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Doug Gray

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 112
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

Folks,

I have purchased the gussets from Vans to re-enforce the landing gear

socket of my old style RV-6 mount to prevent the cracking some have

experienced. Parts are WD-672A-R and WD-672-L.



My plan is to have these welded to the mount but I do not have a clear

direction how they are positioned.  Can someone point me to a clear

photograph of the lower end of a gear leg socket. I believe these are

fitted to all RV-6 and -7 mounts currently being shipped.



Vans sent me two photos but they are not clear enough to pass to the

welder.



Thanks,

Doug Gray

Sydney, Australia

Doug Gray

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 112
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

Would someone be kind enough to send me a photo of the re-enforcement

around the lower end of the gear leg socket on a recent engine mount.



I'm beginning to wonder if this list has been abandoned by actual RV

builders.



Doug



On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:47 +1000, Doug Gray wrote:

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 Folks,

 I have purchased the gussets from Vans to re-enforce the landing gear

 socket of my old style RV-6 mount to prevent the cracking some have

 experienced. Parts are WD-672A-R and WD-672-L.

 

 My plan is to have these welded to the mount but I do not have a clear

 direction how they are positioned.  Can someone point me to a clear

 photograph of the lower end of a gear leg socket. I believe these are

 fitted to all RV-6 and -7 mounts currently being shipped.

 

 Vans sent me two photos but they are not clear enough to pass to the

 welder.

 

 Thanks,

 Doug Gray

 Sydney, Australia

dbris200(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:45 am Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

Maybe it's because no one wants to admit that they don't know what you're talking about. My kit was a '96 and I've never heard of this problem, of course with my memory, that doesn't mean much! But I couldn't find any mention of it in the archives or on Van's website. I also looked at an index of early 90's RVators and found nothing, so I wouldn't know just what to take a picture of.

 Maybe you could give us a little more information, like the year and some reference to information on the problem?

 

 Dave B.   -6 So Cal

 

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Would someone be kind enough to send me a photo of the re-enforcement

around the lower end of the gear leg socket on a recent engine mount.



I'm beginning to wonder if this list has been abandoned by actual RV

builders.



Doug



On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:47 +1000, Doug Gray wrote:

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		  --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233(at)bigpond.net.au> (dgra1233(at)bigpond.net.au)



Folks,

I have purchased the gussets from Vans to re-enforce the landing gear

socket of my old style RV-6 mount to prevent the cracking some have

experienced. Parts are WD-672A-R and WD-672-L.



My plan is to have these welded to the mount but I do not have a clear

direction how they are positioned.  Can someone point me to a clear

photograph of the lower end of a gear leg socket. I believe these are

fitted to all RV-6 and -7 mounts currently being shipped.



Vans sent me two photos but they are not clear enough to pass to the

welder.



Thanks,

Doug Gray

Sydney, Australia

jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

My 1989 mount does ot have any reenforcement and I have not heard of a 

problem with -6 mounts cracking but like Dave my memory may have

gone south with everything else. 

Jerry



D.Bristol wrote:



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		   Maybe it's because no one wants to admit that they don't know what 

 you're talking about. My kit was a '96 and I've never heard of this 

 problem, of course with my memory, that doesn't mean much! But I 

 couldn't find any mention of it in the archives or on Van's website. I 

 also looked at an index of early 90's RVators and found nothing, so I 

 wouldn't know just what to take a picture of.

 Maybe you could give us a little more information, like the year and 

 some reference to information on the problem?



 Dave B.   -6 So Cal



 do not archive



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>>Folks,

>>I have purchased the gussets from Vans to re-enforce the landing gear

>>socket of my old style RV-6 mount to prevent the cracking some have

>>experienced. Parts are WD-672A-R and WD-672-L.

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>>My plan is to have these welded to the mount but I do not have a clear

>>direction how they are positioned.  Can someone point me to a clear

>>photograph of the lower end of a gear leg socket. I believe these are

>>fitted to all RV-6 and -7 mounts currently being shipped.

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>>Vans sent me two photos but they are not clear enough to pass to the

>>welder.

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>>Thanks,

>>Doug Gray

>>Sydney, Australia

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shirleyh

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Perth, Western Australia

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

Doug, just to assure you that you are not going crazy - I know exactly what you are referring to. I have the old mount and will be checking regularly for cracks.  I know of another RV6 that did crack the mount and had to weld on the gussets.  Unfortunately I don't have a photo to help you. If I can contact that owner in the near future I'll ask him for more detail.



Cheers



Shirley Harding

RV6 VH ASF - 23 hrs

Perth Western Australia

Doug Gray

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 112
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

Hi Shirley,



Thanks. I have spoken to a number of RV-6 owners around our patch who

are keeping watch on cracks developing in this area.  I thought I'd head

off the problem before mounting the engine.



The positioning of the patches is obvious once the mount was off the

fuselage. Planning to get them welded tomorrow. 



