook was set.
That fall I bought a 1985 Quicksilver MX Super Acrobatic and taught myself to do loops, rolls, and fly upside down. The next summer I earned a BFI from a local CFI in San Antonio and bought a Kolb Twinstar MK1 with a bent wing & a busted axle. As I began repairing the wing, I kept going a little further, until I decided to do a complete rebuild, recover, and repaint. Now, 2 years later I have it all rebuilt, primered, and partially recovered, but WOW, there sure are a lotsa pieces and GOO! Compared to fixing Quicksilvers that is, which I have done plenty of.
I'm now flying a 2003 Quicksilver MXLII with a 582 and giving lessons to a few local enthusiasts.
I started monitoring this list when I bought the Twinstar and have really enjoyed the knowledge, insight and chuckles it has given me every morning. Almost as good as a cup of coffee.
OH, and thanks to all the old timer first flight stories, at 61, I feel like kid again.
George
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Just for grins, I've recorded all the responses to this poll so far and posted them on a webpage. If you're interested, here's the URL:
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: First Airplane Reply with quote

| Here is a picture of my first airplane which was a T-Bird;
| --------
| Bill Vincent
Bill V:

Affectionately referred to the two place T-Bird at the Flight Farm,
Monterey, NY, back in '88 and '89, as the flying anchor. Never flew
in it, but watched it fly a lot when I would be there to attend the
annual flyins.

Glad you became a Kolb convert!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Ed C: No, you are Daedalus wrong! Cain't harly fly holdin' onta a
log, much less a book.
Russ: None of yer beeswax! They weren't feth-hers, they wuz jes lef'
over loose skin frum where Ah lost 10 ugly pounds.
John: Y'awl stop this here defamation, lessen Ah have Farmer Brown
sic his cows onta yer machine, an' eat yer elevators off.

An' furthermore, Ah wuz pro-pelled by flappin mah lips. Gonna shoot
off mah mouf fer Glorious Fourth of Jul.

Y'all be careful over the Fourth...Best seat in the house fer
fireworks is a couple thousand feet (not available to FAR103 vehicles).

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

An' this just in
Dave: Speaking of Apples: My "new" iMac G-5 got lightning-stroked in
her Ethernet card, but was within year's warranty by FOUR days!

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Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

GeorgeYou ARE a kid at 61! -- ask Bob Noyer, or for that matter, me .
Thanx for an entertaining recap of your early flights --
Russ
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On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:20 PM, George Myers wrote:
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After 58 years of yearning, in April of 2003, I bought a Pterodactyl Pfledge, rented a shed from a farmer who didn't mind me using his driveway as a runway and proceeded to teach myself to fly. After a week of crow hops, 2 bent axles, and a ground loop, I lined it up on the driveway, set my mouth right, and turned that little cayuna (Indian for "falls from sky") loose. And yes, it was all I had dreamed & more. The mixture of exhilaration and apprehension was intense and the hook was set.
That fall I bought a 1985 Quicksilver MX Super Acrobatic and taught myself to do loops, rolls, and fly upside down. The next summer I earned a BFI from a local CFI in San Antonio and bought a Kolb Twinstar MK1 with a bent wing & a busted axle. As I began repairing the wing, I kept going a little further, until I decided to do a complete rebuild, recover, and repaint. Now, 2 years later I have it all rebuilt, primered, and partially recovered, but WOW, there sure are a lotsa pieces and GOO! Compared to fixing Quicksilvers that is, which I have done plenty of.
I'm now flying a 2003 Quicksilver MXLII with a 582 and giving lessons to a few local enthusiasts.
I started monitoring this list when I bought the Twinstar and have really enjoyed the knowledge, insight and chuckles it has given me every morning. Almost as good as a cup of coffee.
OH, and thanks to all the old timer first flight stories, at 61, I feel like kid again.
George
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

I shoulda realized you are so good at flapping your lips that you
could get airborne that way.
You lost 10 ugly pounds? Did you cut off your head???!
as JH would say, hehehe
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On Jul 1, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Bob Noyer wrote:

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Ed C: No, you are Daedalus wrong! Cain't harly fly holdin' onta a
log, much less a book.
Russ: None of yer beeswax! They weren't feth-hers, they wuz jes
lef' over loose skin frum where Ah lost 10 ugly pounds.
John: Y'awl stop this here defamation, lessen Ah have Farmer Brown
sic his cows onta yer machine, an' eat yer elevators off.

