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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Hi all,

Here is my Special Zodiac XL 601.

Roberto Brito.
São Paulo - Brasil.

Zodiac Xl 601 Plans.
Jab 3300
Enigma.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Hi all,

Here is my Special Zodiac XL 601.
The first flight will be October 31.

www.airfox.com.br

Roberto Brito.
São Paulo - Brasil.

Zodiac Xl 601 Plans.
Jab 3300
Enigma.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Roberto, most excellent! Send flight pics when you have them. Good Luck!

Terry Turnquist
601 XL Plans
St. Peters, MO USA

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[quote] Hi all,

Here is my Special Zodiac XL 601.
The first flight will be October 31.

www.airfox.com.br


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Roberto,
            A couple questions if I may:
            Who is Air-Fox?
            Is that a constant speed propeller hub on the 3300?
            Did you design the cabin and turtle deck areas yourself?  Did you include roll-over protection?
            What does the RB mean in "ZODIAC XL RB"?
            Nice looking seats!
            Thanks ….
Jeff Davidson
CH 601 HD/Jabiru 3300
Herndon, VA USA


From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito
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Subject: A special Zodiac XL 601


Hi all,



Here is my Special Zodiac XL 601.

The first flight will be October 31.



www.airfox.com.br



Roberto Brito.

São Paulo - Brasil.



Zodiac Xl 601 Plans.

Jab 3300

Enigma.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Nice seats! What do you think of the MGL Enigma?

Here is a bad translation:
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The presentation of the Zodiac XL 601 RB in the fair of Parrots was a success, the persons will want to see him, photograph-him, see the modern colorful Enigma, understand as functions the reverse, know about the first Ballistic national one, that motor was, who did the cowl of the motor, if was a national project, who did, that plane was, many alone saw that was a Zodiac after the people showed And like this were every day.

It like to thank the presence of everybody in the stand of the Airfox, stayed excited and very satisfied in know people that alone to have known in the internet. And it looks that passed many wild animals for know the little plane. ...... In the pictures you go recognizes them did Not imagine that so many friends would pass that way. Very it obliged, was sensational, was show of ball. That is going to work me more and more, by the experimental aviation, put in office more, wanting more, and always with the purpose of cheapen more and more, wanting that anyone can build and his fly own plane, with security, without do of that a weapon. We earn to an I award, and that was alone the beginning. Now we are going to finish with calm what is lacking, do the box of the screen of air, finish of install the Ballistic one, do final inspection, and by ultimo, weight and balanceamento. We are going to deliver that plots marvelous in the hands of our official pilot, Zequinha Hipólito, figure calms, tranquil, with more of 15.000 thousand hours of instruction, is that even, fifteen thousand hours of instruction, flew little the angry one, and stayed alone of stateroom hearing the snoring of the motor, that you ally looks more Swiss clock of the any one another one thing that motor one Jabiru, the bug functions round, without jolts or vibrations. Well, we are going to run several times the trail, follow a script pre established, and afterwards everything will have ourselves trinques, the commander Zequinha leave of the ground and ah aguenta heart, nao I imagine which will be the reaction of our team! !!! In the instant that that happen I notice everyone.

Special gratitude to my members of staff, that for the me are like brothers or sons, without you that was not possible.

An embrace.
<end quote>

and...

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It was presented in this Saturday day 19 of August 2006, the new one Zodiac XL 601 RB, had the presence of all the management of the Abraex and a big number of friends, to the all 140 persons participated of the barbecue promoted by the AirFox Ultralight. It was shown for the participants the equipment that will be installed, the ballistic for-falls and kits partial, still in construction, had still a lecture about security of flight.

That first plane will be equipped with the very new one Stratomaster colorful Enigma supplied by the www.protrike.com.br and with a GPS Airmap 2000c, will have still a Transponder and Radio Microair, supplied by the www.jabirubrasil.com.br

That event was for present the changes made in the turtle deck, canopy and winglets, projected and developed in the own office of the AirFox. Now, we are going to work hard for finish the plane for the big event of Brazil, the fair of Parrots, that will happen of 05 to 08 of October of 2006. We expect that there is complete and finished.
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From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: A special Zodiac XL 601

Hi all,

Here is my Special Zodiac XL 601.
The first flight will be October 31.

www.airfox.com.br

Roberto Brito.
São Paulo - Brasil.

Zodiac Xl 601 Plans.
Jab 3300
Enigma.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

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Roberto,
Very nice. Good luck with the flight testing.
Dan Dempsey

Hi all,

Here is my Special Zodiac XL 601.
The first flight will be October 31.

www.airfox.com.br

Roberto Brito.
S㯠Paulo - Brasil.

