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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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 Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: Atrocious - Long Rant - Trying to end it |
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I feel a bit bad because I launched the original thread, and it's
kind of gone off the deep end a bit. I'd like to quickly clarify.
First, I just read the post from Linn Walters this a.m. and he said
it very well. I can tell he gets the point 100%.
The initial post was referring to awful quality, but mainly directed
towards those who build the plane for someone else, not for themselves.
I guarantee that even the pridefull builder who diligently worked to
make his plane beautiful, will recognize some flaws in their plane.
It's hard to get things perfect....did anyone notice the difference
between my passenger door rear seam and Debbie's in Deems's photos?
Some of that stuff is hard to perfect. So sure, you build yourself
a -10 and people are going to notice it at OSH...the good and the
bad. Don't feel like you have to be perfect. I know mine didn't
hold a candle to Debbie's, but I'm still very happy with how it
turned out.
As for the list readers, if you're reading this list, then you're
probably not at all one of the people who would skimp on the
effort to do it right in the first place. You're here trying
to learn from posts, possibly as a lurker, and even that is
admirable that you care that much to filter out the daily junk
for the weekly gem. The concern was more for those who were
both violating the 51% rule, and building to low standards, which
as most would agree would not be a good thing for anyone. I didn't
care to name names, as it wasn't necessary. I feel bad that Jesse's
name was ever involved. He does good work and has a great plane.
In his case my only hope is that the builders "assist" is truly
that, where the builder actually goes to Ecuador and actually
does complete the FAA's required checklist of items if he's to
be named on the repairman's cert. I don't know much about the
operation, but my gut feeling is that these first 2 planes that
they've done have been more of a "proof of concept" and training
period....not that they're going full-scale into it yet. Done
correctly and legally, it could be a respectable builders assist.
So don't feel attacked, even though some strong words get
tossed around. The builder who isn't rushing and sacrificing
quality to make the "big show" is doing just great. I know it
was painful for people like Scott Schmidt to go to OSH and see
ANY RV-10's there, knowing his meticulous kit was still
waiting on the ground at home. Thankfully he has the patience
to do it right.
Jeff Morgan had a good post last night too. I think we should
try to get back on the positive for a while, so I'll follow
up with another post a bit later if I can squeeze in a little
trip story. One thing regarding the campfire discussions though,
it should be known that the issues that we saw with some of
the planes actually run deeper than what was discussed on-list.
I won't go into public, textual detail about the flaws, but
please understand that in at least a couple of situations,
after talking with the builder a bit, the items that were
being overlooked in the interest of flying to OSH were definite
airworthiness mechanical issues....things that should
have been taken care of before a X/C flight. Ask yourself....
if you had an engine problem, where you KNOW something is
wrong, and you KNOW you could ruin your engine....would you
fly it across the US? So try not to let yourself slide into
the situation where you're so opposed to negative conversation
that you would rather not see a discussion about such things.
One last note on negativity: What's the most negative
thing you can read in most magazines? How about "I learned
about flying from that", or "Never Again" articles...
Personally, these are the real gems that I read every month.
I've actually BEEN in the situations in IFR/Marginal VFR
where the thought has went through my head "You know, if
I'm not careful, I could end up as one of those stories,
or worse, not be able to write one ever again." The slap
in the face negativity can have some good effects sometimes.
That's really my intent if I ever speak that way.
Again, thanks for following the thread even when it goes
haywire....the people who care enough to be here and learn
are not the ones being targeted and probably have nothing
to worry about. Keep up the diligent work!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: Atrocious - Long Rant - Trying to end it |
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Sorry Tim, I need to step in as one of the people who took it off the
deep end.
I brought Jessie's name out into the open along with John Nys and
others and I have absolutely no regret about it and it is not something
you should feel bad about. Jessie and others know exactly what they are
doing and I also was very clear I think Jessie's intent is more the
education of the people he is in Ecuador to help. The financial side of
it is a bonus to further help them and I can respect that. I also feel
he should not register the aircraft in the US as he is not building it
in the US.
But anyway I agree with pretty much everything else. I am not trying
to be negative or bash guys out there but rather raise awareness of some
of the things going on. I feel conversations like this help to pressure
some of the guys that may be on the fence about building for profit to
think twice about it.
Michael
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