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BasiliereR(at)ci.boulder.
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 Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge) |
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non-synchro nystagmus? cool
| Quote: | >> viperdoc(at)mindspring.com 1/23/2006 12:47:54 PM >>>
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
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One question?
Did you have to tough the wall to walk to the exit stairs after they put on
the brake during spoll down. Kinda uncaged your gyros with the 9g checking
high left 6 tracking the lose of light in your peripheral vision. So turn
your head forward and then down with the onset of braking! Felt like a
complete forward loop in two axis! The airman said my eyeballs were
twitching in two different directions!
Oh and the 106 driver, he went to sleep again in the Fuge...he is the one
with those two huge hoses for nostrils on the training films!
Doc
| Quote: | [Original Message]
From: Sarah Tobin <vorchaser(at)hotmail.com>
To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: 1/23/2006 10:13:21 AM
Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Sarah Tobin" <vorchaser(at)hotmail.com>
Come on doc! the Fuge is a blast! I actually asked to go through it
twice.
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| Quote: | During the 7G pull, I got a little greying just on the edge of the
light
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| Quote: | bar, so I asked to do it again...what can I say...I am a perfectionist.
I
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| Quote: | did it again and got no greying, just had to push harder that is all! 
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| Quote: | They said they had never had anyway actually *ask* to do it again.
Oh, I didn't mention the best part...you get to wait your turn up in a
viewing room, where you can see all of your buddies faces while doing the
Anti-G Straining Maneuver (AGSM)...love that acronym! Anyway, I saw at
least two or three of my buds do "the funky chicken" and pass out....what
a
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| Quote: | hoot that is to watch. It's tough to live down the ensuing callsign!
Smash
>From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
>Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:39:00 -0600
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>--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
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>Walt,
>The centrifuge at Brooks USAF School of Aerospace medicine occassionally
>ask for volunteers for centrfuge rides. I have never heard of a civilian
>getting in the centrfuge unless there is a specific training or
>physiological profile that they want to look at. It being Fri (at) 1800,
there
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| Quote: | >is no way for me to ask the question. The answer is most likely not! I
know
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| Quote: | >you are pulling some healthy G's with your Sukoi and all.
>I can promise you the centrifuge is not anything like G's in the plane.
>They hurt worse! After 2 trips to the "fuge", my fun meter has been
pegged
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| Quote: | >for life!
>Why two trips to the centrifuge you ask...A F 106 driver in my F-15
>squadron decided to put himself to sleep in a pitchback at FL210. He woke
>up at FL430 enough to respond to Rudy Youngman's call's to roll out.
Seems
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| Quote: | >the squadron CC felt that I needed to go to the "Fuge" so I could come
back
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| Quote: | >and better teach anti-G training to the B coursers. Go figure, I was
>already pulling 9 G's and doing damned fine at it in the 310th (my F-16
>squadron) at that time. Besides the aluminum aircraft carrier on goes
there
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| Quote: | >when they are scared shitless!
>The second time, seems the Guard in 1988 required you to go thru the
"fuge"
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| Quote: | >when converting to the F-16, A-10 or F-15. I had been in the 160th for 9
mo
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| Quote: | >at this time. We were converting from F4's to Vipers. Got to make the
trip
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[quote] >to Brooks once again, even though my flight records were anotated for the
>intial punishment and I had the VTR to prove it! Well, now I have two
>T-shirts and two video's to prove it..AGAIN! T-shirt reads "spun dry by
>USAFSAM department of PHYSIOLOGY!"
>Thanks but not thanks. They got all the cardiac and BP monitoring from me
>to last the rest of my Life! They had a hayday with me being a flt
>doc...medical science and knowledge an all!
>TMFI I know!
>Doc
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Fraser, Gus <gus.fraser(at)gs.com>
> > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> > Date: 1/20/2006 4:13:43 PM
> > Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
> >
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser(at)gs.com>
> >
> > Does the same thing exist for a centrifuge ?
> >
> > --
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BasiliereR(at)ci.boulder.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge) |
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"Smash" is gonna kill me for this one but this is the way I remember it...and it was a long time ago in a land far away...a dark and stormy... - oops wrong story.
Prior to her T-3 stuff "pre-Smash" and I did some akro in my -52 to get her ready. One day early in her training she over pulled a loop - probably didn't get a squeeze either - I saw her head drop - she was in the front seat. Me, being me, took the airplane - rolled it inverted - and she awoke in a totally different attitude (45 up inverted) than when she took her nap. Nothing but long dark hair and red nails in the front cockpit for a while until she figured her attitude and handled it - well I will add.
