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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:47 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

With less than 2 weeks until OSH, I need to put out another

post regarding a few topics:



* RV-10 Builder List

* RV-10's Flying to OSH

* RV-10 Parking / Camping at OSH



BUILDERS LIST

-------------

First, regarding the builder list.  I'm both impressed with

the response, but also surprised.  I'm impressed because

we got over 100 responses and people added on to the builder

list.  Some from last year never responded with their info.

It was a bit of work, but the list has already made it possible

for a couple people to meet up who were in the same area.

I'm kind of surprised, because with 600+ kits sold, and only

getting just over 100 replies, that means that the huge

majority is unknown or at least non-responsive or possibly

not even watching any online groups.  If the same ratio of

responders were to go to OSH in the remaining 500 builders,

we're going to have over 480 RV-10 builder at OSH this year!!

I'm also surprised that out of 35+ RV-10's flying, we only

have 7 for sure, and 9 possible listed as flying to OSH

on the list.   Here I don't think we'll see 5X that number

show, but if the ratio holds true, we may see at least

a fair share of the 35.



If you haven't put your name on the list, you can sign up

here.  Remember that you can be on the builders list even

if you aren't going to OSH:

http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html



Don't forget if you're going to OSH to list if you're bringing

kids.  I'm really hoping we can have some gatherings of

families if it works out.



Once you're on the list, you'll get an access code to the

complete list.  To see a list without the contact info,

look here:  http://www.myrv10.com/osh2/index.html

That one may be less up to date than the full list.



I think the builders who are on the list would tell you that

there are nice things about being part of the community.

FLYING TO OSH

-------------

If you're flying your completed RV-10 to OSH, please try

to put your name on the list....for a couple good reasons.



A) So the other builders can get pumped up a bit

B) Because the EAA really wants/needs to know our numbers for

space reasons. (see below)



If you're flying from a Westward direction, or even if

you want to join in and are coming from the East or South,

I'd like to invite you to meet me at KLUM for the flight

over.  I am currently planning to fly in Monday a.m., but

if the overwhelming majority wanted to go Sunday night,

I might be swayed.  Fuel is currently running $3.609 on

our field, so it's a *more* economical fuel stop.

PARKING/CAMPING at OSH

----------------------

After some initial confusion over who was in control of parking

our planes, I got in contact with Jeff Point, who has it all

figured out.   He's requesting as complete and accurate of

a -10 count as we can get, and whether they will be camping or

parking.  They are making some larger sized spaces available for

our larger planes and they really need to know what to allow.

I will use the RV-10 builders list to give him the final

headcount that I come up with, and he's hoping to use that, plus

some good estimation skills to allow enough space.  If you're

bringing a -10, it will help "guarantee" (there is no such thing)

that an attempt at space is left.  The lots we park and camp in

are notoriously tight on space.



Here is a note from Jeff:

---

"We finally got the RV-10 arrangements figured out.  We were up

at Oshkosh last week taking measurements etc for how we are going

to lay out the field this year.  It's going to be differenet from

last year in several respects.



The RV-10 campers will be as previously discussed, in their own row

on the east end of the Homebuilt camping area.  Those arrangements

haven't changed from what you and Kreth worked out.  Just as a

reminder, anyone who parks in the camping area will be assessed the

$18/ day camping fee, whether they pitch a tent or not.  Anyone

parked in this area but not camping will be asked to park elsewhere.

This real estate is just to scarce, in the camping area.



The RV-10 parking area (non-camping) will not be adjacent to the

campers.  It will be where it was last year, at the east end of the

RV parking area, just west of the north commercial displays (where

Van's tent it.)  RV-10ers who are not camping should display the

HBP sign to all the ornage vests that they see.  The welcome

wagon service can give rides from the parking areas to Camp

Scholler, the bus terminal, etc. to anyone who is parking and

staying elsewhere.



Any other questions feel free to contact me.  I trust that you'll

get this info out to the RV-10 community.



Jeff"

---



So there you have it folks, the requests are out there.  I may

post one more reminder next week, but it's so close to OSH now

that my mind is wandering off daydreaming a lot....so I

may miss that one. 



