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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

I finished the center console today, and can't resist gloating just a 

little  .



http://deemsrv10.com/41-2consolefinished.htm



http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2041%20Upper%20Fwd%20Fuse%20Install/slides/DSC03024.html

Deems Davis # 406

Fuse/Finish

http://deemsrv10.com/

acs(at)acspropeller.com.a
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Hey Deems,

That is one mighty console effort. Well Done!

Did you choose the Lancair panel specifically to install the OP gear?

John #315 do not archive



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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:35 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Hi Deems,

  

 Your console and your panel look fantastic!! I wish  I had your talent for fabricating things.

  

 Wayne Edgerton 40336

  

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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Very nice!



Bob #40105

Firewall fwd and paint prep



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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Sort of, I saw a pic of the panel on Henkejen's kitlog site, e-mailed 

him to find out where he got it, then called Aerotronics, where I talked 

to Gary Wirrell, who offered to do a graphic layout to see if it would 

fit, (I think he was aiming at selling me more than just the panel), 

when he e-mailed back the layout that sort of sealed the deal.



Deems Davis # 406

Fuse

http://deemsrv10.com/



John Dunne wrote:



[quote]



Hey Deems,

That is one mighty console effort. Well Done!

Did you choose the Lancair panel specifically to install the OP gear?

John #315 do not archive



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Robin Marks

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 24
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:47 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Deems,

	Can you give us the rough pricing on the panel and center

console from Aerotronics? Less electronics... It helps me to start

choking early on the panel, motor & prop so that when it's time to write

the check I am already resigned to coughing up the $. Oh and BTY your

panel looks sharp.



Robin Marks

RV-4 Sold

RV-6A 300 Hours

RV-10 Full QB to be delivered this week.



 

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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:53 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Robin:



Our kit came with a perfectly serviceable panel made of aluminum, God's

favorite material, included in the price!  : )



TDT

40025

Painfully slowly working on wiring and firewall forward

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

The Aerotronics panel is $600 (just the fiberglass portion), the Center 

console is something that I made myself, I  have about $200-250 + into 

it for materials. Labor = priceless 



Deems Davis # 406

Fuse/Finishing

http://deemsrv10.com/



Robin Marks wrote:



[quote]



Deems,

	Can you give us the rough pricing on the panel and center

console from Aerotronics? Less electronics... It helps me to start

choking early on the panel, motor & prop so that when it's time to write

the check I am already resigned to coughing up the $. Oh and BTY your

panel looks sharp.



Robin Marks

RV-4 Sold

RV-6A 300 Hours

RV-10 Full QB to be delivered this week.



 

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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Deems,



Are you going with the throttle quadrant? And is there room to place switches and or maybe the trransponder in your console?



Rick S.

40185



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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

We made an AL center console from the panel down to the tunnel and it's

got room for an SL15, SL30, GX60, and a GTX330 transponder, so there

should be room for such things . . .



TDT

40025



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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Tim,



I've been thinking about doing something similar. The aluminum may be easier to finish off with the materials Abby supplys as well. Do you have any dimensions or pic's?



Rick S.

40185

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

I'm going w/ the vernier controls, I had the 'big plane feel' on 2 

Barons with the quadrants and while it made me feel more like an airline 

jockey, I always missed the precision of the vernier controls 

(especially on landings) that I had w/ the Bonanza, so I'm swallowing my 

ego and going back to the vernier controls. There's plenty of room for 

transponder,autopilot/switches or ? in the console, in fact the past 

couple of day's I've been noodling around the center stack arrangement, 

the radios and transponder are over 11" deep and not withstanding the 

mod that I already made to the fwd fuse ribs, will require a cutout in 

the sub-panel to allow for their depth. This has some influence over 

where the various components get placed in the stack, so I've been doing 

the 'cut-n-paste' routine with the various components to see which works 

best. I'm also reconsidering the 3 steam gages. John Cox pointed out 

that since they are 'back-up' instruments that they should not occupy 

such expensive panel real estate (ie. they are high and prominent). so 

I've been experimenting there also, additionally, I'm thinking about 

scraping the steam gages and putting in a Dynon -10A for back-up, for 

slightly more $'s I get  7 more instruments. Decisions, decisions, 

decisions.....



btw Rick, Thanks for the info re th CH sticks Kevin sent me a sample for 

a test fit, and it turns out that they do indeed interfere with the 

panel in the most fwd position, BUT, I like them sooooooo... much I'm 

looking for a welder that can cut and reweld the sticks so that the 

upright portion is about 20 degrees back, which should give me the 

clearance I need.

Deems Davis # 406

Fuse

http://deemsrv10.com/

Rick wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  



Deems,



Are you going with the throttle quadrant? And is there room to place switches and or maybe the trransponder in your console?



Rick S.

40185



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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Can't you just get a muffler shop that has a bender to flex the curve

for you? I too bought the Ch sticks, so I am waiting to see how you fix

it....

