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gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:00 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?



I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.



Thanks, and Merry Christmas!



Grumpy

gengrumpy(at)aol.com

rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:19 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......



Bob



Sent from my iPad



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

 

 I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

 

 Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

 

 Grumpy

 gengrumpy(at)aol.com

_________________
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:20 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

I don't have one on hand, but have installed a couple. 



Jesse Saint

I-TEC, Inc.

jesse(at)itecusa.org

www.itecusa.org

www.mavericklsa.com

C: 352-427-0285

O: 352-465-4545

F: 815-377-3694



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 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

 

 I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

 

 Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

 

 Grumpy

 gengrumpy(at)aol.com

recapen(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:32 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Getting ready to install one and connect it up to a 420W, MX20, and AFS3400EE.



I am interested to hear any discussions also.....



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rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:59 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Ralph,



Does your 3400 have the "s" processor?  AFS has released several updates to the software to resolve some issues with the NavWorx.  I just installed the last beta version, but I haven't had a chance to fly with it yet due to the weather.    The nice weather days recently seemed to only days I'm working.



Bob



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[quote] On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 Getting ready to install one and connect it up to a 420W, MX20, and AFS3400EE.

 

 I am interested to hear any discussions also.....

 

 --

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N410BL - Phase I
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gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:12 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Bob and Rene,

Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

1.  Reliability of the system.

2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

Thanks - Grumpy 

 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

 There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

 Bob

 Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

> 

> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

> 

> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

> 

> Grumpy

> gengrumpy(at)aol.com 

> 

> 

> 

>

recapen(at)earthlink.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Yes, I have the 's'!



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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: NavWorx ADS-B

[quote="gengrumpy"]Bob and Rene,



Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:



1



3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.



4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.



Thanks - Grumpy 

  

[quote] 



If you intend to use or need the ADSB-out after 2020 you need to have a "certified" (e.g. meets FAR specs) gps position source.

_________________
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:42 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

See below. 

Btw, I have one for sale. 

Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

352-427-0285

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

Sent from my iPad

 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

 Bob and Rene,

 Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

 1.  Reliability of the system.

In my experience it's very reliable. 

 	  Quote: 	

 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

The wiring is simple. The programming is a little archaic, but it isn't hard. The 327 works as a remote so the navworx box gets the right squawk. I don't have experience with the Chelton. 

 	  Quote: 	

 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

Non-certified. For a certified plane the certified version is required. I doubt many of the certified units are going into experimentals. I don't know the 2020 ramifications of the non-certified unit. 

 	  Quote: 	

 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

A cheaper way to go ads-b in/out if you already are running on a mode C transponder. 

 	  Quote: 	

 Thanks - Grumpy 

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

> 

> Bob

> 

> Sent from my iPad

> 

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>> 

>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>> 

>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>> 

>> Grumpy

>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2878

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:52 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

It should work well for you.  It's not too hard to install but will require some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right now.  If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's pretty straight forward.  You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're in a coverage area.  I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for my RV14.

Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being.  It's modular and snap in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module later.

Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you wish.

I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the certified one now.  

Tim

 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

 Bob and Rene,

 Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

 1.  Reliability of the system.

 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

 Thanks - Grumpy 

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

> 

> Bob

> 

> Sent from my iPad

> 

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>> 

>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>> 

>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>> 

>> Grumpy

>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:06 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), I’ll probably be asking you a lot more questions!

It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.

I don’t have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX).  Traffic and radar would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.

What does the WI-FI connect to?  Couldn’t find it on their website.  I use ForeFlight on the iPad.

grumpy

 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

 It should work well for you.  It's not too hard to install but will require some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right now.  If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's pretty straight forward.  You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're in a coverage area.  I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for my RV14.

 Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being.  It's modular and snap in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module later.

 Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you wish.

 I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the certified one now.  

 Tim

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Bob and Rene,

> 

> Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

> 

> 1.  Reliability of the system.

> 

> 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

> 

> 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

> 

> 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

> 

> Thanks - Grumpy 

> 

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

>> 

>> Bob

>> 

>> Sent from my iPad

>> 

>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>>> 

>>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>>> 

>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>>> 

>>> Grumpy

>>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:08 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Which version do you have, components and price?

grumpy

 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:

 See below. 

