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steveg(at)nternet.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Nico,



Is your teletuition site for commander pics and documents up?  I have tried

to access it a few times this morning and get a return saying my credentials

are not correct for access.



Steve Gilson

BertBerry1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Your doing better than I am, I can't get Nico's site to come up at all.

 �

 Bert

nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Hmmm. I'll take a look, Steve, and if it's broken, I'll fix it.

Thanks for the feedback.

Nico

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Steve,

Please try it now and let me know if you have success or not.

Thanks

Nico

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steveg(at)nternet.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Nico,



5 x 5.  Among a few documents I was looking for I was hoping to also see a

few pics of Bruce C's 4186B.  



Bruce, if you have not done so, please send some pictures to Nico's list.



Thanks,

Steve G.



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john(at)vormbaum.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Steve,



Perhaps Chris Schuermann is reading this....he was the guy who restored 

Bruce's 520 to its original (beautiful) condition, and he used to have a 

great photo diary on the web. Perhaps it still exists somewhere and he'll 

chime in.



Although I too would love to see some recent pics of her while under Bruce's 

care .



/J

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cschuerm(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

John Vormbaum wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Perhaps it still exists somewhere and 

 he'll chime in.


	


You're too kind with your description John.  I never did really get to 

finish that project sadly.  I'm tickled that she's in good hands and 

that Bruce is both flying and improving along the way!  I dredged 

through the web site, and some of the pics are still available at:

http://www.aerocommander.com/Myresto/index.html



I HAVE, however, been able to finish my current steed.  Isn't a 

commander, but she's sure a sweetie:

http://members.cox.net/cschuerm/

cheers

Chris

steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

What a beautiful job you've made of 'Pugly'.



Old round airplanes look best with old style paint schemes.



That airplane looks like a nice place to spend some time.



Steve

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cschuerm(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

steve2 wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   What a beautiful job you've made of 'Pugly'.


	


Thanks Steve!

I spent months debating over different paint schemes before coming up 

with that one.  It's a difficult airplane to put an attactive paint job 

on for sure.  I've really enjoyed this airplane a lot more than I 

thought I would.  It's just a wonderful airplane to fly.  Big, roomy, 

stable, and very docile.



cheers,

Chris

tfisher(at)commandergroup
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Gentelmen,



I have been informed that my Ray Jay turbo chargers need replacement due to 

cracks on the hot side which are beyond limits.  Are there any Ray Jay's out 

there?



Tom F.

C-GISS

680FLP (Mr.RPM)

floydgm(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Talk to Gary Main at Main Turbos:



Main Turbo Systems	800-847-8815

234 Cotta CT.

Visalia CA. 93292



He will fix you up.



Mike

Commander NW

tfisher(at)commandergroup
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Gary has my turbos now, $5,400.00 is generating these inquiries as this was 

an unexpected expense and I need to find an alternate solution.



By the way, do these Ray Jay's have "blankets" on them?

The engineers say yes, the original owner says no.

Can't find them in the Mr.RPM drawings.



Tom F.

C-GISS

680FLP (Mr.RPM)



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floydgm(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Yes they do have blankets, I do not have the P/N with me I am in Anchorage 

right now headed to Barrow today.

The only other solution to the turbos are new from Kelly Aerospace purchased 

through Aviall or API. Only problem with that is a 6 to 8 week lead time.

Main Turbos can do an overhaul and turn them usually in a day, off the top 

of my head though that is probably the $5400 you are talking about.



Mike

Commander NW

john(at)vormbaum.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:23 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Tom, call Morris 321-403-8813 and he'll give you the name of the company in 

southern California that mfr's them. I got a new set (4!) a couple of years 

ago for a bargain, only $2,500 each. And it took 2 trips, as the first set 

had the wrong wheels in them and would suck when you added "boost". I could 

get the MP to drop 4" by closing the wastegates.



/John

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cschuerm(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Tom Fisher wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I have been informed that my Ray Jay turbo chargers need replacement


	




Tom,

When I did the engine on my Viking, I went with new rayjays.  I was told 

that there had been a number of improvments made by the current mfgr 

that eliminated some of the problems as well as a new bearing design 

which gave much longer life.  The cost wasn't much more than a complete 

overhaul if memory serves.  FYI, the new carbon bearings will leak a bit 

on the new units until they seat in.  I had some puddles under the 

exhaust stacks for about the first 30  hours or so, then things dried up 

nicely and they performed flawlessly from that point on.



Chris

rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Chris-



Is this leaking behavior normal for all turbos?



Robert 



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brcamp(at)windows.microso
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Do you know if the current manufacturer of RayJays retained the STCs? Is

there one for the 520? Who is the current manufacturer, anyway?



         Bruce Campbell

       



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cschuerm(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Robert S. Randazzo wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Is this leaking behavior normal for all turbos?


	




I honestly can't say about other brands.  A tech guy at Consolidated 

provided that information when I called and inquired about the leakage 

on the new RayJays.  He said that they'd redesigned the bearing assembly 

using some new carbon-based material that had to seat in just like a new 

set of piston rings.

Before that, it was considered "bad" if you had bearing leakage at all - 

a sign of bearing seal failure.  Don't know if everyone in the industry 

has changed or not.



chris

cschuerm(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Bruce Campbell wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Do you know if the current manufacturer of RayJays retained the STCs? Is

 there one for the 520? Who is the current manufacturer, anyway?


	


Bruce,

The current manufacturer is now Kelly Aerospace.  If memory serves, they 

bought them from Consolidated who bought out Rayjay.  Along the way, 

some of the STCs were sold off.  I have a vague recollection that "Wind 

Dancer" ended up with the Commander related STCs.  The principal of that 

company used to be on this list, but I'm drawing a blank on his name 

(sorry).  They used to have a web site at:

www.winddancer.aero  but it seems to be gone now.



You might contact Kelly at:

http://www.kellyaerospace.com/turbos.html



Cheers,

Chris

brcamp(at)windows.microso
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: Commander pics and stuff

Bad news about Wind Dancer. It was owned by eent.com, who does have a

web site. When I called, the message discussed "the involuntary order of

chapter 11" which was filed. 



Airnav no longer mentions wind dancer aviation.  



Oh well.. So what happens to an STC when the owner disappears? It would

seem sad for all of those STCs to disappear with them.



               Bruce 



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