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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Off topic Beothuck People Reply with quote

I live in Newfoundland, Canada. This is the only place on the North
American continent where, arguably, we do not have any indigenous people.
When I say this I specifically mean the island of Newfoundland and not the
mainland part of out province called Labrador ( French for the Golden Arm )

When my ancestors first came to this country almost five hundred years ago
there was a tribe of Indians living here. They were called the Beothuc or
Beothuck. These people were quite unlike most of the other first nations in
several ways. What I would like to concentrate on here is the fact that the
Beothuck were an ocean going people. They would annually paddle their
canoes many miles out into the North Atlantic to a series of small islands
called the Funk Islands. They also sent raiding parties to Nova Scotia
where they fought with the Mic-Mac Indians who lived there.

In the early years of Newfoundland there was a more or less consistent war
between English, French and Spanish interests. At that time Nova Scotia was
a colony of France. The French colonists brought the Mic-Mac people to
Newfoundland to do a bit of fighting for them. Of course the Mic-Mac took
advantage of this to encourage the French to massacre every Beothuck they
came across.

It wasn't too long before the Beothuck in the name of self preservation
learned to avoid most colonists. However by that time diseases like small
pox decimated their population to extinction...maybe. That's another story.

In respect to our past indigenous people who were fantastic travellers on
the ocean I decided to name the 'Fox the Beothuck Explorer. Some of my
ancestors fished alongside the Beothuck. There is even a story,
unsubstantiated, about a Beothuck, called Jim, who lived with a white woman
for something like forty years. Her children couldn't be considered his
because the church at that time wouldn't even accept this remarkable people
as human.

As a side note: A few years ago the federal government of Canada granted a
group of Mic-Mac a reserve in Newfoundland. I for one who's family has been
here longer than any indigenous person reject that move of the federal
government as a huge mistake. Since that time I've heard that some of the
Mic-Mac people living in Newfoundland claim to be indigenous to Newfoundland
and were transported to Nova Scotia by French colonists. In my mind the
Feds would be better off trying to help the Naskapi and Innu people of
Labrador.

There are many theories about the Beothuck some people think they were a mix
of upper Canada Indians ( Huron or Algonquin) and Vikings. Vikings settled
here over a thousand years ago and several of their colonists, male and
female, were dragged off in the dark of night by people they called
Scalenes. That would account for the similarities between the Beothuck
canoes and the Viking long boats. It would account for their tall stature
and I've heard occasionally Red hair. I'm not so sure about the last point
though. The Beothuck were called the "Red Indians" because they often
covered themselves with Red Ochre to protect themselves from insects as well
as religious rituals.

Hope this clears up the name on the plane..... To any Mic-Mac or other
indigenous people out there we will have to agree to disagree on First
Nations people in Newfoundland.

Noel

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Off topic Beothuck People Reply with quote

My daddy always told me , [ Son if you dont learn something new everyday
then the day was wasted !]. I love your posts keep them up .

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Off topic Beothuck People Reply with quote

On Oct 1, 2006, at 2:04 AM, Noel Loveys wrote:
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Vikings settled here over a thousand years ago

As the Scandinavian metalwork found at l'Anse aux Meadows proves, and
the American timber found in Greenland. Thank you for the story, Noel,
I just love that kind of stuff!
As John's daddy said, not a day without learning something! Today I
learnt that Labrador comes from "Le bras d'or."

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Off topic Beothuck People Reply with quote

At 05:04 PM 9/30/2006, you wrote:
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Hope this clears up the name on the plane..... To any Mic-Mac or other
indigenous people out there we will have to agree to disagree on First
Nations people in Newfoundland.

Thanks Noel. It does. Between you and Michel I'm beginning to learn something!
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