 Btw, I have one for sale. 

 Jesse Saint

 Saint Aviation, Inc.

 352-427-0285

 jesse(at)saintaviation.com

 Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Bob and Rene,

> 

> Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

> 

> 1.  Reliability of the system.

 In my experience it's very reliable. 

> 

> 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

 The wiring is simple. The programming is a little archaic, but it isn't hard. The 327 works as a remote so the navworx box gets the right squawk. I don't have experience with the Chelton. 

> 

> 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

 Non-certified. For a certified plane the certified version is required. I doubt many of the certified units are going into experimentals. I don't know the 2020 ramifications of the non-certified unit. 

> 

> 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

 A cheaper way to go ads-b in/out if you already are running on a mode C transponder. 

> 

> Thanks - Grumpy 

> 

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

>> 

>> Bob

>> 

>> Sent from my iPad

>> 

>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>>> 

>>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>>> 

>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>>> 

>>> Grumpy

>>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:28 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

I have the ADS600-B. No ARINC, I think. Non-certified GPS. Includes both antenna cables and a GPS antenna. If the shark fin UAT antenna survived the crash, that's included too. $2,200 shipped conus. I'll include as much of the harness as I can successfully pull from the plane. It does have the console port in the harness with about 4-6' of wire. 



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

352-427-0285

jesse(at)saintaviation.com



Sent from my iPad



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Which version do you have, components and price?

 

 grumpy

 

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> See below. 

> 

> Btw, I have one for sale. 

> 

> Jesse Saint

> Saint Aviation, Inc.

> 352-427-0285

> jesse(at)saintaviation.com

> 

> Sent from my iPad

> 

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Bob and Rene,

>> 

>> Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

>> 

>> 1.  Reliability of the system.

> In my experience it's very reliable. 

>> 

>> 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

> The wiring is simple. The programming is a little archaic, but it isn't hard. The 327 works as a remote so the navworx box gets the right squawk. I don't have experience with the Chelton. 

>> 

>> 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

> Non-certified. For a certified plane the certified version is required. I doubt many of the certified units are going into experimentals. I don't know the 2020 ramifications of the non-certified unit. 

>> 

>> 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

> A cheaper way to go ads-b in/out if you already are running on a mode C transponder. 

>> 

>> Thanks - Grumpy 

>> 

>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

>>> 

>>> Bob

>>> 

>>> Sent from my iPad

>>> 

>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>>>> 

>>>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>>>> 

>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>>>> 

>>>> Grumpy

>>>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:29 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

The wifi port won't feed info to foreflight, but if you have the stratus, it will activate all traffic in your area. 



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

352-427-0285

jesse(at)saintaviation.com



Sent from my iPad



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), I’ll probably be asking you a lot more questions!

 

 It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.

 

 I don’t have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX).  Traffic and radar would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.

 

 What does the WI-FI connect to?  Couldn’t find it on their website.  I use ForeFlight on the iPad.

 

 grumpy

 

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> It should work well for you.  It's not too hard to install but will require some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right now.  If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's pretty straight forward.  You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're in a coverage area.  I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for my RV14.

> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being.  It's modular and snap in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module later.

> 

> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you wish.

> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the certified one now.  

> 

> 

> Tim

> 

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Bob and Rene,

>> 

>> Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

>> 

>> 1.  Reliability of the system.

>> 

>> 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

>> 

>> 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

>> 

>> 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

>> 

>> Thanks - Grumpy 

>> 

>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

>>> 

>>> Bob

>>> 

>>> Sent from my iPad

>>> 

>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>>>> 

>>>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>>>> 

>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>>>> 

>>>> Grumpy

>>>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Wifi connects to an iPad running WingX.   There may be other options available, but this is the one I have.



Bob



Sent from my iPad



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), I’ll probably be asking you a lot more questions!

 

 It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.

 

 I don’t have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX).  Traffic and radar would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.

