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Lynn Matteson
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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Having done my dual x-country the day before, I was sent on my 1st solo
x-country Tuesday....a 109 statute-mile trek up to Mt. Pleasant,
Michigan. I did all the math, plotted a course, filed a flight plan,
and other than being bumpier than I would have liked, it was fun, and
came out as expected...right at the airport...isn't science wonderful?
I had a GPS, but didn't use it for the trip up, but used it on the
return leg, which my instructor had said was alright. On the return
leg, I diverted over the Central Michigan Dragway, where I used to race
in another life. : )....and over a house in which I used to live. I
actually plotted out the diverted return trip, but used the GPS to find
things, as there are few good landmarks in that area. I found that it
was quite difficult to locate a grass airport when you are circling
right over it! Sorry, Marco, Deke, Rex, Richard, and others, you all
live further away than my instructor wanted me to go. : )....next time
for sure. Oh yeah, this was also my first solo shot at a pavement
landing, which went ok as well....about a 20 mph, 30 degree crosswind,
so not too shabby, I guess.
The return trip was longer, and I was able to get a rough figure on
fuel burn over the 168 s. miles. I used about 3.75 US gallons per hour.
This is in a Kitfox IV with Jabiru 2200 engine, and I was running about
2400-2700 rpm for the most part...just cruising around seeing the
sights, and having fun. This is by no means an accurate count. But as I
use fuel up this week, I will have to re-fuel at a "metered" facility
and will get data that will be more meaningful. I usually fuel up at my
hangar, but that tank ran dry, and there is no way to measure...not yet
anyway...the amount that it takes to fill. When the big truck comes to
refill my storage tank, I'll see about getting a flow meter, so I can
get better numbers on how much I'm putting into the plane, and
therefore better numbers on fuel burn.
This just about wraps up the training required for my sport pilot
cert., and I'll be scheduling a checkride in the next week or so.
Lynn
Kitfox IV...Jabiru 2200
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:04 am Post subject: 1st solo x-country, and pavement landing |
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Hello Lynn
Congrats on your flight. As you know I recently purchased a Model 4 with Jab
2200 and I fitted a fuel flow meter to analyze fuel consumption etc.
At 2740 rpm I am burning 14.00 Ltr/hr (3.6USG) and at 2600 I am burning
under 13 Ltr/hr (3.4USG) so we pretty much agree. One question though what
speed are you cruising at these RPM's?
I have played around with jets etc as I still have a slight problem on take
off where my front cylinder EGT's peak at 3100 rpm. Once I throttle back
even 100 rpm the EGT falls into line. Apart from this anomaly all temps are
absolutely perfect (especially in cruise). The Jabiru dealer told me I am
basically being over concerned and I should not worry about it. I just hate
giving up on a nagging problem.
The other problem I have is related to instrumentation where my VSI is
reading about 400 ft/min low (even when stationary) and my Altimeter reads
about 500ft high when I calibrate with the tower. This plane has a dual
Pitot - one with a forward facing opening and the other (welded to it) has a
side facing orifice. I though it might be a blockage there but even when I
pull the static line from the back of the instruments nothing changes.
I don't really understand the VSI/Air speed/Altimeter circuitry yet as the
Static line is connected to a box with electrical connection behind the
panel and I assume this has something to do with the Engine monitoring
system??
Damn - unless someone can help me I might be forced to read the
instructions.....
Regards
Gary Algate
The return trip was longer, and I was able to get a rough figure on
fuel burn over the 168 s. miles. I used about 3.75 US gallons per hour.
This is in a Kitfox IV with Jabiru 2200 engine, and I was running about
2400-2700 rpm for the most part
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: 1st solo x-country, and pavement landing |
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Nice going Lynn. Mt. Pleasant is just outside my 40 mile FAA tether or I could have met you there. I have 5.5 hours to go until the tether is cut. I put in a NavMan 2100 flow meter (marine model) last week. Haven't checked it for accuracy yet but it shows a fuel burn of about 2.5 gph at 5000 rpm (cruise) and 7 gph at full throttle (6200 rpm). I hope it will eliminate the guess work. If so it will be well worth the price at $111.95.
Looking forward to a Michigan gathering of the Foxes sometime. This Fall maybe?
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
[quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
Having done my dual x-country the day before, I was sent on my 1st solo
x-country Tuesday....a 109 statute-mile trek up to Mt. Pleasant,
Michigan. I did all the math, plotted a course, filed a flight plan,
and other than being bumpier than I would have liked, it was fun, and
came out as expected...right at the airport...isn't science wonderful?
I had a GPS, but didn't use it for the trip up, but used it on the
return leg, which my instructor had said was alright. On the return
leg, I diverted over the Central Michigan Dragway, where I used to race
in another life. : )....and over a house in which I used to live. I
actually plotted out the diverted return trip, but used the GPS to find
things, as there are few good landmarks in that area. I found that it
was quite difficult to locate a grass airport when you are circling
right over it! Sorry, Marco, Deke, Rex, Richard, and others, you all
live further away than my instructor wanted me to go. : )....next time
for sure. Oh yeah, this was also my first solo shot at a pavement
landing, which went ok as well....about a 20 mph, 30 degree crosswind,
so not too shabby, I guess.
