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LHusky(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: Flanging tool

I believe I have found someone to make my die's.  They will be rather  expensive, but I need them and do not have the resource's to make them.  I  tried the plywood ones, but all I have is a small band saw.  I would need a  compass to make the circle and could not find one in this small "Little house on  the Prarie town".  I should have my dies in about a month I am told.   I guess it is time to go work on an engine now.  I will pick up all the  core parts from a Corvair guy next week.  I can have it cleaned locally,  but everything else I will send out.  

  

 I just wanted you guys to know that my dies will be available to any  future builder at no charge except shipping.  That is after I have all my  holes done!!  

  

 Larry Husky 

 Lakeview, OR 

 In limbo for now:)

n4546v(at)mindspring.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: Flanging tool

I bought the steel and machined the dies per the 701 plans, just because I  could.  the sizes are 65, 95 & 115 mm.  Does the 601 use the same  size dies?  I don't think so.  This is very old hat for experienced  listers, but for the new guys, if you wish to see these dies in action, please  email and I will forward a picture of them being used in my gravity powered  lightning hole press.  I would be happy to loan these out for reasonable  periods; months, not years.  They are not lightweight.

  

 Regards,

  

 Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas  do not archive

  

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   I believe I have found someone to make my die's.  They will be    rather expensive, but I need them and do not have the resource's to make    them.  I tried the plywood ones, but all I have is a small band    saw.  I would need a compass to make the circle and could not find one in    this small "Little house on the Prarie town".  I should have my dies in    about a month I am told.  I guess it is time to go work on an engine    now.  I will pick up all the core parts from a Corvair guy next    week.  I can have it cleaned locally, but everything else I will send    out.  

    

   I just wanted you guys to know that my dies will be available to any    future builder at no charge except shipping.  That is after I have all my    holes done!!  

    

   Larry Husky 

   Lakeview, OR 

   In limbo for now:)

admin(at)arachnidrobotics
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: Flanging tool

    Hey Larry, sorry for putting you on hold for so long.  My schedule has been nuts lately.  I'm spending all tomorrow evening on the punch and brake to finish the last parts of the fuse (sheet metal at least).  I finished the Nylon Pedal Bearings for us.  They actually look pretty darn good.  The Nylon is a dark blue (they call it black in the catalog), which looks a lot better than the neon green from Zenith.

    I knocked out a pair of flanging dies yesterday that actually did a really good job too.  I had to use a rubber mallet and tap around the perimeter to get a crisp edge, but it's not too hard to do.  If you've already ordered yours, let me know what the cost is and I'll split it with you if you want.  (I've kept you waiting long enough it's the least I can do!).  If not, you're more than welcome to the ones I did last night, and the steel ones are due back on the  17th.

    Two of the parts I'm punching and forming tomorrow are parts that you already have.  I screwed up (don't tell anybody you ever heard me say that!)  Part #s 6-W-4-1 and 6-W-4-2 turned out perfect, except for the fact that the large flanged hole is too far towards the top of the parts.  I programmed it 85 mm from the top of the part, rather than the holes above it.  No problem, except a control rod passes through it, and the hole interferes with the 1/4" spar cap as well.  $#%(at).  Anyway, they'll be done tomorrow.  

    I finished the spacers (6-W-4-5) for the center wing spar.  I just cut them from aluminum rod and drilled a hole in them.  We'll need to finish the edges a bit, but the thickness turned is good within .010".  

    So how goes everything else in the hanger?  Have you got your firewall rivited yet (except for the parts your waiting for!)   



LHusky(at)aol.com wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		       I believe I have found someone to make my die's.  They will be rather  expensive, but I need them and do not have the resource's to make them.  I  tried the plywood ones, but all I have is a small band saw.  I would need a  compass to make the circle and could not find one in this small "Little house on  the Prarie town".  I should have my dies in about a month I am told.   I guess it is time to go work on an engine now.  I will pick up all the  core parts from a Corvair guy next week.  I can have it cleaned locally,  but everything else I will send out.  

   

 I just wanted you guys to know that my dies will be available to any  future builder at no charge except shipping.  That is after I have all my  holes done!!  

  

 Larry Husky 

 Lakeview, OR 

 In limbo for now:)

admin(at)arachnidrobotics
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: Flanging tool

Ok, that last one was meant for Larry.  Sorry list.  (Seems like a lot of us are doing that lately.  lol)



LHusky(at)aol.com wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		       I believe I have found someone to make my die's.  They will be rather  expensive, but I need them and do not have the resource's to make them.  I  tried the plywood ones, but all I have is a small band saw.  I would need a  compass to make the circle and could not find one in this small "Little house on  the Prarie town".  I should have my dies in about a month I am told.   I guess it is time to go work on an engine now.  I will pick up all the  core parts from a Corvair  guy next week.  I can have it cleaned locally,  but everything else I will send out.  

  

 I just wanted you guys to know that my dies will be available to any  future builder at no charge except shipping.  That is after I have all my  holes done!!  