Doug

Sydney



On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 01:21 -0700, shirleyh wrote:

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 Doug, just to assure you that you are not going crazy - I know exactly what you are referring to. I have the old mount and will be checking regularly for cracks.  I know of another RV6 that did crack the mount and had to weld on the gussets.  Unfortunately I don't have a photo to help you. If I can contact that owner in the near future I'll ask him for more detail.

 

 Cheers

 

 Shirley Harding

 RV6 VH ASF - 23 hrs

 Perth Western Australia

 

 

 

 

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bertrv6(at)highstream.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

Quoting Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)verizon.net>:



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 My 1989 mount does ot have any reenforcement and I have not heard of a

 problem with -6 mounts cracking but like Dave my memory may have

 gone south with everything else. 

 Jerry



 D.Bristol wrote:



 > Maybe it's because no one wants to admit that they don't know what

 > you're talking about. My kit was a '96 and I've never heard of this

 > problem, of course with my memory, that doesn't mean much! But I

 > couldn't find any mention of it in the archives or on Van's website. I

 > also looked at an index of early 90's RVators and found nothing, so I

 > wouldn't know just what to take a picture of.

 > Maybe you could give us a little more information, like the year and

 > some reference to information on the problem?

 >

 > Dave B.   -6 So Cal

 >

 > do not archive

 >

 > Doug Gray wrote:

 >

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 >>Would someone be kind enough to send me a photo of the re-enforcement

 >>around the lower end of the gear leg socket on a recent engine mount.

 >>

 >>I'm beginning to wonder if this list has been abandoned by actual RV

 >>builders.

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 >>Doug

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 >>On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 00:47 +1000, Doug Gray wrote:

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 >>>Folks,

 >>>I have purchased the gussets from Vans to re-enforce the landing gear

 >>>socket of my old style RV-6 mount to prevent the cracking some have

 >>>experienced. Parts are WD-672A-R and WD-672-L.

 >>>

 >>>My plan is to have these welded to the mount but I do not have a clear

 >>>direction how they are positioned.  Can someone point me to a clear

 >>>photograph of the lower end of a gear leg socket. I believe these are

 >>>fitted to all RV-6 and -7 mounts currently being shipped.

 >>>

 >>>Vans sent me two photos but they are not clear enough to pass to the

 >>>welder.

 >>>

 >>>Thanks,

 >>>Doug Gray

 >>>Sydney, Australia

 >>>

 >>>

 >>>  Doug:


	


Like any one else, I am pussled by you commnents.  I have an rv6a, of yr.

99 or so... of course, I bought the Engine mount from Vans, with everything

else...If you are talking about, that you built, or are building your own

Engine mount, that is a different thing...



The engine mount, that comes with the kit from Vans, is ready to install.



Nothing else has to be added, welded, it comes painted,,,rust proffed...



Would like to know what are you talking about...OH my Engine es a Lycoming

0320ed in case...

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Doug Gray

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 112
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

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 Like any one else, I am puzzled by you comments.  I have an rv6a, of yr.

 99 or so... of course, I bought the Engine mount from Vans, with everything

 else...If you are talking about, that you built, or are building your own

 Engine mount, that is a different thing...

 

 The engine mount, that comes with the kit from Vans, is ready to install.

 

 Nothing else has to be added, welded, it comes painted,,,rust proofed...

 

 Would like to know what are you talking about...OH my Engine es a Lycoming

 0320ed in case...

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 > >>>bert

 do not archive

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Problem relates only to the RV-6.  Cracking has been discovered by

various owners in Aust. and NZ at the lower end of the the gear sockets

in earlier mounts (standard) supplied by Vans. Later supplied mounts

have an additional gusset welded around the gear socket.  This gusset is

present on RV-7 mounts.



I had wrongly assumed the problem was seen in the US as well.



Doug

don.wentz(at)intel.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

The ONE that I know about, seemed isolated to a taildragger that spent a

lot of time on bumpy unpaved runways.

RVs that don't fly as much and don't get hard landings and stay on

pavement aren't likely to experience it.

My RV-6 hasn't, with an engine mount from 1993 and 1000 hrs.

Dw

 



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khorton01(at)rogers.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: Gear Socket Gusset for an RV-6 engine mount

A local RV-6, operated from a mix of hard surface and grass strips,  

has had cracks around the gear sockets.  The mount has been welded  

twice, and now it looks like it is cracking again.



Kevin Horton

Ottawa, Canada



On 26 Jul 2006, at 14:13, Wentz, Don wrote:



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 The ONE that I know about, seemed isolated to a taildragger that  

 spent a

 lot of time on bumpy unpaved runways.

 RVs that don't fly as much and don't get hard landings and stay on

 pavement aren't likely to experience it.

 My RV-6 hasn't, with an engine mount from 1993 and 1000 hrs.

 Dw

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