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mjpnj(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 31 Msgs - 08/23/06 |
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Hey Paul,
| Quote: | Yes I remember that interchange and its a wonderful example how selective
cut and paste can change what I was saying and its context.
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You know, Paul, it's clear that both you and Bob know more about electronics
than I could ever know or for that matter probably would ever want to know.
The thing is in Bob's posts he writes in such a way that dang near 100% of
it makes sense to a electronics near-luddite like me. In addition, his
explanations tend to highlight the underlying basic concepts well enough that
I can start to figure out other things for myself. People with high technical
skills that can actually teach are rare, those that are willing to do it for
peanuts are almost non-existant.
The only thing I've gotten out of this diode vs transorb thingy is that a
transorb may be like a diode and zener together or two zener's back to back.
It seems that even if it's technically better we're probably talking about a 1%
optimization. Even I'm not anal enough to worry about that small an improvement.
My understanding of the purpose of this list is to help people setup their
electrical systems in their homebuilt airplanes. This diode vs transorb,
transorb vs crowbar mental masturbation has contributed nothing to my understanding
of how to setup a homebuilt. It could be that i'm just stupid (but I suspect not)
and that it's greatly helped other members on the list, I just don't know.
I know Bob invites a high level of debate but i'm at a lost of why you continue
to post when on one hand you accuse Bob of twisting your arguments through editing
and on the other hand you're looking for his approval in other posts. ie paraphrasing -
"i know it's a silly application but I expected you to tell me i was right".
Please make your posts more constructive if you want mere mortals like me to respect
your opinion.
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c'ya,
Mike
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wgill10(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 31 Msgs - 08/23/06 |
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I concur...we're not bulding rocket launchers here.
Bill
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From: Michael Pereira <mjpnj(at)yahoo.com>
[quote] --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Michael Pereira
Hey Paul,
> Yes I remember that interchange and its a wonderful example how selective
> cut and paste can change what I was saying and its context.
You know, Paul, it's clear that both you and Bob know more about electronics
than I could ever know or for that matter probably would ever want to know.
The thing is in Bob's posts he writes in such a way that dang near 100% of
it makes sense to a electronics near-luddite like me. In addition, his
explanations tend to highlight the underlying basic concepts well enough that
I can start to figure out other things for myself. People with high techn ical
skills that can actually teach are rare, those that are willing to do it for
peanuts are almost non-existant.
The only thing I've gotten out of this diode vs transorb thingy is that a
transorb may be like a diode and zener together or two zener's back to back.
It seems that even if it's technically better we're probably talking about a 1%
optimization. Even I'm not anal enough to worry about that small an improvement.
My understanding of the purpose of this list is to help people setup their
electrical systems in their homebuilt airplanes. This diode vs transorb,
transorb vs crowbar mental masturbation has contributed nothing to my
understanding
of how to setup a homebuilt. It could be that i'm just stupid (but I suspect
not)
and that it's greatly helped other members on the list, I just don't know.
I know Bob invites a high l Q,
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paulm(at)olypen.com
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 31 Msgs - 08/23/06 |
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Interesting that this message (from Michael) never arrived at my computer.
And no you are not (building rocket launchers) but if there had been a transorb on the aircraft bus (different application than the relay, but another one of the Paul vs. Bob arguments (where Paul; says there is a transient and Bob: says no because I have never seen one) where the alternator was damaged by the defectively designed OV crow bar, dozens of pilots would not have had to replace the alternator and remove the faulty OV device. I recently posted a pix of a repeatable transient that 100% of the time tripped the OV device falsely in my own testing.
As you may recall Vans strongly asked builders to REMOVE the OV device as it was damaging the alternators with false trips. Told to me by the GM at Vans at the time.
This was discussed at length a couple of years ago so there is no need to recycle it now.
My point is on other lists a simple " yes a transorb as Eric suggests is a safer way to go and a better solution". No need to get into a thrashing session etc. That is as technical as it ever needed to get.
Paul
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