Dan 

40269 



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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:52 am Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Saw an inch or two off the top of the stick?  Or is then too short?



TDT

40025

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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Deems,



Make sure when you redo those sticks that you get enough aft stick if your going to move the grip back. If I recall on my flight, darn near full aft stick was needed on the flare so make sure "you" meaning your body doesn't stop that from happening. How much forward motion have you lost with the stick hitting the panel? Does it hit the elevator stops? Like you, my HS is not mounted yet to check but someone may be able to tell you how far forward from plumb the stick moves before hitting the stop.



Besides you will only need full down for the outside loop.  

Rick S.

40185

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

That's a good suggestion, I wonder if bending the curved portion of the 

stick might shorten the 'throw' on the aft end, because it would bump 

into the seat structure sooner? I'll have to do some eyeballing of that 

possibility.



THANKS



Deems Davis # 406

Fuse

http://deemsrv10.com/



Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:



[quote]



Can't you just get a muffler shop that has a bender to flex the curve

for you? I too bought the Ch sticks, so I am waiting to see how you fix

it....

Dan 

40269 



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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Another good suggestion, I think I'll remount the HS and an elevator to 

find out if this is a real or perceived problem. (The size of my gut is 

real, the amount of elevator throw is perceived. 



THANKS



Deems



Rick wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  



Deems,



Make sure when you redo those sticks that you get enough aft stick if your going to move the grip back. If I recall on my flight, darn near full aft stick was needed on the flare so make sure "you" meaning your body doesn't stop that from happening. How much forward motion have you lost with the stick hitting the panel? Does it hit the elevator stops? Like you, my HS is not mounted yet to check but someone may be able to tell you how far forward from plumb the stick moves before hitting the stop.



Besides you will only need full down for the outside loop.  

Rick S.

40185

Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

I'm sure this decision is too late for you Deems, as you made your

beautiful console, but, for the other list people....

I am finding that the quadrant control is very smooth and precise

and I can pinpoint my RPM and MP much closer using the quadrant

than I did with N220RV with the vernier for my transition training.

I know vernier is normally the way to go for precise control,

but I can definitely tell you that I had a much-less-than-perfect

experience with the vernier in that RV-10, but from day one

I've had great precision with mine.  So don't let the lack

of smooth and precise power/mix/prop control steer you away

from a quadrant....I found it to be the opposite.  I'm sure that

things such as where the linkage attaches to the lever, and

the quality of the control can have a huge factor in this, but

this quadrant is great....far better than the one that

was in my Beech.

If anyone has any doubts, just come on over to KLUM on the

weekend before OSH and I'll let you do a little flying

to see for yourself.  You just have to help me get the bugs

off it before I leave for the show. 

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 I'm going w/ the vernier controls, I had the 'big plane feel' on 2 

 Barons with the quadrants and while it made me feel more like an airline 

 jockey, I always missed the precision of the vernier controls 

 (especially on landings) that I had w/ the Bonanza, so I'm swallowing my 

 ego and going back to the vernier controls. There's plenty of room for 

 transponder,autopilot/switches or ? in the console, in fact the past 

 couple of day's I've been noodling around the center stack arrangement, 

 the radios and transponder are over 11" deep and not withstanding the 

 mod that I already made to the fwd fuse ribs, will require a cutout in 

 the sub-panel to allow for their depth. This has some influence over 

 where the various components get placed in the stack, so I've been doing 

 the 'cut-n-paste' routine with the various components to see which works 

 best. I'm also reconsidering the 3 steam gages. John Cox pointed out 

 that since they are 'back-up' instruments that they should not occupy 

 such expensive panel real estate (ie. they are high and prominent). so 

 I've been experimenting there also, additionally, I'm thinking about 

 scraping the steam gages and putting in a Dynon -10A for back-up, for 

 slightly more $'s I get  7 more instruments. Decisions, decisions, 

 decisions.....

 btw Rick, Thanks for the info re th CH sticks Kevin sent me a sample for 

 a test fit, and it turns out that they do indeed interfere with the 

 panel in the most fwd position, BUT, I like them sooooooo... much I'm 

 looking for a welder that can cut and reweld the sticks so that the 

 upright portion is about 20 degrees back, which should give me the 

 clearance I need.

 Deems Davis # 406

 Fuse

 http://deemsrv10.com/

 Rick wrote:

> 

>

> Deems,

>

> Are you going with the throttle quadrant? And is there room to place 

> switches and or maybe the trransponder in your console?

>

> Rick S.

> 40185

>

Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

   

Hey, shouldn't that thing be called a "trident", not a "quadrant"?  

   

Oops, maybe not:  

2. A machine part or other mechanical device that is shaped like a quarter circle.  

   

TDT  

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johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: Here I go again - console finished

Waiting for a specific time slot and I will pay for the AVGAS. You have

my schedule.



John - N49CX

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