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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: KABONG ?

I've had the KABONG handle since the early 1960's so I'm not part of any of  these Johnny Come Lately's. I've had the handle before most if not all of them  were born. 

 I found out the other day that one of my now retired "rookies" was  having a birthday, so having not seen him for more than 20 years I sent him  a birthday card. I signed it only KABONG. It did have a return address but no  name. Mailed it on Tuesday, 6:59am Thursday I got a call from "Buzz", he knew  who sent it & called 411.

 The handle is "KABONG" (all caps) not El Kabong of Hanna-Barber cartoon  fame.

 Do Not Archive.  KABONG HRII N561FS (GBA & GWB)

   



 



 Have been asked that before, here's a "short" response.

While a  Patrol Sgt. on Fontana PD (early 60's) I went to a City masquerade party in  all black western gear, complete with guns. Someone ask if I were the infamous  gunfighter "Quicks Draw McGraw". One of my patrolman chimed in "Naw,   he's El Kabong" (Q.D.McG 's alter ego, Long Ranger mask, black hat,  cape and a guitar). They (my patrolman) used the shortened "Kabong" to  identify me & the name stuck. 

 My use of the shotgun as a baton was the basis of the comment. El  Kabong "kabongs" bad guys with a guitar. While I was a patrol Sgt on Fontana PD  I broke the wooden stocks of two 12 ga shotguns by using the shotgun more like a  baton. First time a guy took a blindside swing at me while I was breaking  up a bar fight. I stuck the barrel in the flight of his fist. He struck it so  hard he broke his hand and the stock hit him in the gut area. That broke  stock #1. A coupla weeks later there was a ten on one gang fight at a  wedding. The ring leader (who I knew) headed for the back door. I was able to  stick the stock between the persons in the crowd at his eye level, he ran  into it and "clothesline" himself. You know one second your running full tilt  and the next your head makes contact with an immovable object & your feet  & butt are instantly above you head.  So much for wooden stock #2.  

 I had a loooong talk with my Chief. It ended with my asking about  getting the city to buy one of the LAPD SWAT team riot stocks for "tests" and  mount it on my 12 ga. They had a solid rubber type that is stock looking  but  it had kind of a molded in "pistol grip" also. It bends and  rebounds without breaking. The Chief only asked that I not charge the city for  any more stocks. We found out that they only came with new Ithaca  shotguns so the Chief/City bought a new complete one. Never broke another stock,  also learned to used the other end which was a lot stronger.  

 No, I never did have to shoot anyone with 00 buck, I think it was because  the perp's believed I really would shoot them and maybe mixed in with a little  of the Kabong legend.

They were right, I would have.

  

 When I started building and posting on the lists with Tom and I used  kabong as a handle. From Bakersfield to OSH I'm remembered not as John H. "Jack"  Starn but rather as "KABONG".

Spent 5 plus years helping in the building of  retired USAF Maj. Tom Gummo's HRII Rocket N561FS. Tom was an F-4 Wild Weasel  with a name and body shape (his words) he was Gummibear. 

 Most So. Cal RV guys have call sign (handle) and somewhere about 10-11  years ago someone asked if I had a "call sign" and I told the story. KABONG  still sticks. Yes, as a matter of fact I do have videos of all the cartoons that  features "El Kabong" .    KABONG

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 [quote]   From:    lynn dingfelder (ding(at)tbscc.com)  

   To: jhstarn(at)verizon.net (jhstarn(at)verizon.net) 

   Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:10    PM

   Subject: KABONG ?

   



   John,

                     From    the Zenith list, what does KABONG mean?

                                                                                                                     Lynn

                                                                                                                     corry,  PA

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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: KABONG ?

Now I understand, and remember the alter Ego of Quick Draw had a name. Thank-You I was trying to think of a meaning for each letter like “ASAP” or SNAFU.   

I didn’t relate it to a nick name like cdngoose  

   

cdngoose  

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: KABONG ?

Mark-

     You don't want to know what  KABONG means in Bob+Tom parlance. Then again, maybe you do!

