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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Tony Bingelis' books/ STICK AND RUDDER--- Reply with quote

I agree with you about the CFI being afraid of a forward slip. That
is outrageous.

However, there is another way to do a cross-wind landing. I learned
it from the old guy who was giving me instrument training. What you
do is fly a crab angle down to the level where you are in ground
effect - perhaps 10 feet off the ground and then kick the nose
straight down the runway with the rudder at the last
moment. Apparently, this is how it is done on large transport planes
where the wingspan prevents a forward slip because the landing will
take place on the upwind wing tip instead of the landing gear.

Paul
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It's a pretty sad situation when your CFI is afraid of slips. How
else can you make a cross-wind landing?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Tony Bingelis' books/ STICK AND RUDDER--- Reply with quote

Yes, I've heard of that method and have even tried it a few times in
strong crosswind conditions. That maneuver avoids a forward slip and
normal side slip but you are still kicking the plane into a side skid
momentarily just before touchdown. Not many planes are designed to
land in the crab.

I was taught how to slip the airplane by my instructors. They warned
me about being "cross controlled" elsewhere in the pattern but you
were normally supposed to be cross controlled on short final if you
had any cross wind. You can really get some steep approaches in a
high wing Cessna if you're not afraid of the forward slip. My Zodiac
will drop like a rock with full flaps and aggressive forward slip,
just remember to goose the throttle before touch down to arrest the
sink rate or you're in for a carrier style landing. Smile

On Jul 1, 2006, at 7:57 PM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:

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<p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att.net>

I agree with you about the CFI being afraid of a forward slip.
That is outrageous.

However, there is another way to do a cross-wind landing. I
learned it from the old guy who was giving me instrument training.
What you do is fly a crab angle down to the level where you are in
ground effect - perhaps 10 feet off the ground and then kick the
nose straight down the runway with the rudder at the last moment.
Apparently, this is how it is done on large transport planes where
the wingspan prevents a forward slip because the landing will take
place on the upwind wing tip instead of the landing gear.

Paul
XL fuselage
> It's a pretty sad situation when your CFI is afraid of slips. How
> else can you make a cross-wind landing?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Tony Bingelis' books/ STICK AND RUDDER--- Reply with quote

This is how my CFI taught me a few years ago...AND he was a retired large
transport plane pilot...

Randy
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