-- 

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

Tim, Last year we had set 10:00 am each day as a time where any of the  

-10 guys could get together, we met in front of Van's tent. I was able 

to meet several of the group at that gathering, and ask questions and 

gather advice. Anybody want to repeat this this year? Perhaps we could 

meet in front of your plane? Also Cleveland Tool (Mike are you there?) 

had an ice cream social one evening at their site, which was another 

good group opportunity.



Deems Davis # 406

Fuse

http://deemsrv10.com/

Tim Olson wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 With less than 2 weeks until OSH, I need to put out another

 post regarding a few topics:



 * RV-10 Builder List

 * RV-10's Flying to OSH

 * RV-10 Parking / Camping at OSH



 BUILDERS LIST

 -------------

 First, regarding the builder list.  I'm both impressed with

 the response, but also surprised.  I'm impressed because

 we got over 100 responses and people added on to the builder

 list.  Some from last year never responded with their info.

 It was a bit of work, but the list has already made it possible

 for a couple people to meet up who were in the same area.

 I'm kind of surprised, because with 600+ kits sold, and only

 getting just over 100 replies, that means that the huge

 majority is unknown or at least non-responsive or possibly

 not even watching any online groups.  If the same ratio of

 responders were to go to OSH in the remaining 500 builders,

 we're going to have over 480 RV-10 builder at OSH this year!!

 I'm also surprised that out of 35+ RV-10's flying, we only

 have 7 for sure, and 9 possible listed as flying to OSH

 on the list.   Here I don't think we'll see 5X that number

 show, but if the ratio holds true, we may see at least

 a fair share of the 35.



 If you haven't put your name on the list, you can sign up

 here.  Remember that you can be on the builders list even

 if you aren't going to OSH:

 http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html



 Don't forget if you're going to OSH to list if you're bringing

 kids.  I'm really hoping we can have some gatherings of

 families if it works out.



 Once you're on the list, you'll get an access code to the

 complete list.  To see a list without the contact info,

 look here:  http://www.myrv10.com/osh2/index.html

 That one may be less up to date than the full list.



 I think the builders who are on the list would tell you that

 there are nice things about being part of the community.

 FLYING TO OSH

 -------------

 If you're flying your completed RV-10 to OSH, please try

 to put your name on the list....for a couple good reasons.



 A) So the other builders can get pumped up a bit

 B) Because the EAA really wants/needs to know our numbers for

 space reasons. (see below)



 If you're flying from a Westward direction, or even if

 you want to join in and are coming from the East or South,

 I'd like to invite you to meet me at KLUM for the flight

 over.  I am currently planning to fly in Monday a.m., but

 if the overwhelming majority wanted to go Sunday night,

 I might be swayed.  Fuel is currently running $3.609 on

 our field, so it's a *more* economical fuel stop.

 PARKING/CAMPING at OSH

 ----------------------

 After some initial confusion over who was in control of parking

 our planes, I got in contact with Jeff Point, who has it all

 figured out.   He's requesting as complete and accurate of

 a -10 count as we can get, and whether they will be camping or

 parking.  They are making some larger sized spaces available for

 our larger planes and they really need to know what to allow.

 I will use the RV-10 builders list to give him the final

 headcount that I come up with, and he's hoping to use that, plus

 some good estimation skills to allow enough space.  If you're

 bringing a -10, it will help "guarantee" (there is no such thing)

 that an attempt at space is left.  The lots we park and camp in

 are notoriously tight on space.



 Here is a note from Jeff:

 ---

 "We finally got the RV-10 arrangements figured out.  We were up

 at Oshkosh last week taking measurements etc for how we are going

 to lay out the field this year.  It's going to be differenet from

 last year in several respects.



 The RV-10 campers will be as previously discussed, in their own row

 on the east end of the Homebuilt camping area.  Those arrangements

 haven't changed from what you and Kreth worked out.  Just as a

 reminder, anyone who parks in the camping area will be assessed the

 $18/ day camping fee, whether they pitch a tent or not.  Anyone

 parked in this area but not camping will be asked to park elsewhere.

