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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Fuel savings - was Ethanol and fiberglass tanks - once again Reply with quote

--- John Anderson <janderson412(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Yep, chucked my LAST petrol car for a C5 Citroen HDI
diesel and has to be
one of my better decisions...The common rail turbo
diesel technology has
come so far, performance and economy is over
whelming.....

I agree. The first step is to stop wasting it. Both
my car and my van get better than 30 mpg on the
highway. Yes, not 1/2 pint cars but a van with a V-6
and a BMW 5 sport can get good milage too. And a
D-Jetta can get over 40 and maybe over 50 mpg.

My 4th gear went out on the van north of Atlanta this
weekend. My milage dropped to 29-30 mpg when using
3rd gear to limp home to FLA. That is with a load of
heavy junk in the back too. This is a Olds van. My
old Dodge van of the same size got 22 mpg at best with
a 4 banger. I can drive over 800 highway miles with
the new van on a tank full! I like it.

Since I moved to Fla I have heard advertising for NOT
insolating the attic, but to install other expensive
fixs. The argument was that we only need to lower the
inside temp a little over outside. Well, my attic is
not at outside temp but way hotter. The insolation is
definately required. My point is that there is a lot
of mis-information out there.

Another example: It would take covering the entire LA
basin worth of solar cells to replace the energy
output from only 3 major gas stations selling in LA.
There are 1000's of times that many stations. Solar
is not going to provide transportation for us any time
soon. But it is good for houses.

My engineering friend and I worked this one out: Only
5 cars driving 330 miles each at 25 mpg burn the same
oxygen as 1 million people at 2500 cal each do in a 24
hr day. Walk when you can.

If you want energy savings ideas, check here:

http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid17.php

I have followed them since the 70's. They do pretty
good at finding solutions that work.

Lots more, but this is getting off topic.

Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo

Do not archive

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Fuel savings - was Ethanol and fiberglass tanks - once again Reply with quote

Interesting site indeed Kurt. Bit like the hybrid car thing, when it comes
to the true numbers, just how good are they...

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From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220(at)yahoo.com>
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Subject: RE: Fuel savings - was Ethanol and fiberglass tanks -
once again
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:26:22 -0700 (PDT)

<smokey_bear_40220(at)yahoo.com>

--- John Anderson <janderson412(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Yep, chucked my LAST petrol car for a C5 Citroen HDI
diesel and has to be
one of my better decisions...The common rail turbo
diesel technology has
come so far, performance and economy is over
whelming.....

I agree. The first step is to stop wasting it. Both
my car and my van get better than 30 mpg on the
highway. Yes, not 1/2 pint cars but a van with a V-6
and a BMW 5 sport can get good milage too. And a
D-Jetta can get over 40 and maybe over 50 mpg.

My 4th gear went out on the van north of Atlanta this
weekend. My milage dropped to 29-30 mpg when using
3rd gear to limp home to FLA. That is with a load of
heavy junk in the back too. This is a Olds van. My
old Dodge van of the same size got 22 mpg at best with
a 4 banger. I can drive over 800 highway miles with
the new van on a tank full! I like it.

Since I moved to Fla I have heard advertising for NOT
insolating the attic, but to install other expensive
fixs. The argument was that we only need to lower the
inside temp a little over outside. Well, my attic is
not at outside temp but way hotter. The insolation is
definately required. My point is that there is a lot
of mis-information out there.

Another example: It would take covering the entire LA
basin worth of solar cells to replace the energy
output from only 3 major gas stations selling in LA.
There are 1000's of times that many stations. Solar
is not going to provide transportation for us any time
soon. But it is good for houses.

My engineering friend and I worked this one out: Only
5 cars driving 330 miles each at 25 mpg burn the same
oxygen as 1 million people at 2500 cal each do in a 24
hr day. Walk when you can.

If you want energy savings ideas, check here:

http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/pid17.php

I have followed them since the 70's. They do pretty
good at finding solutions that work.

Lots more, but this is getting off topic.

Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo

Do not archive

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Fuel savings - was Ethanol and fiberglass tanks - once again Reply with quote

I quickly checked what they had to say about lighting.

It is true that fluorescent lighting uses a fraction of incandescent
lighting ..... Once it is warmed up! The first five minutes are another
story. There is another point about incandescent lighting. Apparently
incandescent lights are only 10 % efficient. That means that 90 % of the
power used to produce light is lost... Or maybe not. If your home is
electrically heated and you have your lights on then your 3500W+ baseboard
heaters won't be cutting in as often. BTW they also burn a yaffel of power
when they are warming up. I had an uncle who was a university professor
and a physicist. He once told me that the cost of operating a building
where the lights were never turned off, day or night, was actually cheaper
if the lights were left on. If you had an endless supply of light bulbs and
the building was eclectically heated.

In this location I use electricity only to keep most of the house up to 10C
in the winter. This room I have an oil stove installed which is more than
enough to heat most of the house except during a storm when in all honesty I
don't think anything will work ( too many leaks and a basement garage door
facing the North Atlantic).
My water heater is around fifteen Gal. propane. The pilot light alone (
about 0.05/Da.) will keep the water pretty hot. The only time the burner
cuts in is when the shower or washer is running. I would like to have
tanks put under my floors to recover the heat from a bath or
shower..hummmmm.

I have been looking into wind power. Just for heat on windy winter days.
During windy summer days I'll divert the power to my water heater and turn
the pilot light off. Either that or the world's biggest bug zapper.

Noel

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