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spudnuts

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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: Building a new Fox

Is this even possible?  I've been to the new kitfox site and sent a couple of emails about building one, but have not heard back.  They are in business now right? I'll assume they are just busy.



Lacking a response from them, I'll put some questions to you guys:



How hard are they to build, what sorts of tools will I need?



Can I order a complete package from them with everything? I mean, is it like a supersized model airplane kit?



How long to build one?



Is it possible to look at a construction manual just to get an idea of what the steps are and what it's like to build one?



What are all the options they list, some are obvious, others not.



Any idea of a ball park cost for building a tri-gear (boo-hiss) with basic VFR instruments and a 912?  If I add up what I know I want on the order form on their site, the basic firewall back is about 22K.  What is a good guess to add to that to complete it?

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dan(at)azshowersolutions.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: Building a new Fox

Sounds like you have an interest <g>

  To answer some of your questions...Yes, they are probably very busy right now so keep trying them. 

   

  Many of the other guys that are flying could probably attest to all the costs when all is said and done better than I can. I am currently building a IV-912s tri-gear (which is the 100 horse). I am doing several modifications which of course takes more time and $. I'm doing a web build site (when I have time to build) that you could take a look at  www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html 

   

  How hard are they to build, what sorts of tools will I need?

  In my opinion the Kit Fox is an easy build. It just takes the time to devote to getting it done. I teach Industrial Tech classes at  a Jr. High and believe if you have an interest in building stuff and enjoy it...you will do fine. 

  It would be difficult to list all the tools here, however, a good assortment of basic hand tools, a band saw, drill press, dremmel-type tool, and maybe a modest air compressor. Of course there are a few specialized tools that make things easier, but you can get by with many things you probably already have.

   

   

  Can I order a complete package from them with everything? I mean, is it like a supersized model airplane kit?

I believe John said a few weeks ago that he had a few complete kits ready to go. John is also a dealer for the Rotax engine. Yep, just like a big airplane kit. :>)

   

  How long to build one?

  I think the better question here is how many hours do they generally take? Every plane is different but I would say realistically look at between 900 and 1000 hours. I'm sure others may debate that.

   

   

  Is it possible to look at a construction manual just to get an idea of what the steps are and what it's like to build one?

  I'm sure John can help you with that, however, I could mail or fax you a section of a manual if you would like.

   

  What are all the options they list, some are obvious, others  not.

  Wait for John...he has been developing and adding things for the new company and many of us don't know the answer to that.



  Any idea of a ball park cost for building a tri-gear (boo-hiss) with basic VFR instruments and a 912? If I add up what I know I want on the order form on their site, the basic firewall back is about 22K. What is a good guess to add to that to complete it?

In my opinion...$50K would probably be real close. However, it could probably be done for less if you look for deals and keep it simple.

   

  Hope that helps,

  Dan B

  Mesa, AZ

   

  

 

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rjdaugh(at)rapidnet.com
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: Building a new Fox

Spudnuts,

You have gotten some very good answers from Dan.  I have a different answer in one area.



I took over 2000 hours and five years to build my fox.  It is not a minor undertaking.  You have to be 

committed!  (probably all fox builders should be, but that is getting off the subject!)  I had one year that I could 

find very little time to work on it.  I really enjoyed it and may do it again, but for now I am having too much fun 

flying.



Randy series 5/7



On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:33 , Dan Billingsley <dan(at)azshowersolutions.com> sent:



 	  Quote: 	
		  Sounds like you have an interest <g>  To answer some of your questions...Yes, they are probably very busy 

right now so keep trying them.      Many of the other guys that are flying could probably attest to all the costs 
	


when all is said and done better than I can. I am currently building a IV-912s tri-gear (which is the 100 horse). I 

am doing several modifications which of course takes more time and $. I'm doing a web build site (when I have 

time to build) that you could take a look at  www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html      How hard are they to 

build, what sorts of tools will I need?  In my opinion the Kit Fox is an easy build. It just takes the time to devote 

to getting it done. I teach Industrial Tech classes at

 	  Quote: 	
		   a Jr. High and believe if you have an interest in building stuff and enjoy it...you will do fine.   It would be 

difficult to list all the tools here, however, a good assortment of basic hand tools, a band saw, drill press, 
	


dremmel-type tool, and maybe a modest air compressor. Of course there are a few specialized tools that make 

things easier, but you can get by with many things you probably already have.        Can I order a complete 

package from them with everything? I mean, is it like a supersized model airplane kit?

 	  Quote: 	
		  I believe John said a few weeks ago that he had a few complete kits ready to go. John is also a dealer for the 

Rotax engine. Yep, just like a big airplane kit. :>)     How long to build one?  I think the better question here is 
	


how many hours do they generally take? Every plane is different but I would say realistically look at between 

900 and 1000 hours. I'm sure others may debate that.        Is it possible to look at a construction manual just 

to get an idea of what the steps are and what it's like to build one?  I'm sure John can help you with that, 

however, I could mail or fax you a section of a manual if you would like.     What are all the options they list, 

some are obvious, others

 	  Quote: 	
		   not.  Wait for John...he has been developing and adding things for the new company and many of us don't 

know the answer to that.
	


 	  Quote: 	
		    Any idea of a ball park cost for building a tri-gear (boo-hiss) with basic VFR instruments and a 912? If I add 

up what I know I want on the order form on their site, the basic firewall back is about 22K. What is a good 
	


guess to add to that to complete it?

 	  Quote: 	
		  In my opinion...$50K would probably be real close. However, it could probably be done for less if you look for 

deals and keep it simple.     Hope that helps,  Dan B  Mesa, AZ     
	


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MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: Building a new Fox

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		  ...I'll assume they are just busy.


	


Probably.



 	  Quote: 	
		  How hard are they to build, what sorts of tools will I need?


	


When I bought my original kit they said that if I could assemble a 

barbecue grill I could build the plane.  They were right.  You 

probably have a lot of the required tools in your garage already.



 	  Quote: 	
		  Can I order a complete package...is it like a supersized model airplane kit?


	


Pretty much, except that when it's done you'll bet your life on this 

one's ability to fly.  



 	  Quote: 	
		  How long to build one?


	


11 years.  Assuming you have a job, a family, and a life.  Or 6 

months if you have none of the above.  Most likely somewhere in 

between.



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		  Any idea of a ball park cost for building a tri-gear (boo-hiss) with 

basic VFR instruments and a 912?


	


$40,000 give or take $10,000.  There are a lot of decisions to make 

along the way that could alter this figure considerably, but that's 

what I'm guessing for my new one.



Mike G.

N728KF

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