 This real estate is just to scarce, in the camping area.



 The RV-10 parking area (non-camping) will not be adjacent to the

 campers.  It will be where it was last year, at the east end of the

 RV parking area, just west of the north commercial displays (where

 Van's tent it.)  RV-10ers who are not camping should display the

 HBP sign to all the ornage vests that they see.  The welcome

 wagon service can give rides from the parking areas to Camp

 Scholler, the bus terminal, etc. to anyone who is parking and

 staying elsewhere.



 Any other questions feel free to contact me.  I trust that you'll

 get this info out to the RV-10 community.



 Jeff"

 ---



 So there you have it folks, the requests are out there.  I may

 post one more reminder next week, but it's so close to OSH now

 that my mind is wandering off daydreaming a lot....so I

 may miss that one.

Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

I think that's been a good idea in past years.  If people

think 10am is good, then we can do that.  Late enough that

people can get in the gates or fly in, early enough to not

waste a day.  We could meet at Van's tent, or my plane.

I don't care.  I plan to have a blue sun canopy next to

my plane so I can hang out.  I won't probably be there

Wednesday, so that would mess up that spot for

one day.  If we meet at Van's booth, lets meet on the road

out front so we don't overcrowd their booth. 

Let's have a quick online frenzy of ideas and settle on

a good spot and some good activities.  Any vendors offering

some great activities, post them so we know where we can

get free food.    Heck, even a bottle of water would be

good.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Deems Davis wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Tim, Last year we had set 10:00 am each day as a time where any of the  

 -10 guys could get together, we met in front of Van's tent. I was able 

 to meet several of the group at that gathering, and ask questions and 

 gather advice. Anybody want to repeat this this year? Perhaps we could 

 meet in front of your plane? Also Cleveland Tool (Mike are you there?) 

 had an ice cream social one evening at their site, which was another 

 good group opportunity.

 

 Deems Davis # 406

 Fuse

 http://deemsrv10.com/

 

 

 Tim Olson wrote:

 

> 

>

> With less than 2 weeks until OSH, I need to put out another

> post regarding a few topics:

>

> * RV-10 Builder List

> * RV-10's Flying to OSH

> * RV-10 Parking / Camping at OSH

>

> BUILDERS LIST

> -------------

> First, regarding the builder list.  I'm both impressed with

> the response, but also surprised.  I'm impressed because

> we got over 100 responses and people added on to the builder

> list.  Some from last year never responded with their info.

> It was a bit of work, but the list has already made it possible

> for a couple people to meet up who were in the same area.

> I'm kind of surprised, because with 600+ kits sold, and only

> getting just over 100 replies, that means that the huge

> majority is unknown or at least non-responsive or possibly

> not even watching any online groups.  If the same ratio of

> responders were to go to OSH in the remaining 500 builders,

> we're going to have over 480 RV-10 builder at OSH this year!!

> I'm also surprised that out of 35+ RV-10's flying, we only

> have 7 for sure, and 9 possible listed as flying to OSH

> on the list.   Here I don't think we'll see 5X that number

> show, but if the ratio holds true, we may see at least

> a fair share of the 35.

>

> If you haven't put your name on the list, you can sign up

> here.  Remember that you can be on the builders list even

> if you aren't going to OSH:

> http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html

>

> Don't forget if you're going to OSH to list if you're bringing

> kids.  I'm really hoping we can have some gatherings of

> families if it works out.

>

> Once you're on the list, you'll get an access code to the

> complete list.  To see a list without the contact info,

> look here:  http://www.myrv10.com/osh2/index.html

> That one may be less up to date than the full list.

>

> I think the builders who are on the list would tell you that

> there are nice things about being part of the community.

> FLYING TO OSH

> -------------

> If you're flying your completed RV-10 to OSH, please try

> to put your name on the list....for a couple good reasons.