The return trip was longer, and I was able to get a rough figure on
fuel burn over the 168 s. miles. I used about 3.75 US gallons per hour.
This is in a Kitfox IV with Jabiru 2200 engine, and I was running about
2400-2700 rpm for the most part...just cruising around seeing the
sights, and having fun. This is by no means an accurate count. But as I
use fuel up this week, I will have to re-fuel at a "metered" facility
and will get data that will be more meaningful. I usually fuel up at my
hangar, but that tank ran dry, and there is no way to measure...not yet
anyway...the amount that it takes to fill. When the big truck comes to
refill my storage tank, I'll see about getting a flow meter, so I can
get better numbers on how much I'm putting into the plane, and
therefore better numbers on fuel burn.
This just about wraps up the training Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. [url=http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42974/*http://www.yahoo.com/preview] Check it out.[/url] [quote][b]
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: 1st solo x-country, and pavement landing |
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Gary-
Is the "box with electrical connection" possibly the altitude encoder?
When I installed my transponder just recently, it came (used from my
instructor) with an Altitude Digitizer, also known (by me at least) as
an altitude encoder, which needs a source of static pressure to sense
where in the world it is, height-wise. I have installed two static
ports, using the location given by the Skystar instructions. Somebody
here on the list suggested two as opposed to just the one, to offset
any fluctuations during slips. At that time I didn't know a slip from a
lady's undergarment, so I went ahead and installed the second directly
across the fuselage from the first one. Now when I slip (I know what
one is now!) there seems to be no change in airspeed, as was suggested
might happen with only one static port, slipping to the single-ported
side.
When I bought my EIS from Pete Krotje at Jabiru USA, he said to
probably not bother with the fuel flow accessory, as it was used mainly
to sense when the main needle was being pulled out of the jet, and
going into a richer condition, like at higher rpms. (Hope I quoted him
correctly). Now that I've got some time on me and the plane, I think
I'll get the flow meter, as I'd like to see this transition point, and
be able to stay below that fuel-gobbling point if I care to.
In regards to the EGT temps, Pete suggested that I rotate the carb
slightly in its' mounting sleeve, such that the top of the carb is
going towards the rich (cold) side, and the bottom towards the lean
(hot) side....hope I recall those directions correctly. I did this, and
my EGT's settled down from the left side being hotter. At cruise, which
ranges from 85 mph to 100, depending on the wind, and what rpm I decide
is tickling my fancy at that moment, my EGT's are around 1390 to 1420
or so. I'll eventually settle down from looking at the scenery, and do
a better job of recording info, but I'm still learning to fly, so I'm
trying to keep my eyes outside, and not having someone along to record
info (oughtta fire up that little tape recorder I've got at the
hangar), I'm just taking occasional glances at the EIS and other
gauges. Maybe I'll make "number gathering" a priority on tonight's
flight.
I even asked Pete what should the EGT span be and he said there were no
published figures. I set mine at 200, and get an occasional red light
while climbing, I level off and it goes away. Sometimes I get a red
light warning of EGT span when initially climbing out for the first
flight of the day, in the cool mornings of lower Michigan (plug for the
Tourist Commission), but it goes away sometimes before I can reach up
to "acknowledge". During cruise while on my x-cntry, my span was about
20-30 degrees on the EGT's. More info as I get it...
Lynn
p.s. Is your engine new enough to have the factory-fitted lean burn kit
installed? Mine is Serial #2062 ( as I recall) and it has it. I think
they started the lean burn at something around #1800.
On Thursday, August 17, 2006, at 03:06 PM, Algate wrote:
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Hello Lynn
Congrats on your flight. As you know I recently purchased a Model 4
with Jab
2200 and I fitted a fuel flow meter to analyze fuel consumption etc.
At 2740 rpm I am burning 14.00 Ltr/hr (3.6USG) and at 2600 I am
burning
under 13 Ltr/hr (3.4USG) so we pretty much agree. One question though
what
speed are you cruising at these RPM's?
I have played around with jets etc as I still have a slight problem on
take
off where my front cylinder EGT's peak at 3100 rpm. Once I throttle
back
even 100 rpm the EGT falls into line. Apart from this anomaly all
temps are
absolutely perfect (especially in cruise). The Jabiru dealer told me I
am
basically being over concerned and I should not worry about it. I just
hate
giving up on a nagging problem.
The other problem I have is related to instrumentation where my VSI is
reading about 400 ft/min low (even when stationary) and my Altimeter
reads
about 500ft high when I calibrate with the tower. This plane has a dual
Pitot - one with a forward facing opening and the other (welded to it)
has a
side facing orifice. I though it might be a blockage there but even
when I
pull the static line from the back of the instruments nothing changes.
