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vorchaser(at)hotmail.com
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 Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge) |
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I don't remember this story, but I will push the "i believe button" and go
with it...
apparently I didn't know the AGSM back then.
Always good to practice your AGSM...it's like kegels! 
Smash
[quote]From: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR(at)ci.boulder.co.us>
Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:02:27 -0700
"Smash" is gonna kill me for this one but this is the way I remember
it...and it was a long time ago in a land far away...a dark and
stormy... - oops wrong story.
Prior to her T-3 stuff "pre-Smash" and I did some akro in my -52 to get
her ready. One day early in her training she over pulled a loop -
probably didn't get a squeeze either - I saw her head drop - she was in
the front seat. Me, being me, took the airplane - rolled it inverted -
and she awoke in a totally different attitude (45 up inverted) than when
she took her nap. Nothing but long dark hair and red nails in the front
cockpit for a while until she figured her attitude and handled it - well
I will add.
Akro instruction is too much fun - sometimes
Rick b
>>> vorchaser(at)hotmail.com 1/23/2006 1:21:49 PM >>>
Yep, sure did have to do that one over the shoulder, that by far was
the
toughest of any of the straight on Gs. We looked up and right to a
high 5
o'clock position at 5gs and had to move our head to center 12 during
the
spinning, then down to low 10 o'clock. Yes, you feel like tumbling
backwards.
Smash
>From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
>Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:47:54 -0600
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>
<viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
>
>One question?
>Did you have to tough the wall to walk to the exit stairs after they
put on
>the brake during spoll down. Kinda uncaged your gyros with the 9g
checking
>high left 6 tracking the lose of light in your peripheral vision. So
turn
>your head forward and then down with the onset of braking! Felt like
a
>complete forward loop in two axis! The airman said my eyeballs were
>twitching in two different directions!
>Oh and the 106 driver, he went to sleep again in the Fuge...he is the
one
>with those two huge hoses for nostrils on the training films!
>Doc
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Sarah Tobin <vorchaser(at)hotmail.com>
> > To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> > Date: 1/23/2006 10:13:21 AM
> > Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
> >
> >
<vorchaser(at)hotmail.com>
> >
> > Come on doc! the Fuge is a blast! I actually asked to go through
it
>twice.
> > During the 7G pull, I got a little greying just on the edge of
the
>light
> > bar, so I asked to do it again...what can I say...I am a
perfectionist.
>I
> > did it again and got no greying, just had to push harder that is
all!
>
>
> > They said they had never had anyway actually *ask* to do it again.
> >
> > Oh, I didn't mention the best part...you get to wait your turn up
in a
> > viewing room, where you can see all of your buddies faces while
doing
>the
> > Anti-G Straining Maneuver (AGSM)...love that acronym! Anyway, I
saw at
> > least two or three of my buds do "the funky chicken" and pass
>out....what
>a
> > hoot that is to watch. It's tough to live down the ensuing
callsign!
> >
> > Smash
> >
> >
> > >From: "Roger Kemp" <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
> > >Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > >To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > >Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
> > >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:39:00 -0600
> > >
> > >
<viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
> > >
> > >Walt,
> > >The centrifuge at Brooks USAF School of Aerospace medicine
>occassionally
> > >ask for volunteers for centrfuge rides. I have never heard of a
>civilian
> > >getting in the centrfuge unless there is a specific training or
> > >physiological profile that they want to look at. It being Fri (at)
1800,
>there
> > >is no way for me to ask the question. The answer is most likely
not! I
>know
> > >you are pulling some healthy G's with your Sukoi and all.
> > >I can promise you the centrifuge is not anything like G's in the
plane.
> > >They hurt worse! After 2 trips to the "fuge", my fun meter has
been
>pegged
> > >for life!
> > >Why two trips to the centrifuge you ask...A F 106 driver in my
F-15
> > >squadron decided to put himself to sleep in a pitchback at FL210.
He
>woke
> > >up at FL430 enough to respond to Rudy Youngman's call's to roll
out.