>

> A) So the other builders can get pumped up a bit

> B) Because the EAA really wants/needs to know our numbers for

> space reasons. (see below)

>

> If you're flying from a Westward direction, or even if

> you want to join in and are coming from the East or South,

> I'd like to invite you to meet me at KLUM for the flight

> over.  I am currently planning to fly in Monday a.m., but

> if the overwhelming majority wanted to go Sunday night,

> I might be swayed.  Fuel is currently running $3.609 on

> our field, so it's a *more* economical fuel stop.

> PARKING/CAMPING at OSH

> ----------------------

> After some initial confusion over who was in control of parking

> our planes, I got in contact with Jeff Point, who has it all

> figured out.   He's requesting as complete and accurate of

> a -10 count as we can get, and whether they will be camping or

> parking.  They are making some larger sized spaces available for

> our larger planes and they really need to know what to allow.

> I will use the RV-10 builders list to give him the final

> headcount that I come up with, and he's hoping to use that, plus

> some good estimation skills to allow enough space.  If you're

> bringing a -10, it will help "guarantee" (there is no such thing)

> that an attempt at space is left.  The lots we park and camp in

> are notoriously tight on space.

>

> Here is a note from Jeff:

> ---

> "We finally got the RV-10 arrangements figured out.  We were up

> at Oshkosh last week taking measurements etc for how we are going

> to lay out the field this year.  It's going to be differenet from

> last year in several respects.

>

> The RV-10 campers will be as previously discussed, in their own row

> on the east end of the Homebuilt camping area.  Those arrangements

> haven't changed from what you and Kreth worked out.  Just as a

> reminder, anyone who parks in the camping area will be assessed the

> $18/ day camping fee, whether they pitch a tent or not.  Anyone

> parked in this area but not camping will be asked to park elsewhere.

> This real estate is just to scarce, in the camping area.

>

> The RV-10 parking area (non-camping) will not be adjacent to the

> campers.  It will be where it was last year, at the east end of the

> RV parking area, just west of the north commercial displays (where

> Van's tent it.)  RV-10ers who are not camping should display the

> HBP sign to all the ornage vests that they see.  The welcome

> wagon service can give rides from the parking areas to Camp

> Scholler, the bus terminal, etc. to anyone who is parking and

> staying elsewhere.

>

> Any other questions feel free to contact me.  I trust that you'll

> get this info out to the RV-10 community.

>

> Jeff"

> ---

>

> So there you have it folks, the requests are out there.  I may

> post one more reminder next week, but it's so close to OSH now

> that my mind is wandering off daydreaming a lot....so I

> may miss that one. 

>

 

 

 

 

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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

I second the thought about a daily meeting time/place.  It was very

convenient way to sync up.  It's not necessary for everybody to meet

everyday, but nice to have a prearranged meeting.



Bob #40105



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GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

Deems, Tim et al.

  

 I'd love to meet with you folks during KOSH, I'm going there with my son  and am still in the lurking stage...the J 5 is going very slowly...want to get  this down the road before jumping into the 10...hard to have two projects!   

  

 Patrick Scott

 610-745-6057

johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

Tim, thanks for the continueing hard work. First, when talking to Jeff

Point get to an agreement that unannounced RV-10 arrivals are not going

to be corralled with those who showed the courtesy of posting in

advance. Those in advance get better placement and the others go "At

Large". As a former producer of Air Shows the only thing more disgusting

are the guys who sneak in, say they are with a show to get free fuel and

bennies (never to have announced and never participating). They should

be in the general North 40 parking masses and learn the value of the

school bus shuttle. There is plenty of room for every flying RV-10 but

they should at least line up parking in advance.



I am ready to eat my words, but I still feel strongly that 50 will be

flying by OSH and 20 will be on the ground there.  It is tragic that so

many remain lurkers or felt there was little value in being part of the

Matronics Advantage. 



Now if you can just work on the Wisconsin heat, humidity and

thundercloud activity too.



John Cox



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johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

I have a dance card filled with 42 seminar options and still the desire

to see the exhibit booths, then see friends (Not in that order). Would

be happy to share where I want to be and when with anyone. 



I would encourage multiple meet times like 10AM, 12PM, 2PM and 4PM

everyday to allow wider flexibility and participation.  Just an idea.

