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mgraves(at)usmo.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

runruny(at)aol.com



Or was it ronrony(at)aol.com



I hope spamers glean this address,  and send loads of viruses and spy bots 

to him......



In fact I URGE everyone with dial up to send him a virus........



He sent ANOTHER 13MB file...........a little more aggressive behavior from 

everyone,   MIGHT help him understand..........  a piece of well seasoned 

hickory on a mules head gets there attention every time..........



I am sure he is a nice guy,  He and several others just don't know what 

they are doing when it comes to uploading images.



Monty Graves



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Maybe also ban passive aggressive behaviour?



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gboothe(at)calply.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

Monty,

I'm pretty much an internet neophyte, so I'm a little confused by your

vitriol. If you are referring to "runruny(at)..." I looked up his last two

posts out of curiosity. One dated 7/20 has a 1MB attachment (not a 13MB),

and the previous one is minuscule.

Yes, maybe 1MB is too large for some, but a better solution to beating him

with a hickory stick may be to tell him how to downsize his images. After

all, I don't think being an internet wiz, or a computer guru, qualifies

anyone to build airplanes.

You may find this amazing, but people were actually building flying machines

before the internet!!

Gary Boothe

Cool, CA

601 HDSTD, WW Conversion

Tail done, working on wings.... 

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runruny(at)aol.com

Or was it ronrony(at)aol.com

I hope spamers glean this address,  and send loads of viruses and spy bots 

to him......

In fact I URGE everyone with dial up to send him a virus........

He sent ANOTHER 13MB file...........a little more aggressive behavior from 

everyone,   MIGHT help him understand..........  a piece of well seasoned 

hickory on a mules head gets there attention every time..........

I am sure he is a nice guy,  He and several others just don't know what 

they are doing when it comes to uploading images.

Monty Graves

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d.goddard(at)ns.sympatico
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

What a ridiculous suggestion, are you so comfortable and so spoiled that any 

inconvenience to you must result in permanent exile of the person who causes 

it? It's a picture, you'll live.



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VideoFlyer(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

I think we should ban smokers, too!    Jeez, it's gettin to the point that I have to wear a mask and latex gloves, just to type on my computer!

 

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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

Okay now..... everyone take a deep breath.... that's it. Feel better?  BTW, being a computer whiz does not entitle anyone to be rude or to be inconsiderate in return for someone else's errors. 



Ed Moody II



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Don't bother flaming me, I will simplt hit delete.

JamesL(at)Lugoj.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

Gary Boothe wrote:

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		   Monty,

 

 I'm pretty much an internet neophyte, so I'm a little confused by your

 vitriol. If you are referring to "runruny(at)..." I looked up his last two

 posts out of curiosity. One dated 7/20 has a 1MB attachment (not a 13MB),

 and the previous one is minuscule.


	


It is probable that your ISP filtered out the 13MB message so you never 

saw it. Monty is correct in his complaint: "runruny(at)..." has sent two 

extremely large e-mails with picture attachments - one that my e-mail 

client (Mozilla Thunderbird) reports as being 1896 KB and the second as 

13,508 KB. Sadly, the larger of the two was sent AFTER people 

complained. (The photos were well done, at least.)



I have DSL, so normally such large isolated e-mails are not an issue. 

But I also travel occasionally to places without high-speed internet and 

have had to use dial-up from my laptop in order to keep up with work 

stuff. Then those huge e-mails do become a serious problem.



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		   Yes, maybe 1MB is too large for some, but a better solution to beating him

 with a hickory stick may be to tell him how to downsize his images. After

 all, I don't think being an internet wiz, or a computer guru, qualifies

 anyone to build airplanes.


	


The "runruny(at)..." person may be a fine pilot in front of the controls of 

a plane, a great builder, and all-around gentleman, but probably 

shouldn't be allowed in front of a computer again until he's had his 

biennial computing review.  A couple of people have already posted 

useful pointers on how to reduce image sizes before they are sent. I'm 

not sure what else can be done, short of action by the moderator.



Anyway, this is my first (and possibly last) e-mail to this list. I've 

been lurking for a short while to get a feel for the issues Zenith 

Zodiac builders encounter, among other things. It's quite an active 

list, so to avoid swamping myself I need to unsubscribe before checking 

out the next list I'm interested in lurking on (probably the RV-9 list).



Take care all!



Jim Logajan

Dexter, OR

p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

There is something each of us can do to limit this problem.  We can 

limit the size of message we automatically download.  I know this is 

possible with my email program, Eudora, and I presume it is a common 

setting in most programs.



Paul

XL fuselage

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At 09:33 AM 7/21/2006, you wrote:

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		  I'm not sure what else can be done, short of action by the moderator.


	


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Paul Mulwitz

32013 NE Dial Road

Camas, WA 98607

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mgraves(at)usmo.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

Mr. William D. Phillips

118 Chriswood Dr

Forshyth, GA 31029



Dear Sir,



Sorry my recent email exchange has caused you to think that I am a 

Terrorist Threat.