  

 Larry Husky 

 Lakeview, OR 

 In limbo for now:)

ch601xl(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: Flanging tool

Randy, I would like the pictures. Thanks



On 7/5/06, Randy L. Thwing <n4546v(at)mindspring.com (n4546v(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		         I bought the steel and machined the dies per the 701 plans, just because I  could.  the sizes are 65, 95 & 115 mm.  Does the 601 use the same  size dies?  I don't think so.  This is very old hat for experienced  listers, but for the new guys, if you wish to see these dies in action, please  email and I will forward a picture of them being used in my gravity powered  lightning hole press.  I would be happy to loan these out for reasonable  periods; months, not years.  They are not lightweight.

  

 Regards,



  

 Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas  do not archive



  

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   I believe I have found someone to make my die's.  They will be    rather expensive, but I need them and do not have the resource's to make    them.  I tried the plywood ones, but all I have is a small band    saw.  I would need a compass to make the circle and could not find one in    this small "Little house on the Prarie town".  I should have my dies in    about a month I am told.  I guess it is time to go work on an engine    now.  I will pick up all the core parts from a Corvair guy next    week.  I can have it cleaned locally, but everything else I will send    out.  

    

   I just wanted you guys to know that my dies will be available to any    future builder at no charge except shipping.  That is after I have all my    holes done!!  

    

   Larry Husky 

   Lakeview, OR 

   In limbo for now:)

   

  	




  

	


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fly1m1

http://ch-601xl.com

Gbrac80(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: Flanging tool

Larry,

  

 Hole flanging die:  Make sure that the die has a generous radius where  the metal is formed around, or the parts WILL come out cracked.

  

 I use a simple, wooden, 2x4 frame and a hydraulic bottle jack with my die  set.  Perfection each and every time.

  

 I apply lots of force (easy to do with hydraulics) to ensure complete  forming of the flange.  Too little force and the part distorts from  incomplete forming.  I doubt too much force is possible, as the metal  first properly forms in the die, then resists further forces in simple  compression.  The part comes out with a perfectly formed flanged hole and  is otherwise absolutely flat.

  

 Rgds,

  

 Mike.

randy(at)shadycreekoutlaw
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:58 am Post subject: Flanging tool

My cousin made a set of flanging dies for he and I to use.  He made a  "T Handle" to squeeze the 2 halves together...  These work very well  too.  Attached are 2 pics of my dies.

  

 Thanks,

  

 Randy

 XL Wings - Plans Only

 http://www.n344rb.com

  

  

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ggower_99(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: Flanging tool

Hello Tom,

   

  This is great,  not only that the list is full of help and advise betwen us,  but also that there is some team work, sorry that some of us are international,  customs laws sometimes makes sharing parts or materials  expensive and impractical.

   

  Keep the good work and share it will all of us.

   

  Saludos

  Gary Gower

  Flying from Chapala, Mexico  (701)

  Building a 601 XL.



Tom and Bren Henderson <admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com> wrote:

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		  Ok, that last one was meant for Larry.  Sorry list.  (Seems like a lot of us are doing that lately.  lol)



LHusky(at)aol.com wrote:   	  Quote: 	
		      I believe I have found someone to make my die's.  They will be rather expensive, but I need them and do not have the resource's to make them.  I tried the plywood ones, but all I have is a small band saw.  I would need a compass to make the circle and could not find one in this small "Little house on the Prarie town".  I should have my dies in about a month I am told.  I guess it is time to go work on an engine now.  I will pick up all the core parts from a Corvair guy next week.  I can have it cleaned locally, but everything else I will send out.  

   

  I just wanted you guys to know that my dies will be available to any future builder at no charge except shipping.  That is after I have all my holes done!!  

   

  Larry Husky  

  Lakeview, OR 

  In limbo for now:)

   

	


	




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paulrod36(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: Flanging tool

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  COMPASSS? We don' need no esteenkin' compass!  You might try this:  Drive a small brad at your selected center point. The loop a piece of thin wire  around it, measure out the desired distance, and then wrap the wire around the  tip of a pencil. As the French say, viiiola. Perfect circle. Give it a try, you  may save a few bucks.

  

 Paul Rodriguez

 601XL/Corvair

 Working on the canopy

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grs-pms(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: Flanging tool

Or space a couple of #40 holes at the desired radius in a  strip of scrap aluminum.  Pin in one, pencil in the other and rotate.   Works every time.

  

 George

  

 Do not archive

  

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daberti(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: Flanging tool

Easier yet use a scrap piece of aluminum  with 2 holes at the spacing you need place a rivet (not pulled) at the center  and put the pencil or marker (better) in the other then swing your arc.   Mark it's size and save for later use!

  

 Dave

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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->      COMPASSS? We don' need no esteenkin' compass!  You might try this:    Drive a small brad at your selected center point. The loop a piece of thin    wire around it, measure out the desired distance, and then wrap the wire    around the tip of a pencil. As the French say, viiiola. Perfect circle. Give    it a try, you may save a few bucks.

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