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infow(at)mts.net
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 Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: Porsche Engine in a 701 |
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Has anyone out there had the opportunity to install a Porsche Type 4 2.6L engine in a 701? I need some info on an engine mount and building a redrive... perhaps someone has built one.
Ron Leclerc
Winnipeg MB Canada
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:26 am Post subject: Porsche Engine in a 701 |
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Ron,
I don't know of anyone that has put a type IV engine in the
CH701. There are a few Type I-III VW engines with Valley Eng
redrives, made by the Smiths at Culver Props.
One is my friend B.J. Schwaller, he has a 1915cc VW and redrive on his
701. The plane flys weekly now out of Eldon MO. Pictures of his plane
are in Zenith's Builders secton site......
www.culverprops.com
The Smiths build and sell VW engines, redrives for the VW, and engine
mounts for the 701, and of course really nice wood props.
I was just over to their shop on Wednesday of this week. They had just
finished another engine mount for the VW engine and Diel Case for a 701 in
New Zealand and it was being shipped that day. Also word on an IDAHO 701
builder that was just starting to test fly his 701 with the
Smiths, engine mount and their 2275cc VW engine and redrive Culver Prop
package...........So far he is very happy.
In the next few weeks, hopefully still in Sept. another K.C.Missouri
701 builder is also going to install their complete, mount, engine,
redrive, Culver Prop combo in hsi airplane......
Monty Graves
At 09:01 PM 9/1/2006 -0500, you wrote:
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Has anyone out there had the opportunity to install a Porsche Type 4 2.6L
engine in a 701? I need some info on an engine mount and building a
redrive... perhaps someone has built one.
Ron Leclerc
Winnipeg MB Canada
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infow(at)mts.net
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: Porsche Engine in a 701 |
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Thanks Monty
Yes it is a Porsche 914 2.0L engine that I'm building into a 2.6L engine, with fuel injection. I'm also going to add a 2.2 reduction drive so that I can develop the true power(72" 3B prop) of the engine around 5200 rpm(take off). This should give me about 115hp.
So far I have not been able to find anyone who has used the type 4 engine only the type 1. I did contact the folks in Australia, but they are very difficult to deal with - not very nice. On there web site they advertise there redrive for sale for type 4 engines - but when you ask for pricing they won't sell it to you, has to be sold with there engine - they get very nasty when questioned about their faulty advertising.
There are quite a few web sites offering type 1 conversions along with redrives - but only for the type 1. Mind you about 90% of the parts could be used for the type 4.
Some of them are:
http://www.airdromeaeroplanes.com/
http://members.socket.net/~ranchair/
http://www.greatplainsas.com/welcome.html
http://www.vw-engines.com/
http://www.revmasteraviation.com/
I did find one redrive supplier that can supply all the individual parts needed along with construction drawing to build one. The only problem is its designed for a Subaru but thats no big deal. Basically all that I would have to have made is a crank hub and mount, which I have done already.. and you can buy it i piece at a time. The company is very easy to deal with, the web site is:
http://www.geocities.com/rfisubaru/rfi.html
Don ParhamRFI Power systemsP.O. Box 263 Indianola, Ok 74442 Phone: 918-823-4610 Fax: 918-823-4690e-mail rfi(at)oklatel.net
PS: I have been in touch with the Smith's. They have a vice setup but it is for the type 1 case. It's nice to hear that the type 1 will work in a 701. I will be building on floats so I need all the grunt at the low end that I can get... and that means installing a redrive. It also helps to dampen any stresses on the crank, which can be a problem with the type 1.
Thanks again for your help
Ron Leclerc
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 03:23:46 -0500, Monty Graves wrote:> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves(at)usmo.com>>>> Ron,>> I don't know of anyone that has put a type IV engine in the CH701.> There are a few Type I-III VW engines with Valley Eng redrives,> made by the Smiths at Culver Props.>> One is my friend B.J. Schwaller, he has a 1915cc VW and redrive on> his 701. The plane flys weekly now out of Eldon MO. Pictures of> his plane are in Zenith's Builders secton site......>> www.culverprops.com>> The Smiths build and sell VW engines, redrives for the VW, and> engine mounts for the 701, and of course really nice wood props.>> I was just over to their shop on Wednesday of this week. They had> just finished another engine mount for the VW engine and Diel Case> for a 701 in New Zealand and it was being shipped that day. Also> word on an IDAHO 701 builder that was just starting to test fly his> 701 with the Smiths, engine mount and their 2275cc VW engine and> redrive Culver Prop package...........So far he is very happy.>> In the next few weeks, hopefully still in Sept. another> K.C.Missouri 701 builder is also going to install their complete,> mount, engine, redrive, Culver Prop combo in hsi airplane......>> Monty Graves>>> At 09:01 PM 9/1/2006 -0500, you wrote:>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ron D Leclerc <infow(at)mts.net>>>>>>> Has anyone out there had the opportunity to install a Porsche>> Type 4 2.6L engine in a 701? I need some info on an engine mount>> and building a redrive... perhaps someone has built one.>>>> Ron Leclerc>> Winnipeg MB Canada>>> - The style="font-size:10pt;">> Features Navigator to browse> Archive Search style="font-size:10pt;">> and much much more: _-> =================================== />> - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> --> > - NEW style="font-size:10pt;">> - List style="font-size:10pt;">> generous support!> >
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steve(at)cccparis.com
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: Porsche Engine in a 701 |
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I have a Porsche Type IV that has been converted for aircraft use ( it was in a KR1) I'd take $800.00 for it (that's what I paid).