>Seems
> > >the squadron CC felt that I needed to go to the "Fuge" so I could
come
>back
> > >and better teach anti-G training to the B coursers. Go figure, I
was
> > >already pulling 9 G's and doing damned fine at it in the 310th (my
F-16
> > >squadron) at that time. Besides the aluminum aircraft carrier on
goes
>there
> > >when they are scared shitless!
> > >The second time, seems the Guard in 1988 required you to go thru
the
>"fuge"
> > >when converting to the F-16, A-10 or F-15. I had been in the 160th
for
>9
>mo
> > >at this time. We were converting from F4's to Vipers. Got to make
the
>trip
> > >to Brooks once again, even though my flight records were anotated
for
>the
> > >intial punishment and I had the VTR to prove it! Well, now I have
two
> > >T-shirts and two video's to prove it..AGAIN! T-shirt reads "spun
dry by
> > >USAFSAM department of PHYSIOLOGY!"
> > >Thanks but not thanks. They got all the cardiac and BP monitoring
from
>me
> > >to last the rest of my Life! They had a hayday with me being a
flt
> > >doc...medical science and knowledge an all!
> > >TMFI I know!
> > >Doc
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Fraser, Gus <gus.fraser(at)gs.com>
> > > > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> > > > Date: 1/20/2006 4:13:43 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge)
> > > >
> > > >
<gus.fraser(at)gs.com>
> > > >
> > > > Does the same thing exist for a centrifuge ?
> > > >
> > > > --
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:05 am Post subject: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge) |
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Being the professional gynecologist I must say the list may not be
familiar with kegels...but if if you can increase the circulation in
your head with the pelvic floor muscles you don't need to do
kegels !! Thats one hell of a PC muscle !!
I have had a couple of menopausal women in the back seat for mild
acro - maybe I should change my instructions from AGSM to kegels.
I'll publish some video to this google video site when I have some
time and figure it out.
I have about 75 mins of cockpit video with Sergei critiquing my spins
and vertical line. I also have him fly a short routine. I'll have
to put some of this soon.
Herb "doc"
On Jan 23, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Sarah Tobin wrote:
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I don't remember this story, but I will push the "i believe button"
and go with it...
apparently I didn't know the AGSM back then.
Always good to practice your AGSM...it's like kegels!
Smash
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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations (Centrifuge) |
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Now Doc Herb...I do believe the cash cow in your practice is from blood
flowing to a head! I'm not sure that Kegels maneuvers will improve one's
anti-G Straining maneuvers but certainly the perinium maybe tighter for it.
But to enlighten, please explain how Kegel's maneuvers can decrease the
incidence of G lock from uterine/bladder protrussion under G? Considering
under 9 g's the aortic root can elongate as much as 1/2 (1.25 cm).
Interesting thought. Guess we will find out how the current generation of
female fast mover types fair from the gynecological end of the flying in
high G environments. Will they have a higher incidence of urterine prolapse
or cystoceol as they enter their 5th and 6th decades? Would seem
athrosclerosis has protected us ol' farts so far from the cardiovascular
effects of the high G environment.
Viperdoc
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From: Herb Coussons <drc(at)wscare.com>
To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: 1/24/2006 1:12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CONTENT] RE: Altitude Chamber locations
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Being the professional gynecologist I must say the list may not be
familiar with kegels...but if if you can increase the circulation in
your head with the pelvic floor muscles you don't need to do
kegels !! Thats one hell of a PC muscle !!
I have had a couple of menopausal women in the back seat for mild
acro - maybe I should change my instructions from AGSM to kegels.
I'll publish some video to this google video site when I have some
time and figure it out.
I have about 75 mins of cockpit video with Sergei critiquing my spins
and vertical line. I also have him fly a short routine. I'll have
to put some of this soon.
Herb "doc"
On Jan 23, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Sarah Tobin wrote:
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> I don't remember this story, but I will push the "i believe button"
> and go with it...
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> apparently I didn't know the AGSM back then.
>
> Always good to practice your AGSM...it's like kegels!
>
> Smash
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