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 Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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Has anyone else seen this AD from Hartzell? As I read it, it applies to the HC-C2YR-1BF/F7496 props we purchased from Vans and is an inspection of the front hub to look for cracks that apparently resulted in a blade seperation from an aircraft. This appears to be an expensive, repetitive AD requiring eddy testing etc. Can one of our A&Ps check into this?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:14 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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Hi,
I've looked up the AD, the AD states :
( )HC-( )2Y( )-( ) series propellers with non- suffix serial number (SN) propeller hubs installed on Lycoming O-, IO-, LO-, and AEIO-360 series reciprocating engines.
The Vans props do have the suffix:" -1BF", this should mean that the props from Vans are exempt from this AD. It is somewhat confusing due to the manner the model number is given as there are two positions for the suffix.
An interesting note on the side for haa haa's, the proposal docket lists an aplicability list at the bottom and the Robinson R22 is listed!!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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HI again,
the props from Van's are not HC- but C- , this is not covered by this AD.
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Gary.A.Sobek
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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Incorrect.
The props from Van's are:
HC C2YL-1BF
HC C2YK-1BF
HC C2YR-1BF
The AD applies.
Check your serial number. The A and B hub have A or B after the serial
number.
Gary A. Sobek
A&P
DAR
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,951 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
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Subject: Re: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:23:00 +0100
HI again,
the props from Van's are not HC- but C- , this is not covered by this AD.
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bo124rs(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:07 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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| Quote: | I've looked up the AD, the AD states :
( )HC-( )2Y( )-( ) series propellers with non- suffix serial number (SN)
propeller hubs installed on Lycoming O-, IO-, LO-, and AEIO-360 series
reciprocating engines.
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It applies to the serial number. Look at that, if it ends in A or B, this
AD does not apply. If it is only a serial number with no A or B sub, it
applies to certified aircraft. These are hubs sold prior to 1991, Van's
current hubs are not covered by this AD.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:38 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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The prop shop says mine is not affected due to S/N suffix "B". Read the AD closely.
Doug Preston
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bo124rs(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:27 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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HC C2YL-1BF
HC C2YK-1BF
HC C2YR-1BF
Just remember guys, these are the model numbers, the YL is an 0320 hub and
this AD does not apply as it is only directed at 0360's. The K & R are 360s.
You have to look at your serial number, not the model number. Clean
serial number, AD applies, A or B sub this AD does not apply. The FXXXX
after the model number only applies to the style prop blades.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
do not archive
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Kellym
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:13 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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What you list are model numbers. What is critical is the Hub Serial
Number, not the model. If it was produced after 1991 it will have an A
or B suffix on the serial number.
There are no letters after the A or B. I haven't looked at applicability
for O-320s, but for O-360s and IO360s using the compact hub it applies
if the hub is the old plain serial number with no letter suffix.
KM
A&P/IA
Dana Overall wrote:
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HC C2YL-1BF
HC C2YK-1BF
HC C2YR-1BF
Just remember guys, these are the model numbers, the YL is an 0320 hub
and this AD does not apply as it is only directed at 0360's. The K & R
are 360s. You have to look at your serial number, not the model
number. Clean serial number, AD applies, A or B sub this AD does not
apply. The FXXXX after the model number only applies to the style prop
blades.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
do not archive
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bo124rs(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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| Quote: | From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:12:04 -0600
What you list are model numbers. What is critical is the Hub Serial Number,
not the model.
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Seems to me that is what I said:-)
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
do not archive
| Quote: | From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:12:04 -0600
What you list are model numbers. What is critical is the Hub Serial Number,
not the model. If it was produced after 1991 it will have an A or B suffix
on the serial number.
There are no letters after the A or B. I haven't looked at applicability
for O-320s, but for O-360s and IO360s using the compact hub it applies if
the hub is the old plain serial number with no letter suffix.
KM
A&P/IA
Dana Overall wrote:
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>HC C2YL-1BF
>HC C2YK-1BF
>HC C2YR-1BF
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>Just remember guys, these are the model numbers, the YL is an 0320 hub and
>this AD does not apply as it is only directed at 0360's. The K & R are
>360s. You have to look at your serial number, not the model number. Clean
>serial number, AD applies, A or B sub this AD does not apply. The FXXXX
>after the model number only applies to the style prop blades.