An' furthermore, Ah wuz pro-pelled by flappin mah lips. Gonna shoot
off mah mouf fer Glorious Fourth of Jul.

Y'all be careful over the Fourth...Best seat in the house fer
fireworks is a couple thousand feet (not available to FAR103
vehicles).

regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Been a great thread.
 
  need to pick the 447 Firefly brains for a minute...
 
   Have about 3 or 4 hours on the bird over the last few days... Today, I flew from home abt 21 miles to Portland Tenn and then on over to Franklin Ky(where my EAA chapt is having a flyin on the 8th  with the first 80 chowing down for free..(slight donation requested for a cancer charity..).   Then I flew back to a grass strip in Scottsville and on to my strip at home..
 
   Used 3.05 gals and flew about 58 miles with 4 take offs and landings.. EGTs stayed around 1100 at 5800 with chts at 320 to 350.  EGTS seemed to climb toward 1200 from 5200 down to abt 4400..  60 inch, two blade IVO, with most of the pitch removed..(prop cut down from 66 inches) . Saw 60 to 70 mph cruise.. Never opened her up except on climb out where I made abt 6300 rpms.  Steep climb out..   How does all of that sound?   Thanks  Herb
 
 
 
On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 18:04:06 -0400 russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net (kinnepix(at)earthlink.net)> writes:
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George
You ARE a kid at 61! -- ask Bob Noyer, or for that matter, me .
Thanx for an entertaining recap of your early flights --
Russ
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On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:20 PM, George Myers wrote:
Quote:
After 58 years of yearning, in April of 2003, I bought a Pterodactyl Pfledge, rented a shed from a farmer who didn't mind me using his driveway as a runway and proceeded to teach myself to fly. After a week of crow hops, 2 bent axles, and a ground loop, I lined it up on the driveway, set my mouth right, and turned that little cayuna (Indian for "falls from sky") loose. And yes, it was all I had dreamed & more. The mixture of exhilaration and apprehension was intense and the hook was set.
That fall I bought a 1985 Quicksilver MX Super Acrobatic and taught myself to do loops, rolls, and fly upside down. The next summer I earned a BFI from a local CFI in San Antonio and bought a Kolb Twinstar MK1 with a bent wing & a busted axle. As I began repairing the wing, I kept going a little further, until I decided to do a complete rebuild, recover, and repaint. Now, 2 years later I have it all rebuilt, primered, and partially recovered, but WOW, there sure are a lotsa pieces and GOO! Compared to fixing Quicksilvers that is, which I have done plenty of.
I'm now flying a 2003 Quicksilver MXLII with a 582 and giving lessons to a few local enthusiasts.
I started monitoring this list when I bought the Twinstar and have really enjoyed the knowledge, insight and chuckles it has given me every morning. Almost as good as a cup of coffee.
OH, and thanks to all the old timer first flight stories, at 61, I feel like kid again.
George
 
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San Marcos, TX 78666
512-353-4860
http://geohome.sytes.net
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Eagle weightshift, 1984.
 
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Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Ken,
 
Thats very cool! Its interesting to see all the different vehicles we all first flew. I will check back for updates! One of the more interesting strings we have had a while... glad its back to being about flying...
 