If you sincerely believe that I am a Terrorist or a serious threat to ANY 

mailing list member.   I would hope that you would include this email and 

my previous 2 posts to the Matronics Zenith Email list........with your 

letter to the FBI so that they may determine the extent of my perceived 

threats.



Mr Dralle,  the owner of the Zenith list, has asked us to police ourselves 

over sending attachments.  If these large attachments continue to be 

sent,  the option will be removed. Matt has already said that.......  He 

has no desire to store at his own expense,  these huge files,  anymore than 

the majority of the list wants to see an image of this size.......



Over the last few weeks several folks,  including myself have nicely and 

politely asked that this shouldn't be done, and offered help and resources 

to help those that need help..... unfortunately some are slow catching on.



My tongue in cheek rudeness and language was an intentional attempt on my 

part  to start a flame war, and draw attention to the problem.........  And 

it seems to have worked.  While I personally am more than able to filter, 

handle, delete, and download large file sizes.   What about the other older 

less experienced gentlemen,  that can't handle the larger file sizes..... 

The ones that don't speak up....  The ones that lurk and answer questions 

off list,  but never on list. ............  Their only option becomes to 

leave the list.......   Do we want to loose that valuable builder 

resource,  because a few snobbish inconsiderate  list members  live in a 

location and are able to afford high speed internet...........  Do we let 

them go ahead and upload a large file,  just because they can,   just to 

irritate the dial up guys that complain.........



I personally don't think we do......



If I insulted some of you.....  GOOD  I meant too. At least It got every 

ones attention...... Because if folks continue to send 1MB files and larger 

to the list...   The golden egg is going to get thrown out and we will be 

back where we were........... without pictures.......



Myself or any number of folks would be very very happy to help anyone learn 

how to resize an image.......all you have to do is ask...



Monty GRAVES

68 Brushy Fork RD

Iberia,  MO 65486

573-369-2973



B.S  University of Missouri  1978

MBA University of Missouri  1983



I am also the list owner of the Yahoo 701builders email list



And  scratch building a 701



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At 12:32 PM 7/21/2006 -0400, you wrote:

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		  Monty sounds a bit dangerous. Does anybody know this fellow? In Georgia 

the communicated threat of violence can be a felony of Terrorist Threats 

and Acts that carry a penalty of 1-5 years to serve. As this was done over 

the Internet across interstate wire comminution such acts could be a 

Federal charge. My advise is that any threat of violence to anyone on this 

list for any reason should result in immediate call to the FBI or U.S. 

Attorney's office. Can anyone identify who this Monty is and where he 

lives? I will be glad to make the call.

Bill Phillips,

Attorney at Law, Forsyth, Georgia N505WP, 601XL

Joemotis(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

In a message dated 7/21/2006 3:39:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  mgraves(at)usmo.com writes:

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		  Monty    GRAVES

68 Brushy Fork RD

Iberia,  MO  65486

573-369-2973 	


 

 Well, you sure sound like a trrrrrst to me. I'll bet you drink lite beer  too. Hmmmmmmm...

  

 J.D. Motis

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Joemotis(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

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		  At 12:32    PM 7/21/2006 -0400, you wrote:

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		  Monty sounds a bit dangerous. Does    anybody know this fellow? In Georgia 

the communicated threat of    violence can be a felony of Terrorist Threats 

and Acts that carry a    penalty of 1-5 years to serve. As this was done over 

the Internet    across interstate wire comminution such acts could be a 

Federal    charge. My advise is that any threat of violence to anyone on this    

list for any reason should result in immediate call to the FBI or U.S.    

Attorney's office. Can anyone identify who this Monty is and where he    

lives? I will be glad to make the call.

Bill    Phillips,

Attorney at Law, Forsyth, Georgia N505WP,  601XL 	


 
	


 My earlier "Get a grip" comment was directed at you, Sir. I did not realize  it was not addressed to you in the E mail. And if I need advice on any subject  excluding overbearing personalities, it will be from others than yourself. Now  please, put the nail clippers down sir!.

  

 J.D. Motis

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d.goddard(at)ns.sympatico
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

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		   I am also the list owner of the Yahoo 701builders email list

 


	


Yer also an A-hole

Joemotis(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

In a message dated 7/21/2006 5:06:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  d.goddard(at)ns.sympatico.ca writes:

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		  -->    Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave"    <d.goddard(at)ns.sympatico.ca>

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		   I am also the list owner of    the Yahoo 701 builders email list

 


	


Yer also an  A-hole

	


 

 Then you are Vulgar.  Oh God please make it stop....the 5th grade is  still a painful memory... and this silly crap on a site about building  EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT is really testing my patience. Delete is a wonderful tool  but one could hope that this group could consider itself a wee bit higher  on  the scale if not for any thing else than the subject matter at  hand.

  

 Thank you

 J.D. Motis

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: Please Ban from the list ANYONE that sends a

What are you guys going to do???  Flog  Monty severely with a wet codfish or take up lite beer?

  

  

 

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