>Dana Overall
>Richmond, KY i39
>RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
>O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
>http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
>do not archive
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chaztuna(at)adelphia.net
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:52 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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---- Dana Overall <bo124rs(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I've looked up the AD, the AD states :
>( )HC-( )2Y( )-( ) series propellers with non- suffix serial number (SN)
>propeller hubs installed on Lycoming O-, IO-, LO-, and AEIO-360 series
>reciprocating engines.
It applies to the serial number. Look at that, if it ends in A or B, this
AD does not apply. If it is only a serial number with no A or B sub, it
applies to certified aircraft. These are hubs sold prior to 1991, Van's
current hubs are not covered by this AD.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
do not archive
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Dana,
I seem to recall an earlier recurrent inspection on the Hartzell CS hubs. I believe that it was for revision A. Do you know any more about that? Where on the hub do you locate the serial number? I've found 3 different numbers on my hub. One is the model number. One of the other numbers starts with HC, the third with the letter P.
Charlie Kuss
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lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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Problem solved... buy yourself a fixed pitched
Sensenich and put the rest of the money back in the
money market account... 
Darrell
--- Dana Overall <bo124rs(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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<bo124rs(at)hotmail.com>
>From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
>To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15
09/25/06
>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:12:04 -0600
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<kellym(at)aviating.com>
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>What you list are model numbers. What is critical
is the Hub Serial Number,
>not the model.
Seems to me that is what I said:-)
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
do not archive
>From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
>To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15
09/25/06
>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:12:04 -0600
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<kellym(at)aviating.com>
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>What you list are model numbers. What is critical
is the Hub Serial Number,
>not the model. If it was produced after 1991 it
will have an A or B suffix
>on the serial number.
>There are no letters after the A or B. I haven't
looked at applicability
>for O-320s, but for O-360s and IO360s using the
compact hub it applies if
>the hub is the old plain serial number with no
letter suffix.
>KM
>A&P/IA
>Dana Overall wrote:
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<bo124rs(at)hotmail.com>
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>>
>>HC C2YL-1BF
>>HC C2YK-1BF
>>HC C2YR-1BF
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>>Just remember guys, these are the model numbers,
the YL is an 0320 hub and
>>this AD does not apply as it is only directed at
0360's. The K & R are
>>360s. You have to look at your serial number, not
the model number. Clean
>>serial number, AD applies, A or B sub this AD does
not apply. The FXXXX
>>after the model number only applies to the style
prop blades.
>>
>>
>>Dana Overall
>>Richmond, KY i39
>>RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
>>O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
>>http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
>>do not archive
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bo124rs(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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Charlie, look on the side opposite from the model number. The model number
is probably going to be on what I call the neck of the hub. The serial
number is going to the on the flat surface more towards where the front and
back halves join. It will be stamped in both the front and rear halves.
That number is either going to be just a set of numbers or it will end in A
or B. As stated the non sub serial numbered hubs were manufactured prior to
91 and have a different radius from shoulder to neck among other things.
This AD only applies to non A or B. The A is a prior model than the B.
Anyway, the compliance cost on this AD is really minimal. Not really
something to go up in arms about. If I'm not mistaken the A & B are
referred to, in hangar talk, as wide shoulder hubs. If you are still
confused and can shot me an email with a couple up close jpgs, fire away.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
do not archive
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Reply-To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 8:52:01 -0700
---- Dana Overall <bo124rs(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >I've looked up the AD, the AD states :
> >( )HC-( )2Y( )-( ) series propellers with non- suffix serial number
(SN)
> >propeller hubs installed on Lycoming O-, IO-, LO-, and AEIO-360 series
> >reciprocating engines.
>
> It applies to the serial number. Look at that, if it ends in A or B,
this
> AD does not apply. If it is only a serial number with no A or B sub, it
> applies to certified aircraft. These are hubs sold prior to 1991, Van's
> current hubs are not covered by this AD.
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
> http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
> do not archive
Dana,
I seem to recall an earlier recurrent inspection on the Hartzell CS hubs.
I believe that it was for revision A. Do you know any more about that?
Where on the hub do you locate the serial number? I've found 3 different
numbers on my hub. One is the model number. One of the other numbers starts
with HC, the third with the letter P.
Charlie Kuss
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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Charlie,
My prop (HC-C2YK-1BF) has a serial number of CH35210B. The "B" suffix
exempts it from the AD. See if you can find a number like this.
Tim
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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Maybe I've missed it in the thread somewhere, but is there a link to the AD?
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Larry Bowen
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: Hartzell AD 2006-18-15 09/25/06 |
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http://hartzellprop.com/resource_library/pdfs/2006-18-15.pdf
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a link to
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