                                   do not archive

 Bill Naumuk

45%HDS 

Townville, Pa

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: KABONG ?

John and all-

     Accept my greatest respect for  the "Up close and personal" way you got your e-mail "Handle". Zenith builders  are a pretty remarkable crew.

     The shop I work at is on final  for the Erie, Pa. airport and Friday I noticed a slew of Blackhawks filing in  (Probably to refuel) Around the lunch table, someone said "He (The perp) just  robbed a sporting goods store and has over 40 guns. Talk about  dangerous!"

     My observation was "Having the  best deer rifle doesn't mean JS when you're facing chain guns."

  

     I know I've asked it before, but  never got a definitive answer. EAA said you couldn't do it from a sport pilot  perspective.

     HDS builders are also allowed to  build a set of HD wings. I'm not talking sport pilot- can you legally cross  register experimental and fly with either set of wings? I know a number of HDS  builders have considered it.

                                                                                                                                                              Bill  Naumuk

                                                                                                                                                     HDS  Fuselage

                                                                                                                                                              Townville,  Pa.

     

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: KABONG ?

Hi Bill,



 I agree with you completely about the chain guns.  Alas, the Sport Pilot issue is a lot more fuzzy.



 All the issues surrounding registration as an LSA don't play into the limits of Sport Pilots at all.  The determination as to whether a plane is acceptable for Sport Pilot use depends on the plane's performance rather than its registration.  If the plane currently performs within LSA limits then it is acceptable for use by a Sport Pilot.  It is that simple.



 

 Let me move into the realm of conjecture now rather than matters of fact.  I recently read the final accident report involving the death of the Walton heir in an ultralight crash.  It turns out it wasn't a legal ultralight at all.  It had two seats.  I couldn't really make a lot of sense out of the cause for the crash, but it was clear the aircraft was illegal to start with since it was a two seat ultralight.  It was complicated by the fact that it had had a hard landing which caused considerable structural damage.  The owner decided to fix it himself rather than allowing the manufacturer to do the repairs - which they apparently begged and pleaded with him to do.  In the end they supplied the parts and the owner completely blew the repairs.  He didn't install all the parts before flying, and those parts he did install were not properly done.  He made major design changes and failed to actually fix all the problems created in the control system.  HIs fatal crash seems to have been caused by the elevator controls seizing up and preventing him from controlling the aircraft's pitch.  It flew into the ground and got all squashed up along with the pilot.



 My conjecture is that the FAA and NTSB folks really hate the situation created with ultralights and their two seat cousins.  They are going to great lengths to get the ultralight community and particularly those members of that community flying two seat aircraft back into the fold of regulation, pilot licensing, and generally accepted practice of aircraft construction, maintenance and repair.  To do this they have given up complete control over the aircraft design (Part 23) along with medical certification for pilots so long as the operations are limited to two seat aircraft that are not heavy enough to do a lot of damage when they hit something on the ground.  I have seen and heard of examples of great leniency in their determinations related to Experimental LSA.  In one case a newly built KitFox was given a 5 hour phase I flight test period.  In another case, a conversion with a cockpit adjustable propeller was allowed so long as a placard was installed saying "Do not adjust propeller in flight".  



 The bottom line of my whole diatribe is that we spend a lot of time and energy worrying about the nitty gritty details of the new regulations while the FAA inspectors bend over backward to allow airworthiness certificates for anything relatively close to the limits.  This probably won't last forever, but so long as they are getting fools who fly unregistered airplanes that are improperly maintained to change their ways I think the FAA folks will continue to be extremely cooperative.



 Sorry about the long post, but I have been wanting to vent that thought for a while now.



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 Paul

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		      I know I've asked it before, but never got a definitive answer. EAA said you couldn't do it from a sport pilot perspective.

     HDS builders are also allowed to build a set of HD wings. I'm not talking sport pilot- can you legally cross register experimental and fly with either set of wings? I know a number of HDS builders have considered it.

                                                                                                                                                     Bill Naumuk

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                                                                                                                                                     Townville, Pa.

     

 	
 

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