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Bob Perkinson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 51
Location: Hendersonville, Tennessee

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

I was asked the other day by a neighbor if this airplane (-9) would fly

without the slider canopy on the plane.  I don't know!    Anybody got

opinions or facts about whether the plane would even be controllable without

the slider section of canopy on the plane.



Bob Perkinson

Hendersonville, TN.

RV9 N658RP Reserved

If nothing changes

Nothing changes



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cweyant(at)chuckdirect.co
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

I've seen a 6a fly without the canopy on.  He said it was too windy and 

noisy to do it again.

Chuck

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Morocketman(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

Vans seems to intimate that RV-4's have flown0without canopies in their advertisement for a "canopy lock."  Seems that I remember someone stating that the canopy would depart without any problem regarding the empanage.  

      Just running up the engine to taxi with my tilt canopy open on the Rocket, would blow my headset and hat off into the back seat.  I don't want to experience the direct blast of air without a canopy.  Especially below about 50F.

      Hey, Gummybear, didn't some folks fly home in0F-100's and F-4's etc. without the canopy?

      Ya'll be careful out there,   Les

  

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T.gummo(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

Les,

  

 My backseater lost his canopy on takeoff roll once.  He0 claims it was windy put I knew he was OK, when I could see him stick his hand0 out into the wind and play with the air.  I kept the speed down in the0 200-250 knot range, while we burned down enough gas to safely land.  Of0 course, as the pilot, the bird colonel DO yelled at me. 0 

  

 For the front seater, the first part of the canopy was fixed,0 so if the canopy was lost, you could duck down and have a wind0 break.

  

 Tom "GummiBear" Gummo 

Wild Weasel #1573

 F-4G Instructor Pilot

 Major, USAF Retired

 http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html

 

Apple Valley, CA

Harmon Rocket-II

 N561FS, 280 hours

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evmeg(at)snowcrest.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

There was at least one RV4 sportster built with an open cockpit. It had the

back seat covered with a modified turtledeck that came right up behind the

pilots head. Pretty cool, but probably too fast for an open cockpit

plane....

Evan

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Morocketman(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:33 am Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

I kind of misunderstood the question.  I thought you were referring to inadvertent loss of the canopy rather than purposeful departure without it.

  

 I have flown a good deal of open/no cockpit airplanes, and I would defer to the experienced motorcyclists on the list as to what max speed is0comfortable, and what is too fast.  My feeling is over 70 without a windscreen is getting pretty fast, and over 85-95 (ie Skybolt, Pitts) with a w/s is getting on the edge.  And that is with safe head and face protection.

  

 Them bugs start to hit danged hard.

  

 Let us know how the flight goes........................

  

 Les

  

 PS  Good report Gummybear!

  

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mike
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

I guess with that, is it a slider or tip up. with a slider you have somewhat of a shield up front.

B25Flyer

Joined: 06 Mar 2006
Posts: 11

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

I lost a tip-over canopy (no windshield) on a full scale plastic replica of a P-51 with a T-53 Lycoming Turbine.  I was at about 185 kias when it came off.  I flew about 5 miles back to the airport and landed.  I had to add some power on downwind/ base and the helmet nearly tore my head off.  It was the most physically demanding thing I have ever done in my life!!!!  



The visor was ripped off my helmet, but the helmet kept my glasses on my face and protected my eyes.  Without them I doubt I could have done it.  



We found the canopy on the roof of a building, buffed out the scratches, glued the hinges on again and 24 hours later, we were flying again. With a safety latch.



There was a harmonic in the latch lever.   The lever vibrated and came unlatched again while I was being photographed on the East side of Lake Winnebago at OSH and it was a long scary trip back to OSH, but the safety latch held.



I would not recommend it. Latch your canopy and check it twice!



I like the fixed windscreen on the Rocket!



Tailwinds,

Doug Rozendaal

F1 EVO

lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:19 am Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

That's absolutely amazing! And to find the canopy

almost unharmed...



I'm glad you were able to return safe.



Darrell



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--- B25Flyer <dougr(at)petroblend.com> wrote:



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 <dougr(at)petroblend.com>

 

 I lost a tip-over canopy (no windshield) on a full

 scale plastic replica of a P-51 with a T-53 Lycoming

 Turbine.  I was at about 185 kias when it came off. 

 I flew about 5 miles back to the airport and landed.

  I had to add some power on downwind/ base and the

 helmet nearly tore my head off.  It was the most

 physically demanding thing I have ever done in my

 life!!!!  

 

 The visor was ripped off my helmet, but the helmet

 kept my glasses on my face and protected my eyes. 

 Without them I doubt I could have done it.  

 

 We found the canopy on the roof of a building,

 buffed out the scratches, glued the hinges on again

 and 24 hours later, we were flying again. With a

 safety latch.

 

 There was a harmonic in the latch lever.   The lever

 vibrated and came unlatched again while I was being

 photographed on the East side of Lake Winnebago at

 OSH and it was a long scary trip back to OSH, but

 the safety latch held.

 

 I would not recommend it. Latch your canopy and

 check it twice!

 

 I like the fixed windscreen on the Rocket!

 

 Tailwinds,

 Doug Rozendaal

 F1 EVO

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

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pcowper(at)webtv.net (Pet
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:06 am Post subject: Will an RV Fly without the slider canopy

If you plan a cross-country cruise in even a moderately powered RV-8

without a canopy, I suggest a very good GPS and electronic Jepp plates .

. . 'cause you'll never be able to unfold a sectional map.



I asked Danny King from Texas this same question some time back when our

California Central Valley summer temperatures were hovering over 100

degrees.  He wisely told me to quit day dreaming and get back to

building.



Pete Cowper

RV-8 #81139 (working on fuselage)

Visalia Municipal Airport, Hanger B-5

Vice-President, EAA Tex Rankin Chapter #262

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