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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: PIA depicted

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     Spent the day getting this PIA  to the point you see. Remember, this was the EASY skin. About 4  hrs.

 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville,  Pa

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cscsail(at)gmavt.net
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:28 am Post subject: PIA depicted

Bill,

 Looks great, but I noticed you are using what  appears to be a light duty polisher for car waxing. I use a Porter  Cable  6" Random Orbit Polisher with a speed control and a foam compounding  head for the initial work and then use a cloth pad for final  polishing. There are other tools that will do a great job as well, but I  didn't have the patience to use a car polisher that looked similar  to yours.

 Gordon     

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rstone4(at)hot.rr.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: PIA depicted

Hay Bill,

      If you make the  entire aircraft shine like that it's going to be like flying a mirror.  A  shine like that with a little bright color trim would look great.

  

 Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: PIA depicted

Gordon and all-

     My first response got zapped out  by Norton- seems someone wants to change my home page. Big deal- they can have  it.

     I have two auto polishers, a 6"  and a 9". I thought the 6" was a straight up rotary, but it turns out it's an  orbital, too. Regardless of the brand, I would recommend a straight up rotary  for the first pass. Good luck finding one. The bonnets on those that chuck in a  drill don't hold tight enough. The bonnet stays still while the backing plate  grinds itself to pieces. At this point I have more money in bonnets  than the polishers.

     Tim Shank turned me on to the  Nuvite system, and I have no regrets other than the fact that ACS doesn't carry  the heavier F grits. I decided to scrap the fuse side skins and cut new ones  using the plastic coated sheet available from Wick's. I'm not comfortable with  the fact that I had to remove the worst of the corrosion with 220 grit- I'm sure  I weakened the sheet. I figure that I can polish the remaining structure with  no coarser than G6. Between not having to pay $40 for an F grit (If  I could find it) and the time savings of polishing virgin aluminum, I'm  time and money ahead cutting new skins. What the hell, I've got a 50%  scratch-built kit as it is! 

     For those into "Alternative  methods" I repeat my observations. Mother's is the grit equivalent of G6, and  Dupont Polishing Compound is the equivalent of C. Nuvite S may well be in a  category of it's own. I can't say what the corrosion protective qualities of the  alternatives are and don't really care since I'm only using the alternatives far  upstream of Nuvite C and S.

     Good building!

 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: PIA depicted

Bob-

     Yeah, a mirror with dings,  dents, and smileys. I'll just tell people to kick back about 20' and just look  at the big picture.

     Thank God most of my mistakes  are in areas that will be painted!

 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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tshank(at)core.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: PIA depicted

Bill, 

 Just saw this message, it was caught in my spam filter, anyway you mentioned that AS only carries part of Nuvite's line. I buy mine directly from Nuvite either on-line over the phone or this year up at Osh. You might check with them if the F grades are still available. According to their website  http://www.nuvitechemical.com they have F9 and F7 available.

 

 Tim Shankland

 

 Bill Naumuk wrote:

 [quote]            Gordon and all-

       My first response got zapped out by Norton- seems someone wants to change my home page. Big deal- they can have it.

       I have two auto polishers, a 6" and a 9". I thought the 6" was a straight up rotary, but it turns out it's an orbital, too. Regardless of the brand, I would recommend a straight up rotary for the first pass. Good luck finding one. The bonnets on those that chuck in a drill don't hold tight enough. The bonnet stays still while the backing plate grinds itself to pieces. At this point I have more money in bonnets than the polishers.

       Tim Shank turned me on to the Nuvite system, and I have no regrets other than the fact that ACS doesn't carry the heavier F grits. I decided to scrap the fuse side skins and cut new ones using the plastic coated sheet available from Wick's. I'm not comfortable with the fact that I had to remove the worst of the corrosion with 220 grit- I'm sure I weakened the sheet. I figure that I can polish the remaining structure with no coarser than G6. Between not having to pay $40 for an F grit (If I could find it) and the time savings of polishing virgin aluminum, I'm time and money ahead cutting new skins. What the hell, I've got a 50% scratch-built kit as it is! 

       For those into "Alternative methods" I repeat my observations. Mother's is the grit equivalent of G6, and Dupont Polishing Compound is the equivalent of C. Nuvite S may well be in a category of it's own. I can't say what the corrosion protective qualities of the alternatives are and don't really care since I'm only using the alternatives far upstream of Nuvite C and S.

       Good building!

   Bill Naumuk

 HDS Fuselage

 Townville, Pa

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     Bill,

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