Akro instruction is too much fun - sometimes
Rick b
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Sarah Tobin" <vorchaser(at)hotmail.com>
Yep, sure did have to do that one over the shoulder, that by far was the
toughest of any of the straight on Gs. We looked up and right to a high 5
o'clock position at 5gs and had to move our head to center 12 during the
spinning, then down to low 10 o'clock. Yes, you feel like tumbling
backwards.
Smash
[quote]From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:47:54 -0600
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
One question?
Did you have to tough the wall to walk to the exit stairs after they put on
the brake during spoll down. Kinda uncaged your gyros with the 9g checking
high left 6 tracking the lose of light in your peripheral vision. So turn
your head forward and then down with the onset of braking! Felt like a
complete forward loop in two axis! The airman said my eyeballs were
twitching in two different directions!
Oh and the 106 driver, he went to sleep again in the Fuge...he is the one
with those two huge hoses for nostrils on the training films!
Doc
> [Original Message]
> From: Sarah Tobin <vorchaser(at)hotmail.com>
> To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> Date: 1/23/2006 10:13:21 AM
> Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sarah Tobin" <vorchaser(at)hotmail.com>
>
> Come on doc! the Fuge is a blast! I actually asked to go through it
twice.
> During the 7G pull, I got a little greying just on the edge of the
light
> bar, so I asked to do it again...what can I say...I am a perfectionist.
I
> did it again and got no greying, just had to push harder that is all!
> They said they had never had anyway actually *ask* to do it again.
>
> Oh, I didn't mention the best part...you get to wait your turn up in a
> viewing room, where you can see all of your buddies faces while doing
the
> Anti-G Straining Maneuver (AGSM)...love that acronym! Anyway, I saw at
> least two or three of my buds do "the funky chicken" and pass
out....what
a
> hoot that is to watch. It's tough to live down the ensuing callsign!
>
> Smash
>
>
> >From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
> >Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> >To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
> >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:39:00 -0600
> >
> >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
> >
> >Walt,
> >The centrifuge at Brooks USAF School of Aerospace medicine
occassionally
> >ask for volunteers for centrfuge rides. I have never heard of a
civilian
> >getting in the centrfuge unless there is a specific training or
> >physiological profile that they want to look at. It being Fri (at) 1800,
there
> >is no way for me to ask the question. The answer is most likely not! I
know
> >you are pulling some healthy G's with your Sukoi and all.
> >I can promise you the centrifuge is not anything like G's in the plane.
> >They hurt worse! After 2 trips to the "fuge", my fun meter has been
pegged
> >for life!
> >Why two trips to the centrifuge you ask...A F 106 driver in my F-15
> >squadron decided to put himself to sleep in a pitchback at FL210. He
woke
> >up at FL430 enough to respond to Rudy Youngman's call's to roll out.
Seems
> >the squadron CC felt that I needed to go to the "Fuge" so I could come
back
> >and better teach anti-G training to the B coursers. Go figure, I was
> >already pulling 9 G's and doing damned fine at it in the 310th (my F-16
> >squadron) at that time. Besides the aluminum aircraft carrier on goes
there
> >when they are scared shitless!
> >The second time, seems the Guard in 1988 required you to go thru the
"fuge"
> >when converting to the F-16, A-10 or F-15. I had been in the 160th for
9
mo
> >at this time. We were converting from F4's to Vipers. Got to make the
trip
> >to Brooks once again, even though my flight records were anotated for
the
> >intial punishment and I had the VTR to prove it! Well, now I have two
> >T-shirts and two video's to prove it..AGAIN! T-shirt reads "spun dry by
> >USAFSAM department of PHYSIOLOGY!"
> >Thanks but not thanks. They got all the cardiac and BP monitoring from
me
> >to last the rest of my Life! They had a hayday with me being a flt
> >doc...medical science and knowledge an all!
> >TMFI I know!
> >Doc
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Fraser, Gus <gus.fraser(at)gs.com>
> > > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> > > Date: 1/20/2006 4:13:43 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
> > >
> > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Fraser, Gus" <gus.fraser(at)gs.com>
> > >
> > > Does the same thing exist for a centrifuge ?
> > >
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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge) |
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Yeah, I still can see the stairway up to the control dancing! Almost got a new call sign....Balls- bouncing eyeballs!
I was not toughing (touching) the wall (and it being circular none- the-less!), I was hugging the damned thing!
The second trip was not so bad. Guess hypertension and athrosclerosis help in somethings..kidding. Still did not enjoy the G measles and the hemarthralgias though. Nothing like a little blood spun out in the joint to make ya move slow in the morning!
Doc
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge) |
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And now we know why she wanted to do a second run on the same day. Generally a second run is for those that nearly or did G lock. With alittle coaching most get thru without difficulty. Just a little worse for ware where the G-suit was not compressing the skin. That petechial rash looks great in bathing suit! With everyone at the beach or lake going "what's wrong with him/her? What ever it is, I don't want it!"
Doc
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