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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

I just got back from a 275.5 statute-mile round trip, which took 2.9 

hours. Included was a .4 hr. trip "around the patch" with a friend of 

mine. Upon return, I filled the tanks to the rim, like I did just 

before leaving. It took 9.5 US gallons. This worked out to 29 mpg, and 

3.28 gallons/hour. All figures were via my GPS. I tried to hold to 

90mph airspeed, and let the ground speed fall where it may. All speeds 

were pretty close whenever I could glance at the gauges...I was pretty 

busy flying the plane in the marginal weather....ok weather according 

to the FSS. I wonder what weather channel they were watching?



Lynn

Kitfox IV Speedster...Jabiru 2200

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dave

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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

Lynn,  Congrats on your first x country.



Hopefully a few more soon.  Do you have a cabin heater ? 



Dave 



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

Well, it wasn't the first x-country, just the first since I cut the 

flight training/flight examiner "umbilical cord", and the first 

out-of-state trip. Yes, I've got two little 6" long heat muffs that 

attach to the front exhaust pipes of the Jabiru engine. They seem to 

work ok for the present outside temps, but I need to seal up some air 

leaks into the cabin before they will be really enough.



Lynn

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On Thursday, October 19, 2006, at 08:38  AM, Dave wrote:



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 Lynn,  Congrats on your first x country.



 Hopefully a few more soon.  Do you have a cabin heater ?

 Dave

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

Lynn



Thanks for the info on the heat muff. You mentioned that you were going to

fit some baffles to slow the air down - have you thought about using

stranded Stainless steel (used for kitchen wash scrubbers) I used this on my

582 muffler heater muff and it worked great. It slows down the air and also

heats up itself adding more BTU's.



When you made your muff did you hinge it - if you can send me a Photo off

line that would be great.



Gary Algate

Classic 4 Jab 2200



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Michel

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

On Oct 19, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Algate wrote:

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		    - have you thought about using stranded Stainless steel (used for 

 kitchen wash scrubbers)


	


Amazing! This is EXACTLY what I did with my Jabiru, last winter, Gary! 

I installed a cabin heater, from the muffler, but the air was coming in 

too fast and it didn't had the time to warm up. After adding a SS 

kitchen scrubber at the cabin's end of the hose, it comes in slower and 

warmer.

.. great minds think alike! 



Cheers,

Michel

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Lynn Matteson

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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

Ooooh, that sounds like a great idea, Gary....photo(s) on the 

way...Yes, I hinged it, although the hinge is more of a means of 

securing the halves rather than a means of flexing the muff for 

installation. What I mean is, I can't put the muff in place with the 

two halves hinged together...it won't clear the obstructions. I have to 

hold the one half in place, fit the other half to it (around the pipe), 

then install the hinge pin, then squeeze the halves together and 

install the second hinge pin.



Lynn

On Thursday, October 19, 2006, at 12:32  PM, Algate wrote:



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 Lynn



 Thanks for the info on the heat muff. You mentioned that you were 

 going to

 fit some baffles to slow the air down - have you thought about using

 stranded Stainless steel (used for kitchen wash scrubbers) I used this 

 on my

 582 muffler heater muff and it worked great. It slows down the air and 

 also

 heats up itself adding more BTU's.



 When you made your muff did you hinge it - if you can send me a Photo 

 off

 line that would be great.



 Gary Algate

 Classic 4 Jab 2200

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Lynn Matteson

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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

That explains why I didn't think of it, Michel.: ) I spent a half-day 

building some internal baffles, and you guys spent a 

half-minute...sheeeesh!  A great idea! I can't wait to try it out. I 

have installed a (temporary) thermocouple lead into the outlet of each 

of my heat muffs, and I can read what the air temp is coming out of the 

muffs. I can experiment with different types of baffles and learn what 

helps the most....guess that's what makes this "Experimental Aircraft" 

experimental.

I wonder what copper scrubbers would do? (please, no plastic scrubbers) 

Works for radiators...or it did when they still made them that way, and 

the coefficient of heat transmission is better than anything else my 

"bible" shows other than silver.

Lynn

Kitfox IV Speedster...Jabiru 2200

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On Thursday, October 19, 2006, at 01:03  PM, Michel Verheughe wrote:

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 On Oct 19, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Algate wrote:

>  - have you thought about using stranded Stainless steel (used for 

> kitchen wash scrubbers)

 Amazing! This is EXACTLY what I did with my Jabiru, last winter, Gary! 

 I installed a cabin heater, from the muffler, but the air was coming 

 in too fast and it didn't had the time to warm up. After adding a SS 

 kitchen scrubber at the cabin's end of the hose, it comes in slower 

 and warmer.

 ... great minds think alike! 

 Cheers,

 Michel

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

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Joined: 19 Jul 2006
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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

If you put your scrubber in the heat muff the air will come out slower and

even hotter.



Noel



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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: Kitfox/Jabiru trip numbers

Thanks Michel - my mind needs all of the compliments it can get!!!!



Gary



Amazing! This is EXACTLY what I did with my Jabiru, last winter, Gary! 

I installed a cabin heater, from the muffler, but the air was coming in 

too fast and it didn't had the time to warm up. After adding a SS 

kitchen scrubber at the cabin's end of the hose, it comes in slower and 

warmer.

.. great minds think alike! 



Cheers,

Michel

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