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Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.c
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:25 pm Post subject: N-number(REGESTRATION)

Hay all:

I have read a lot lately about decisions to regester or not to regester,

ELSA or Experinental. My two bits: when you fill out form 8050-88 or

8050-88A and form 8050-1 you might consider your name you put in the

aircraft manufacturer box. Rather than your full name you might consider

an initial and last name. Maybe the middle initial and last name? Drop

the middle initial and use first initial and last name?  The address is

a postal box. You are the manufacturer, and upon sale the prop is

removed with photo documentation. Pictures of the manufacturers

recommended prop bolts removed and tagged. The manufacturer keeps the

bolts. Picture documentation of the plane without the prop mounted. If

anyone ever fly's the plane without the recommended bolts that the

manufacturer still has someone mush have replaced them without the

recommendation of the manufacturer. In our litigation society if some

one steels your plane or you sell it and something bad happens the

attorneys come right to the manufacturer. I was with a DAR today and he

made this comment, although it's too late for me I thought I would Pass

it along

Uncle craig



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jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: N-number(REGESTRATION)

Craig, If I get your goal, it's to keep your ties to the aircraft to a minimum in the event you want to sell it. 

I'll give you the short version of two hours spent with a lawyer discussing liability. 

You are wasting your effort.  

"If a client wants to file a lawsuit alleging negligence, I'm going to go through the aircraft log books and name every one whose name is there." 

"I may have no interest in suing a particular mechanic, but I'll name everyone at first and see what shakes out."  

"Obviously, my goal is to get to the deep pockets."

Those were just some of the insights.

Simple protection, there are a few things you can do to mitigate your liability.

1. Do good work. Maintain your aircraft as though your life depended upon it. 

2. Let someone else do the annuals. That person signs his name and certifies the aircraft is in conditon for safe operation.

3. Sell the aircraft to a dealer. He has deeper pockets than you, generally.

Is there absolute protection, no. There are many things you can do, but they may have other drawbacks. Go spend a couple of hundred bucks with a good lawyer and get it from the horse's mouth.  

Think about this, elaborate schemes to try and distance a seller from the aircraft, make the seller look like he has something to hide.

Last, the FAA will not send certificates to a P.O. box.



Rick

 On 9/16/06, Craig Nelson <Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.com (Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.com)> wrote:[quote] --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.com (Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.com)>



Hay all:

I have read a lot lately about decisions to regester or not to regester, 

ELSA or Experinental. My two bits: when you fill out form 8050-88 or

8050-88A and form 8050-1 you might consider your name you put in the

aircraft manufacturer box. Rather than your full name you might consider

 an initial and last name. Maybe the middle initial and last name? Drop

the middle initial and use first initial and last name?  The address is

a postal box. You are the manufacturer, and upon sale the prop is

removed with photo documentation. Pictures of the manufacturers 

recommended prop bolts removed and tagged. The manufacturer keeps the

bolts. Picture documentation of the plane without the prop mounted. If

anyone ever fly's the plane without the recommended bolts that the

 manufacturer still has someone mush have replaced them without the

recommendation of the manufacturer. In our litigation society if some

one steels your plane or you sell it and something bad happens the

attorneys come right to the manufacturer. I was with a DAR today and he 

made this comment, although it's too late for me I thought I would Pass

it along

Uncle craig



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Rick Girard

"Ya'll drop on in"

takes on a whole new meaning

when you live at the airport.  [quote][b]

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Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.c
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: N-number(REGESTRATION)

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard

 Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 6:57 AM

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

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Rick:  

Thanks for the info I think it is good to get as many people involved in the documentation as possible. I never thought of having an A&P sing off the annual. For those of you building your plane it is a good idea to have at least 3 inspections by an EAA inspector through the building process or you will not be eligible for EAA insurance. I’d like to thank Jim and Merrill for mine. The Kolb manual I have in the how to register your plane states that you finish your plane then have a DAR inspect it. I know this is possible But the information I got from my inspectors has been invaluable. .And no my goal was to share information given to me by a DAR inspecting my plane, not to separate me from my plane he just said he has done this on many planes and it was to limit the liability. As I said it’s too late for me my full name is in the builder box on the aforementioned forms.  

Uncle craig  

DO NOT ARCHIVE  

Craig, If I get your goal, it's to keep your ties to the aircraft to a minimum in the event you want to sell it. 

On 9/16/06, Craig Nelson <Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.com (Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.com)> wrote:  

--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.com (Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.com)>

 Hay all:

 I have read a lot lately about decisions to register or not to register, 

  was with a DAR today and he made this comment, although it's too late for me I thought I would pass

 It along

 Uncle craig

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