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fultz(at)trip.net
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 Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject: Cover and Finish |
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[quote] Has anybody on the list used, or do you know anybody that has used, STEWART'S AIRCRAFT FINISHING SYSTEM [img]http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714&grpId=4077554&grpspId=1600065618&msgId=13258&stime=1153931815[/img] to cover and finish their tube and fabric plane? This system was formerly known as AIRCRAFT FINISHING SYSTEMS. Thanks.
Andy F.
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bearup(at)ida.net
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: Cover and Finish |
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Andy and all,
I am using the Stewart System right now to cover my Highlander and so far really like it.... A LOT! I learned to cover using the PolyFiber system and have covered a few planes in the past with it, but wanted to try the AFS/Stewart System this time around to see how I like it. I also wanted to try to steer clear of the other MEK based systems (for health reasons). I can tell you right now that there is no way in hell that I will ever use a different system if I can help it. There is no more strong smell and being high as a kite. I can even cover in the house if I wanted to without the wife raising all kinds of hell. The CecoBond fabric cement is an absolute dream to work with and all clean up is with water! This is a water borne system (not water based) and I believe is the covering system of the future. Folks can learn more about this wonderful covering system at the web sites listed below. Note, I am not a distributor for the Stewart's, just a VERY satisfied customer and now good friend. These guys are really great people to work with as well. You will not be disappointed if you follow the directions/instructions
Stan
www.justkitplanes.com
http://www.stewartsystems.aero/
http://www.supercubproject.com/afs.aspx
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kerrjohna(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: Cover and Finish |
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Noel (the other one) of Blue Sky Aviation has used the product and even represented them or a time but due to problems with the product or product support brought him to the point of severing the relationship. The name change may give a hint of previous problems.
The attractiveness of water cleanup may not compensate for other shortcomings.
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| Quote: | Has anybody on the list used, or do you know anybody that has used, STEWART'S AIRCRAFT FINISHING SYSTEM [img]http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714&grpId=4077554&grpspId=1600065618&msgId=13258&stime=1153931815[/img] to cover and finish their tube and fabric plane? This system was formerly known as AIRCRAFT FINISHING SYSTEMS. Thanks.
Andy F.
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bearup(at)ida.net
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: Cover and Finish |
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AFS sold out to the Dan and Doug Stewart who own and operate Stewart's Hangar 21 in Cashmere, WA. That is where the new name of "Stewart Finishing System" comes from. They were the AFS dealers who really know the system best and have had great success with it over the years. As I said in my previous post, it is great stuff if applied correctly. That is the key. They are more than happy to talk you through it or personally show you how to apply the top coats. Another nice thing about the system is that if you don't want to you use their top coats, then you can simply use PolyTone, or whatever. You really should try the CecoBond glue, if nothing else. It is wonderful stuff and so much easier to work with than PolyTac. You can clean it off of your hands when dry by rolling it off with an eraser. This is the same for your clothes as well. Clean up is a snap! I am a true believer that a person should not knock something if not familiar with it. If you have not used the system, that;'s ok, but don't knock it because "he said, she said". That's what has happened to the Franklin engines..... which in my personal experience after flying behind them are far superior to Lycoming and Continental engines.
OK, I'll now get off my soap box! 
Stan
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rjdaugh(at)rapidnet.com
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: Cover and Finish |
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The knock that I have heard about was a short service life. I would sure like to hear from someone who has had it on their plane for a long time. 5 years? 10?
Randy
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Noel (the other one) of Blue Sky Aviation has used the product and even represented them or a time but due to problems with the product or product support brought him to the point of severing the relationship. The name change may give a hint of previous problems.
The attractiveness of water cleanup may not compensate for other shortcomings.
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Has anybody on the list used, or do you know anybody that has used, STEWART'S AIRCRAFT FINISHING SYSTEM [img]http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714&grpId=4077554&grpspId=1600065618&msgId=13258&stime=1153931815[/img] to cover and finish their tube and fabric plane? This system was formerly known as AIRCRAFT FINISHING SYSTEMS. Thanks.
Andy F.
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bearup(at)ida.net
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: Cover and Finish |
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The Piper clipper below was covered and painted in 1999 with AFS/Stewart Systems.
Owned by Dan & Marjie Stewart
This airplane was restored by Dan & Doug Stewart in 1999.
Judged Best in Class Post War Classics Evergreen Antique Fly In 2001 & 2002
Judged Best Clipper
2002 Short Wing Piper Convention - Odessa, Texas
2001 Short Wing Piper Convention - Anchorage, Alaska
1999 Short Wing Piper Convention - Denver, Colorado
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fredshiple(at)sbcglobal.n
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: Cover and Finish |
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I've only had it on my S-6 for 3 years, but I'm already disappointed with AFS' durability. It scratches and abraids far too easily. The edges of defects have to be touched up (sealed) promptly or they will begin to lift. Even after cured it remains solvent senstive. Most cleaners safe with other finishes begin to lift AFS.
Talk with Noel at Blue Sky to get his experiences with the product.
Fred
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