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PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: 6/6A getting in and out Reply with quote

I'm building a 6A with tip-up canopy and have been in and out a lot
lately working on radio rack, and seat belts, etc. The canopy, panel
and flap housing are not installed. I had the seats and cushions in.

I'm trying to imagine how to get in and out gracefully without kicking
anything once the whole thing is put together. I will be installing the
vertical support from the fuel selector valve to the bottom center of
the panel which looks to be a nasty obstacle. It looks like it's going
to be pretty awkward. I can do deep knee bends easily, so I don't think
I'm lacking strength or flexibility.

I'm guessing I just haven't found the best way yet. Do you stand on the
seat and do a deep knee bend and then extricate your feet from under
you? Can you put much weight on the elect. flap housing? I am
assuming the floor forward of the main spar cannot support much weight.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: 6/6A getting in and out Reply with quote

The forward bottom skin can take your weight. I usually try to keep my feet
on the stiffeners, but if I put a sub-floor in there I'll just have to guess
where they are. I have stood on the skin itself; the .040 skin secured at
the edges with rivets and with stiffeners installed does not buckle under
200#s. I would not be surprised to find that it can take two people at
once; Van engineers pretty well.

Pat Kelley - RV-6A - plumbing wings (actually on hold for school)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: 6/6A getting in and out Reply with quote

Try mounting your throttle/etc controls on a panel under instr. panel to
eliminate the vert leg and create much more wiggle space. I also added
floor protection in the form of rubber panels cut from Home Depot
interlocking floor pads. Cut to fit between the angle floor supports. Cheap
at $20 and not only cushion the floor skin but absorb vibration and easier
on your feet. Look good too!

At 01:37 AM 9/25/2006, you wrote:
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I'm building a 6A with tip-up canopy and have been in and out a lot lately
working on radio rack, and seat belts, etc. The canopy, panel and flap
housing are not installed. I had the seats and cushions in.
I'm trying to imagine how to get in and out gracefully without kicking
anything once the whole thing is put together. I will be installing the
vertical support from the fuel selector valve to the bottom center of the
panel which looks to be a nasty obstacle. It looks like it's going to be
pretty awkward. I can do deep knee bends easily, so I don't think I'm
lacking strength or flexibility.

I'm guessing I just haven't found the best way yet. Do you stand on the
seat and do a deep knee bend and then extricate your feet from under
you? Can you put much weight on the elect. flap housing? I am assuming
the floor forward of the main spar cannot support much weight.

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RV-6A , instruments



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: 6/6A getting in and out Reply with quote

sarg314 wrote:
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I'm building a 6A with tip-up canopy and have been in and out a lot
lately working on radio rack, and seat belts, etc. The canopy, panel
and flap housing are not installed. I had the seats and cushions in.
I'm trying to imagine how to get in and out gracefully without kicking
anything once the whole thing is put together. I will be installing the
vertical support from the fuel selector valve to the bottom center of
the panel which looks to be a nasty obstacle. It looks like it's going
to be pretty awkward. I can do deep knee bends easily, so I don't think
I'm lacking strength or flexibility.

I'm guessing I just haven't found the best way yet. Do you stand on the
seat and do a deep knee bend and then extricate your feet from under
you? Can you put much weight on the elect. flap housing? I am
assuming the floor forward of the main spar cannot support much weight.

Getting in and out of any RV requires flexibility that most of us
possess. Occasionally an elderly passenger will have difficulty but if
the passenger can get onto the wing, they can be coached into the cabin.
The tip-up is a little more difficult since the passenger can't grab the
canopy or panel.

Like you I have the control console in my RV6 and it in no way hinders
getting into the plane. The only time the console is a problem is when
you crawl headfirst under the panel, it is difficult to get both arms
past the console at the same time. But I still find the location of the
controls to be convenient and I think you will enjoy the console.

Yep, technique is required for smooth entries and exits. I stand on the
wingwalk, then place my right foot in the seat just to the right of the
stick. The right hand is on the rollbar as I slide over to the seat and
"sit" on the top of the seatback. The left foot is brought into the
cabin and then it is just a graceful little slide down the seatback and
into flight position. It happens quicker than you can read this. Smile

Getting out requires a little more effort. Left hand on the fuse side
rail, right hand on top of the right seat back, push up with your feet
while sliding up the seatback until the right foot is in the seat, then
swing left foot out onto the wing. The floor will support your weight
and the flap housing is plenty strong. Matter of fact, you can grab
about anything but the panel or canopy.

You can do it..........hundreds of RV pilots have gone before you! Smile

Sam Buchanan (RV-6, 780 hrs)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: 6/6A getting in and out Reply with quote

Sounds good. I'll remember this the next time I get into an RV.  Now, can anyone tell me how to easily get into and out of the front seat of the Aeronca Champ I am taking tailwheel lessons in? I'm 6 ft tall, weigh 225 lb, and am 71 years old.

Jim Hasper

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In a message dated 9/25/2006 8:58:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCPower.com writes:
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Tom,

I find that just stepping in with the left foot on the landing gear bracket,
left-hand on the top of the instrument panel, and right hand on the roll bar
work great. Then it's just sliding down the seat to a sitting position....

Fred Stucklen
RV-6A N926RV
Building an RV-7A



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: 6/6A getting in and out Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: 6/6A getting in and out Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies to my question. I'm afraid I'm stuck with
the center console - the instrument panel is nearly done and was
designed on the assumption that the console would be there to hold
various things.

It sounds like when the elect. flaps and seats are installed, it will be
easy to get in and out.
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