I don't really understand the VSI/Air speed/Altimeter circuitry yet as
the
Static line is connected to a box with electrical connection behind the
panel and I assume this has something to do with the Engine monitoring
system??
Damn - unless someone can help me I might be forced to read the
instructions.....
Regards
Gary Algate
The return trip was longer, and I was able to get a rough figure on
fuel burn over the 168 s. miles. I used about 3.75 US gallons per hour.
This is in a Kitfox IV with Jabiru 2200 engine, and I was running about
2400-2700 rpm for the most part
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: 1st solo x-country, and pavement landing |
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Hi Marco-
Sounds good to me...I should have my "ticket to ride" by then. I
thought about going to yours, Dekes, Bill Willyard's, Richard's...all
just a pinch too far for my instructor's well-being. It was really nice
to see Mid-Michigan by air, but I did get a little nervous and
purposely wandered off-course when I saw a LOT of trees up by Ithaca.
As soon as I get my freedom though, I'll have to get used to having
trees under me if I'm gonna go anyplace. : )
Lynn
On Thursday, August 17, 2006, at 03:19 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
| Quote: | Nice going Lynn. Mt. Pleasant is just outside my 40 mile FAA tether or
I could have met you there. I have 5.5 hours to go until the tether is
cut. I put in a NavMan 2100 flow meter (marine model) last week.
Haven't checked it for accuracy yet but it shows a fuel burn of about
2.5 gph at 5000 rpm (cruise) and 7 gph at full throttle (6200 rpm). I
hope it will eliminate the guess work. If so it will be well worth the
price at $111.95.
Looking forward to a Michigan gathering of the Foxes sometime. This
Fall maybe?
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
Having done my dual x-country the day before, I was sent on my 1st solo
x-country Tuesday....a 109 statute-mile trek up to Mt. Pleasant,
Michigan. I did all the math, plotted a course, filed a flight plan,
and other than being bumpier than I would have liked, it was fun, and
came out as expected...right at the airport...isn't science wonderful?
I had a GPS, but didn't use it for the trip up, but used it on the
return leg, which my instructor had said was alright. On the return
leg, I diverted over the Central Michigan Dragway, where I used to race
in another life. : )....and over a house in which I used to live. I
actually plotted out the diverted return trip, but used the GPS to find
things, as there are few good landmarks in that area. I found that it
was quite difficult to locate a grass airport when you are circling
right over it! Sorry, Marco, Deke, Rex, Richard, and others, you all
live further away than my instructor wanted me to go. : )....next time
for sure. Oh yeah, this was also my first solo shot at a pavement
landing, which went ok as well....about a 20 mph, 30 degree crosswind,
so not too shabby, I guess.
The return trip was longer, and I was able to get a rough figure on
fuel burn over the 168 s. miles. I used about 3.75 US gallons per hour.
This is in a Kitfox IV with Jabiru 2200 engine, and I was running about
2400-2700 rpm for the most part...just cruising around seeing the
sights, and having fun. This is by no means an accurate count. But as I
use fuel up this week, I will have to re-fuel at a "metered" facility
and will get data that will be more meaningful. I usually fuel up at my
hangar, but that tank ran dry, and there is no way to measure...not yet
anyway...the amount that it takes to fill. When the big truck comes to
refill my storage tank, I'll see about getting a flow meter, so I can
get better numbers on how much I'm putting into the plane, and
therefore better numbers on fuel burn.
This just about wraps up the training
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Lynn Matteson
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Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: 1st solo x-country, and pavement landing |
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Thanks, Deke...I was thinking when I sent it direct to you that it made
me look a bit paranoid, but I figured you'd do the right thing. Share
it with anyone who asks unless it's a stranger with a rather Mid-East
sounding name, maybe looking to buy cellphones. : )
Lynn
do not archive
On Thursday, August 17, 2006, at 07:17 PM, Fox5flyer wrote:
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<morid(at)northland.lib.mi.us>
Kudos Lynn. It won't be long before you'll be perusing the Michigan
directory looking for new places to go without having to ask ANYBODY.
I received your bio and will add it to the Michigan list that I'll be
sending it out to you folks soon. I'm a bit hesitant to make it
completely
public as some may not like personal info placed on the list, so I'm
only
sending it to the people who are actually on it.
This is just a first step without knowing where the second step will
go.
I had no idea we had so many Kitfoxes in Michigan and it makes me
wonder how
many more there are out there who aren't on the Kitfox List.
Deke
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: 1st solo x-country, and pavement landing |
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Way to go, Lynn. Extend to Toledo when you finish with the FAA hoops.
Fred
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Lynn Matteson
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Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: 1st solo x-country, and pavement landing |
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I'm planning on it ,Fred.
Lynn
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On Thursday, August 17, 2006, at 09:37 PM, Fred Shiple wrote:
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Fred
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