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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

I am assembling my radio stack.
The supports to holding the radio trays together are AL angle.
Do the screws holding the whole assy together have to be brass?
I only have metal.
Regards
Chris


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

Chris
Most Stainless Steel alloys are not magnetic either, so that could also be used. Take a magnet with you to the vendor. Check a sample of a SS screw to make sure it's not magnetic, before you buy it. I also used Stainless Steel nutplates on my panel for that reason.
Charlie Kuss


[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Chris Byrne" <jack.byrne(at)bigpond.com>

I am assembling my radio stack.
The supports to holding the radio trays together are AL angle.
Do the screws holding the whole assy together have to be brass?
I only have metal.


Regards
Chris


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

H i Charlie,
I was just going to contact you when I saw this e-mail. I send you a money order for the replacement o-rings for the brake system of my RV7 about 5 weeks ago but have not received the rings. I am wondering if you received the money.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

Where does one buy stainless nutplates?

Bevan

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Chris
Most Stainless Steel alloys are not magnetic either, so that could also be used. Take a magnet with you to the vendor. Check a sample of a SS screw to make sure it's not magnetic, before you buy it. I also used Stainless Steel nutplates on my panel for that reason.
Charlie Kuss
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I am assembling my radio stack.
The supports to holding the radio trays together are AL angle.
Do the screws holding the whole assy together have to be brass?
I only have metal.
Regards
Chris
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:04 am    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

Bevan,
The first step is to know the part number for the SS parts. This is actually rather simple. You simply add one to the last digit of the more common MS part number (The K1000 numbers used by Vans Aircraft are actually part of an obsolete numbering system). As an example, a common nutplate (old system calls them K1000) is the MS21047-xxx (x denoting the screw hole size). The SS version of this nutplate would be MS21048-xxx.
I purchased my SS nutplates from M&M Aerospace Hardware. M&M has 5 locations around the country. They are geared towards selling to aviation professionals, but will sell to individuals. Early last year I made a "group purchase" of these SS nutplates for people on the Yahoo RV8 List. I did this because M&M offers pricing discounts when hardware is ordered in lots of 100. The discount is very significant. M&M's web site is below.

http://www.mmaero.com/us/index.cfm

M&M carries all the "hard to find" stuff that other vendors don't have.

Charlie



[quote] Where does one buy stainless nutplates?

Bevan

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Chris
Most Stainless Steel alloys are not magnetic either, so that could also be used. Take a magnet with you to the vendor. Check a sample of a SS screw to make sure it's not magnetic, before you buy it. I also used Stainless Steel nutplates on my panel for that reason.
Charlie Kuss


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I am assembling my radio stack.
The supports to holding the radio trays together are AL angle.
Do the screws holding the whole assy together have to be brass?
I only have metal.


Regards
Chris


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

What am I missing? What difference does it make whether the screws or
nutplates are ferrous metal or not?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

Electrolysis? Aluminium and brass? Maybe stainless steel might be the
choice.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

John
I'm simply trying to eliminate as much steel and iron from the instrument panel. I'm using a panel mounted whiskey compass. Stainless steel, brass and aluminum do not affect the compass.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

Okay—I see. At least the screws and nutplates don’t move. I think my magnetic compass can be compensated. Seems like even that big hunk of iron just behind the propeller would have some effect on the compass. I guess if it turns out to be a problem, I’ll be going back to this thread to look for those SS parts.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Radio Rack Screws Reply with quote

John
The biggest issue is distance from the compass. Magnetic steels and iron parts are not normally used in the instrument panel. Look at the radio rack trays used. They are all either aluminum or stainless steel for this reason.
Charlie Kuss
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[quote] Okay-I see. At least the screws and nutplates don't move. I think my
magnetic compass can be compensated. Seems like even that big hunk of iron
just behind the propeller would have some effect on the compass. I guess if
it turns out to be a problem, I'll be going back to this thread to look for
those SS parts.



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