The VANS booth is a great common location.



John Cox

Do not Archive

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

I think dual slots is a good idea.  Maybe 10 and 2 at Van's booth?  If

Tim is going to be absent at least one day, and his parking position is

likely to change, I think Van's is best for consistency.  Plus Tim

doesn't have to worry about it if something comes up and he can't make

it on a day or something.



Michael



Do not archive



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

I'll see if I can whip up some good T-Storms so you can see how

well the WSI works. 



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

John W. Cox wrote:

[quote] 

 

 Tim, thanks for the continueing hard work. First, when talking to Jeff

 Point get to an agreement that unannounced RV-10 arrivals are not going

 to be corralled with those who showed the courtesy of posting in

 advance. Those in advance get better placement and the others go "At

 Large". As a former producer of Air Shows the only thing more disgusting

 are the guys who sneak in, say they are with a show to get free fuel and

 bennies (never to have announced and never participating). They should

 be in the general North 40 parking masses and learn the value of the

 school bus shuttle. There is plenty of room for every flying RV-10 but

 they should at least line up parking in advance.

 

 I am ready to eat my words, but I still feel strongly that 50 will be

 flying by OSH and 20 will be on the ground there.  It is tragic that so

 many remain lurkers or felt there was little value in being part of the

 Matronics Advantage. 

 

 Now if you can just work on the Wisconsin heat, humidity and

 thundercloud activity too.

 

 John Cox

 

 --

Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

Geesh, I remember Oshkosh 2003, when the live weather datalink in our booth showed just bands of red and yellow all of the way across Wisconsin.  



Unfortunately, we were flying the rental Thunder Skyhawk, so our datalink consisted of flying 100 miles or so, landing, dashing in to the weather computer, then dashing back to the plane if our path looked good.  Then that same weather from WI chased us all the way across New York.  Foggy every morning, then the fog would burn off just in time for the thunder-boomers to start popping up.  FUN!



TDT

do not archive

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johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

Clearly you missed the Microburst that hit last year on Monday Night

around 7:50PM.



John 



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jesse(at)itecusa.org
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

Who do we talk to to arrange for parking in advance?  We will be planning to

arrive on Sunday, the day before the show starts, and will be there all week

(in N415EC).



Do not archive.



Jesse Saint

I-TEC, Inc.

jesse(at)itecusa.org

www.itecusa.org

W: 352-465-4545

C: 352-427-0285



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

There isn't really anyone that needs to talk to all of the

planes flying in....but they just want a fair headcount of

RV-10's....and if they will be in HBC or HBP.  They want to

reserve the room.  I started to try to get coordinated,

same-area group reservations, but after many go-arounds it

turned out to not be possible.....but now they kind of

look to me to give them a headcount.  Not that I'm qualified, but

the OSH list at least makes it easier.  The problem is,

there's only a fraction of the flying RV-10's on the list.



Currently, they seem to think that we'll have more CAMPING

rv-10's than parking. This isn't what I'm hearing from the

people who did reply to me though.....so hopefully we'll

get some better numbers so they can get proper info, lest they

mis-allocate the space.



Are you bringing both -10's or just the one then?

HBC or HBP?



Tim

Jesse Saint wrote:

[quote] 

 

 Who do we talk to to arrange for parking in advance?  We will be planning to

 arrive on Sunday, the day before the show starts, and will be there all week

 (in N415EC).

 

 Do not archive.

 

 Jesse Saint

 I-TEC, Inc.

 jesse(at)itecusa.org

 www.itecusa.org

 W: 352-465-4545

 C: 352-427-0285

 

 --

jesse(at)itecusa.org
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

It looks like it will just be the one this time.  Anybody interested in

coming to FL and flying the other one up?  So, do you have me on the list

for parking?  We won't be camping.



Do not archive.



Jesse Saint

I-TEC, Inc.

jesse(at)itecusa.org

www.itecusa.org

W: 352-465-4545

C: 352-427-0285



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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Cam

Hand waving frantically from the background.  I'll fly it up.  



Bob K



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