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czechsix(at)juno.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

Guys, 

I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12.  Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be? 

I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a totally new design.  Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far: 

Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)

Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than "new" product)

Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional conservatism)

New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tapered planform or both 

The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design...   : | 

Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess?  Maybe Jerry Springer has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!) 

--Mark Navratil

Cedar Rapids, Iowa

RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...

gerf(at)gerf.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

Must be a VLJ ... sign me up !!



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 	  Quote: 	
		   Guys,

 I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that 

 Vans will be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one 

 which they have expended considerable effort on over the past 

 year and it is NOT the RV-12.  Any guesses or rumors as to what 

 it might be?

 I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would 

 be a totally new design.  Possibilities thrown out around the 

 water cooler so far:

 Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)

 Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product 

 improvement than "new" product)

 Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans 

 traditional conservatism)

 New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new 

 airfoil or tapered planform or both

 The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all 

 antsy over nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox 

 alternate air design...   : |

 Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess?  Maybe Jerry 

 Springer has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't 

 worry, I'm sure Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never 

 tell who we heard it from!)

 --Mark Navratil

 Cedar Rapids, Iowa

 RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...

 


	


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                   Tel: 415 203 9177

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steve(at)newtech.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

My guess/hope is that it is a steerable nose gear for the RV-7 like the 

one they are putting on the RV-12.  How better to develop the new gear 

than to put it on an RV-7 first.  I think we all can agree that the -7A 

nose gear is probably the weakest link in the Van's chain.



Steve Eberhart

RV-7A, waiting to order the finish kit as long as I can in hopes that 

this speculation is correct.

do not archive



czechsix(at)juno.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Guys,



 I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans 

 will be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have 

 expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the 

 RV-12.  Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?



[snip]
	




 	  Quote: 	
		   Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess?  Maybe Jerry Springer 

 has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure 

 Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)



 --Mark Navratil

 Cedar Rapids, Iowa

 RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...

ronlee(at)pcisys.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

A wider cockpit for the 6/7 design for us fat boys.



Ron Lee



Do nor archive

Terry Watson

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 290
Location: Seattle, WA USA

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

Mark,  

   

I was going to say Van’s big announcement is that they are switching to all composite construction and then run hide under my desk for a month or two. But here’s my serious guess (no inside information – just a guess.) Van’s is going to open a builder help facility to compete with what Glassair and maybe a few other kit manufacturer’s are doing, so guys like me can finish their project in 5 years instead of 10 and normal people can finish in a few months rather than a few years.  

   

Guess #2: They are going to certify and manufacture something, probably the RV-12 light sport aircraft.  

   

Terry  

RV-8A #80729  

   

p.s. Mark, I still want to copy you paint job.  

   

   

         

  

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of czechsix(at)juno.com

 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:35 AM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Major new product announcement from Vans  

  

   

Guys,  

I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12.  Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?  

I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a totally new design.  Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far:  

Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)

 Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than "new" product)

 Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional conservatism)

 New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tapered planform or both  

The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design...   : |  

Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess?  Maybe Jerry Springer has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)  

--Mark Navratil

 Cedar Rapids, Iowa

 RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...

Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.co
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

RV-10D(iesel)?

  

 Do not  archive



   From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  czechsix(at)juno.com

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:35  AM

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Major new  product announcement from Vans

 

 

Guys, 

I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will be  announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended  considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12.  Any  guesses or rumors as to what it might be? 

I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a totally  new design.  Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far: 

Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)

Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of  a product improvement than "new" product)

Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets  (would depart from Vans traditional conservatism)

New wing design for  existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tapered planform or both 

The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over nothing  and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design...   : | 

Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess?  Maybe Jerry Springer  has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't  read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!) 

--Mark Navratil

Cedar Rapids, Iowa

RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills  so far...

michele.delsol(at)microsi
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

I suggested it could be a parachute attachment to the fuelage.  

   

Michele  

RV8 - Fuselage  

         

  

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of czechsix(at)juno.com

 Sent: vendredi 14 juillet 2006 19:35

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Major new product announcement from Vans  

  

   

Guys,  

I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12.  Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?  