Contact me off list if you are interested steve(at)cccparis.com
Steve Russell
701 scratch
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From: "R.D.(Ron) Leclerc" infow(at)mts.net
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:51:54 -0500
To: Monty Graves zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Porsche Engine in a 701
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Thanks Monty
Yes it is a Porsche 914 2.0L engine that I'm building into a 2.6L engine,> with fuel injection. I'm also going to add a 2.2 reduction drive so that I> can develop the true power(72" 3B prop) of the engine around 5200 rpm(take> off). This should give me about 115hp.
So far I have not been able to find anyone who has used the type 4 engine> only the type 1. I did contact the folks in Australia, but they are very> difficult to deal with - not very nice. On there web site they advertise> there redrive for sale for type 4 engines - but when you ask for pricing> they won't sell it to you, has to be sold with there engine - they get very> nasty when questioned about their faulty advertising.
There are quite a few web sites offering type 1 conversions along with> redrives - but only for the type 1. Mind you about 90% of the parts could> be used for the type 4.
Some of them are:
http://www.airdromeaeroplanes.com/
http://members.socket.net/~ranchair/
http://www.greatplainsas.com/welcome.html
http://www.vw-engines.com/
http://www.revmasteraviation.com/
I did find one redrive supplier that can supply all the individual parts> needed along with construction drawing to build one. The only problem is> its designed for a Subaru but thats no big deal. Basically all that I> would have to have made is a crank hub and mount, which I have done> already.. and you can buy it i piece at a time. The company is very easy> to deal with, the web site is:
http://www.geocities.com/rfisubaru/rfi.html
Don Parham
RFI Power systems
P.O. Box 263
Indianola, Ok 74442
Phone: 918-823-4610
Fax: 918-823-4690
e-mail rfi(at)oklatel.net
PS: I have been in touch with the Smith's. They have a vice setup but it is> for the type 1 case. It's nice to hear that the type 1 will work in a 701.> I will be building on floats so I need all the grunt at the low end that I> can get... and that means installing a redrive. It also helps to dampen> any stresses on the crank, which can be a problem with the type 1.
Thanks again for your help
Ron Leclerc
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 03:23:46 -0500, Monty Graves wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves(at)usmo.com>
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> Ron,
>
> I don't know of anyone that has put a type IV engine in the CH701.
> There are a few Type I-III VW engines with Valley Eng redrives,
> made by the Smiths at Culver Props.
>
> One is my friend B.J. Schwaller, he has a 1915cc VW and redrive on
> his 701. The plane flys weekly now out of Eldon MO. Pictures of
> his plane are in Zenith's Builders secton site......
>
> www.culverprops.com
>
> The Smiths build and sell VW engines, redrives for the VW, and
> engine mounts for the 701, and of course really nice wood props.
>
> I was just over to their shop on Wednesday of this week. They had
> just finished another engine mount for the VW engine and Diel Case
> for a 701 in New Zealand and it was being shipped that day. Also
> word on an IDAHO 701 builder that was just starting to test fly his
> 701 with the Smiths, engine mount and their 2275cc VW engine and
> redrive Culver Prop package...........So far he is very happy.
>
> In the next few weeks, hopefully still in Sept. another
> K.C.Missouri 701 builder is also going to install their complete,
> mount, engine, redrive, Culver Prop combo in hsi airplane......
>
> Monty Graves
>
>
> At 09:01 PM 9/1/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ron D Leclerc <infow(at)mts.net>
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>> Has anyone out there had the opportunity to install a Porsche
>> Type 4 2.6L engine in a 701? I need some info on an engine mount
>> and building a redrive... perhaps someone has built one.
>>
>> Ron Leclerc
>> Winnipeg MB Canada
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> Features Navigator to browse
> and much much more:
> - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
> --> http://forums.matronics.com
> generous support!
> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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