Zodiac Xl 601 Plans.
Jab 3300
Enigma.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

I love the canopy design. I like the look better than the bubble.

Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
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From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito
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Subject: A special Zodiac XL 601


Hi all,



Here is my Special Zodiac XL 601.

The first flight will be October 31.



www.airfox.com.br



Roberto Brito.

São Paulo - Brasil.



Zodiac Xl 601 Plans.

Jab 3300

Enigma.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Looks like it is split down the middle into two upward-opening sections: www.airfox.com.br/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/10001/Araras-2006---042.jpg

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

>> Is that a constant speed propeller hub on the 3300?

If it is I wonder if it meets the weight limits that Jabiru specifies.

-- Craig


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Here is a translation with a lot of details: http://tinyurl.com/y85qea

-- Craig

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Roberto's 601 will undoubtedly be one of the fastest because of the
blended canopy to tail, flush riveting, wing root fairings etc.
It'll be interesting to see his flight data when he begins testing. His
would be an interesting variation for Zenith to copy and capture
a much larger market. I think it's exceedingly well done. Did notice
his front fork is on backwards though, because the center of
pivot should be like a caster, ahead of the axle.

Larry McFarland - 6011HDS at www.macsmachine.com

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-- Craig



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

A philosophical question is if it is still a 601XL. Aside from the top skins
(which are composite) those wing-tips are there for a reason. Did you notice
he is not using pulled rivets and using 2024-T3?

"E this is the change most important: we take off the bubble original, that
in pilonagem case was impossible you to leave inside, and made the Turtle
Deck, the Canopy and from above part of the panel in a part alone of 60%
Kevlar and 40% Fibre glass and, in this, the doors will open as gull wing.
Moreover, also it will be more aerodynamic, more harmonic and quicker. Still
bars of protection in such a way in the front how much behind the heads of
the pilot and passenger will be placed."

"Parts of the horizontal and profundor stabilizer, observe exactly that the
folds had been made without the deformation necessity, using plate of league
2024-T3, you unite the airplane all is made of plate 2024-T3, and without
the use of rivet pop, we are using rivet mameado or without head, as in the
RV's. With this we wait to gain a little more than speed and above all in
the beauty of the airplane."

The prop appears to be in-flight adjustable:

"After this he is to place the engine, a Jabiru 3300, with helix tripá of
changeable step (Woodprop), e the reverse, that this way I find that it is
newness."

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Wow! Very, Very nice! I love the canopy and back window. A great look.

Brad

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Hi all,

Here is my Special Zodiac XL 601.
The first flight will be October 31.

www.airfox.com.br <http://www.airfox.com.br>

Roberto Brito.
São Paulo - Brasil.

Zodiac Xl 601 Plans.
Jab 3300
Enigma.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Roberto,

Nice lines to the airframe. Now you got me thinking, do I want to give up the rear visibility for a couple mph? Maybe. Keep us posted.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

OK Mark, now take a deep breath and go to your special place.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Mark has a very good point! To alter another persons design and call it
yours shows a complete lack of ethics. No integrity period! Why anyone would
trust people like this is beyond me, if they had the ability to design a
plane from scratch they wouldn't have to copy someone else's product.

Clyde
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

Mark,
Very valid points, but I have less confidence that a 601 modified to wet
tanks between spars
and flush rivets is going to be problem free. It is a borrowed design
with heavier components
and features that would be better incorporated from design and materials
for an RV. The appearance
is as pleasing as a custom car, but you're completely right if this is
to be a re-sold design. I don't think
this will be a commercial success because borrowed designs often don't
have the engineering available
to get the job done. Cross pollination of light plane to heavy plane is
risky to say the least.

Be interesting to see how it all falls out, so to speak.

Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

After reading the emails in response to this post, I tend to agree.
After getting past the beauty of the mods and learning that the model is
intended for mass sale, I too, am concerned. For a sole homebuilder
such mods would seem to fall under "experimental" for personal
experience and learning. However, using a proven platform to modify
and, without testing, sell the plans or a kit for the same is not
ethical and endangers the lives of others. And...this is a BIG mod!
You can't lower the wings on a Cessna...this ain't a SoCal chop shop.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: A special Zodiac XL 601 Reply with quote

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of ethics.


Hmm, the site says "Zodiac XL 601" all over it. And specifically mentions
Chris Heintz's name.

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