I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a totally new design.  Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so far:  

Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)

 Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than "new" product)

 Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional conservatism)

 New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or tapered planform or both  

The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design...   : |  

Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess?  Maybe Jerry Springer has the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)  

--Mark Navratil

 Cedar Rapids, Iowa

 RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...

Dale Ensing

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 571
Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

another personal opinion.........While I would agree that the nose gear on

the A models may be a weak link, I do not think making it steerable would be

an improvement. I would not want to give up the ability to do a tight 180

degree turn while parking which is possible with the current design.

Dale Ensing



 	  Quote: 	
		  

 My guess/hope is that it is a steerable nose gear for the RV-7 like the

 one they are putting on the RV-12.  How better to develop the new gear

 than to put it on an RV-7 first.  I think we all can agree that the -7A

 nose gear is probably the weakest link in the Van's chain.



 Steve Eberhart

do not archieve

_________________
Dale Ensing
RV-6A
Aero Plantation
Weddington NC

n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:27 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

My guess - a certifed plane.....  The kits/designs are nicer than most

aluminum certified planes out there.....  Although Van said he'd never do

it....

 	  Quote: 	
		   Guys,

 I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will

 be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have expended

 considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the RV-12.  Any

 guesses or rumors as to what it might be?

 I doubt it's the RV-11, and it's hard to imagine that it would be a

 totally new design.  Possibilities thrown out around the water cooler so

 far:

 Tail dragger RV-10 (unlikely)

 Matched-hole RV-8 fuselage (would be more of a product improvement than

 "new" product)

 Super RV-8 to complete with Rockets (would depart from Vans traditional

 conservatism)

 New wing design for existing RV-7/8 series, either a new airfoil or

 tapered planform or both

 The new wing is our best guess, or maybe we're getting all antsy over

 nothing and it will just be a new FAB airbox alternate air design...   : |

 Anybody else wanna toss out a speculative guess?  Maybe Jerry Springer has

 the inside scoop and will spill the beans (don't worry, I'm sure Van

 doesn't read the RV List and we'll never tell who we heard it from!)

 --Mark Navratil

 Cedar Rapids, Iowa

 RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...

jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:27 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

czechsix(at)juno.com wrote:



Me spill the beans, never happen  I don't think much goes on this 

RV-List that Van does not hear about rather quickly.



Jerry

do not archive



 	  Quote: 	
		    Maybe Jerry Springer has the inside scoop and will spill the beans 

 (don't worry, I'm sure Van doesn't read the RV List and we'll never 

 tell who we heard it from!)



 --Mark Navratil

 Cedar Rapids, Iowa

 RV-8A N2D with 65 hours of thrills so far...



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jmsears(at)adelphia.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

 	  Quote: 	
		   My guess/hope is that it is a steerable nose gear for the 

 RV-7 like the one they are putting on the RV-12.  How 

 better to develop the new gear than to put it on an RV-7 

 first.  I think we all can agree that the -7A nose gear is 

 probably the weakest link in the Van's chain.

 

Steve, I'm hoping your speculation is incorrect, as well.  
	


I've found that the weakest link in Van's -7A is not the 

gear.  It's the pilot.  I've been flying aircraft with castoring 

nose gears since 1990 and have had good luck with them.  

Since I'm just an average pilot, I assure you it's no big 

deal.  The proper training will fill in the gaps.  



By the way, I've seen as many Cessnas with bent nose 

gears as I've seen RV's.  In each case, it wasn't the 

design of the nose gear.  It was the pilot's pilotage that

took it out.  Well, one of the RV incidents was actually

a forced landing with a dead engine.  Loose nut on a 

fuel line.  Anyway, I never replaced the nose gear on my

RV-6A when Van offered to replace the weaker nose 

gears.  I figured if his prototype's nose gear held up as 

well as it did, I'd hold off replacing mine.  I didn't see

any need to fix what wasn't broken.  It's still just fine.  

So are my original rudder stirrups.  And, I do land on

grass strips.          