Mike S
Manchester TN
 
 
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[quote] Just for grins, I've recorded all the responses to this poll so far and posted them on a webpage. If you're interested, here's the URL:
 
http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/first_plane.html
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Update on first airplane plane info  first flew in a  Vector 627 SR 1994 after working all night putting it together I figured it was ready and so was I 

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:12 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Hi Vince,
 
looks as though you have a really pretty set up.
 
We had a flat at Salcombe for a few years and loved the area.
 
Do you get to the Faraway Farm fly -in?  I made it in the Challenger last year. May make it in the Kolb this time.
 
Cheers
 
Pat
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Sweitzer 2-33.   No 2 cycle engine to be concerned with... no engine at all>>
 
Thats the way to go Herb.
 
I also had my first flight in  a glider. A Slingsby T21c on 21st June 1964. Soloed 4 hours flying time later which sounds good until you realise that I had done 54 flights by then.
Soloed in a Grunau, a German high wing single place open cockpit machine with a glide angle of about 16 to 1. Finished up in a 19metre span Jantar. plastic all singing hot ship which would do about 40 miles from 5000ft in a straight glide before it hit the ground.
 
Tried hang gliding in the very early days and broke my leg. When little engines were added I tried that and didn`t like the `weight shift` control system. I could fly the thing OK but having to push instead of pull to make the houses look smaller made it an accident waiting to happen for my reflexes.
Finally learned to fly ultralights in a Quicksilver with some sort of tip hinged airflow deflector instead of ailerons, controlled by loops of string. 
Bought a Thruster, then built the Challenger in 91.
Now the Kolb Extra with a Jabiru. Another hour clocked up this morning in terrible viz and lumpy thermals.
 
Wish I had the experience some of you chaps have had.
 
Cheers
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:04 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

Interesting how we Kolbers have met in the middle. Some from the early
"real" ultralights and some from the "real" airplanes. Pared it down to
a sensible size. Now when I taxi past a C-172, the thing looks huge,
like
a freight car with wings. -And to think people actually rented those
things
to fly solo for a hamburger! The SUVs of the air.
BB, drives a suzuki on the ground too.
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Sweitzer 2-33.   No 2 cycle engine to be concerned with... no engine
at all>>
 
Thats the way to go Herb.
 
I also had my first flight in  a glider. A Slingsby T21c on 21st June
1964. Soloed 4 hours flying time later which sounds good until you
realise that I had done 54 flights by then.
Soloed in a Grunau, a German high wing single place open cockpit
machine with a glide angle of about 16 to 1. Finished up in a 19metre
span Jantar. plastic all singing hot ship which would do about 40
miles from 5000ft in a straight glide before it hit the ground.
 
Tried hang gliding in the very early days and broke my leg. When
little engines were added I tried that and didn`t like the `weight
shift` control system. I could fly the thing OK but having to push
instead of pull to make the houses look smaller made it an accident
waiting to happen for my reflexes.
Finally learned to fly ultralights in a Quicksilver with some sort of
tip hinged airflow deflector instead of ailerons, controlled by loops
of string. 
Bought a Thruster, then built the Challenger in 91.
Now the Kolb Extra with a Jabiru. Another hour clocked up this morning
in terrible viz and lumpy thermals.
 
Wish I had the experience some of you chaps have had.
 
Cheers
 
Pat
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

My first solo was a Wizard 3 axis. One of those self thought pilots. Had some real bad habits. I was at a flyin and a fellow pilot felt sorry for me,let me show you how to land. Before that I was basicly flying into the ground looked like a basketball bouncing down the runway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: First airplane Reply with quote

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How about a poll on this? What was YOUR first airplane, the one that you
      actually flew?
       


My first aircraft was a "standard Ragallo wing" an 18 ' Sky Sports Hang Glider. Manufactured by Tom Peginney who is still in aviation owning the company which produces the Flightstar, CT, and is the US distributor of the HKS engine.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: First Airplane Reply with quote

It's pretty unexciting but my first lesson was in a Cherokee 180 in 1986... Confused

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