As long as you take care to land properly, it's a pretty 

good set up.  It's good enough that I'd prefer that they 

don't mess with it; or, worst case, give us a choice.  Like, 

maybe making the steerable version an option.  To be 

honest, I'd be surprised if they change what already works.  

That won't help you, though.  Hey, once you get to making

those tight turns at the tie down, and such, you'll forget 

all about wanting that steerable nose gear.  



Jim Sears in KY

brian.kraut(at)engalt.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:45 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

Guess one and I would be willing to bet money on it would be a smaller LSA RV, possibly O-200 powered.



Guess two would be the glider which I would love to see, but I don't know that they would consider that major.



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rv8ch

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 250
Location: Switzerland

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

I think they will start delivering the RVator in PDF format, saving

enough in postage to fund the development a VLJ.



-- 

Mickey Coggins

http://www.rv8.ch/

#82007 finishing

do not archive

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Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/

rv7(at)b4.ca
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

I'll second a vote for a tapered wing.  The F1 EVO Rocket looks pretty damn

sweet with that tapered wing to match the tapered tail surfaces.



-Rob

Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

Primer.  Self-cleaning, self-etching, auto-ding-filling primer.  Made by 

Vans.  In a can.  Makes pop rivets look like driven rivets.  Wonderful 

stuff.  ;<)

 	  Quote: 	
		   Guys,

 

 I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and it says that Vans will 

 be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one which they have 

 expended considerable effort on over the past year and it is NOT the 

 RV-12.  Any guesses or rumors as to what it might be?

dburton(at)nwlink.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

 	  Quote: 	
		  I think they will start delivering the RVator in PDF format, saving

enough in postage to fund the development a VLJ.


	


I like this guess the best!



Maybe it's that they are planning to print enough calendars to actually be

able to fill MY order.  I haven't gotten one for years, not from lack of

trying...



I listened to Ken Scott talk at Arlington and he denied anything new in the

works.  He said the 12 would not make Osh, but might be flying by the

Homecoming.  The glider is Van's personal project and is far from complete.

I intended to kid him about a VLJ but didn't.  He said they were working

hard on the 12 and that in addition to shipping parts was more then enough

to keep them busy.  I suppose they could "announce" the 12, but since the

specs are not known yet and they haven't built a conforming ship yet it

would be unlike Van to do more then mention it.



I guess we'll see at Osh.

walter(at)tondu.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

LSA is my bet.



-- 

Walter Tondu

http://www.rv7-a.com

Flying!

pbesing(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

This is a great one for the archives...look at all the

keywords below!



DO NOT ARCHIVE!!



--- Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <Tim_Lewis(at)msm.umr.edu>

 

 Primer.  Self-cleaning, self-etching,

 auto-ding-filling primer.  Made by 

 Vans.  In a can.  Makes pop rivets look like driven

 rivets.  Wonderful 

 stuff.  ;<)

 

 

 > Guys,

 > 

 > I just got the most recent copy of the RVator and

 it says that Vans will 

 > be announcing a major new product at Oshkosh, one

 which they have 

 > expended considerable effort on over the past year

 and it is NOT the 

 > RV-12.  Any guesses or rumors as to what it might

 be?

 

 

 

 



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greg(at)itmack.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

I second that one Mickey.  I asked them about this one a while back mainly 

so I could get it in colour.



Greg

RV8 in Oz



 	  Quote: 	
		  

 I think they will start delivering the RVator in PDF format, saving

 enough in postage to fund the development a VLJ.



 -- 

 Mickey Coggins

 http://www.rv8.ch/

 #82007 finishing

 do not archive



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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: Major new product announcement from Vans

That's mine too, regardless of what they say. Hey it wouldn't be a 

"surprise" at OSH if they announced it NOW. It will at least be a full proto 

type, ready to fly but "driven" to OSH in a box van & assembled there. Look 

at all the hype they have created by announcing that the BIG advancement is 

NOT the RV-12. Yea Right.  KABONG

Do Not Archive.  Van is dumb like a fox.



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