 

 What does the WI-FI connect to?  Couldn’t find it on their website.  I use ForeFlight on the iPad.

 

 grumpy

 

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> It should work well for you.  It's not too hard to install but will require some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right now.  If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's pretty straight forward.  You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're in a coverage area.  I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for my RV14.

> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being.  It's modular and snap in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module later.

> 

> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you wish.

> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the certified one now.  

> 

> 

> Tim

> 

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Bob and Rene,

>> 

>> Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

>> 

>> 1.  Reliability of the system.

>> 

>> 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

>> 

>> 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

>> 

>> 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

>> 

>> Thanks - Grumpy 

>> 

>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

>>> 

>>> Bob

>>> 

>>> Sent from my iPad

>>> 

>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>>>> 

>>>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>>>> 

>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>>>> 

>>>> Grumpy

>>>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

_________________
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler

Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: NavWorx ADS-B

Warning, thread drift!



If you have a cfi certificate, Hilton will give you a WingX subscription for free. Includes geo-referencing.

_________________
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2878

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:57 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

It connects to most except not Foreflight. Foreflight is still in the pig-headed proprietary stage like Garmin.

Tim



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), I’ll probably be asking you a lot more questions!

 

 It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.

 

 I don’t have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX).  Traffic and radar would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.

 

 What does the WI-FI connect to?  Couldn’t find it on their website.  I use ForeFlight on the iPad.

 

 grumpy

 

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> It should work well for you.  It's not too hard to install but will require some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right now.  If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's pretty straight forward.  You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're in a coverage area.  I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for my RV14.

> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being.  It's modular and snap in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module later.

> 

> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you wish.

> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the certified one now.  

> 

> 

> Tim

> 

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Bob and Rene,

>> 

>> Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

>> 

>> 1.  Reliability of the system.

>> 

>> 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

>> 

>> 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

>> 

>> 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

>> 

>> Thanks - Grumpy 

>> 

>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

>>> 

>>> Bob

>>> 

>>> Sent from my iPad

>>> 

>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>>>> 

>>>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>>>> 

>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>>>> 

>>>> Grumpy

>>>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2878

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

Yeah, I saw that this week.  That's an amazing deal and a good way for them to promote it.  It works well.

Tim



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		   On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

 

 

 

 Warning, thread drift!

 

 If you have a cfi certificate, Hilton will give you a WingX subscription for free. Includes geo-referencing.

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:17 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

I have no idea whether it will interface with your equipment, but you 

might (as I am) take a look at the pathfinder.

http://www.fdatasystems.com/pathfinder-remote



Linn



On 12/24/2014 5:03 PM, Miller John wrote:

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 If I pull the trigger and buy one before April (my ACI time), I’ll probably be asking you a lot more questions!



 It sure seems to be the most economical solution for my 10 now.



 I don’t have wx on my Cheltons but do have on my G-396 (XM WX).  Traffic and radar would be the most valuable for the Cheltons.



 What does the WI-FI connect to?  Couldn’t find it on their website.  I use ForeFlight on the iPad.



 grumpy

     

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

>

> 

>

> It should work well for you.  It's not too hard to install but will require some minor pin adjustments on the Chelton depending on what you have wired right now.  If you have WSI weather, there is more to think about but if not it's pretty straight forward.  You should find it plenty reliable, as long as you're in a coverage area.  I've been using one since 2008 and bought another for my RV14.

> Right now I'd skip the certified GPS for the time being.  It's modular and snap in so won't take long to add later and the price will go down on the module later.

>

> Keep in mind that there are more weather products available with FIS-B than what the aging Cheltons can display, but you'll still get the basics and can also use a wifi adapter they sell, with your iPad, to get the other data if you wish.

> I'm going to fly mine as-is for another year or two and then add the certified GPS module. If you just want to spend the money and forget about it, but the certified one now.

> Tim

>

>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>>

>> 

>>

>> Bob and Rene,

>>

>> Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

>>

>> 1.  Reliability of the system.

>>

>> 2.  Ease of installation.  I’mmuch better at sheet metal than avionics wiring.   I’ve got Chelton Sport EFIS, and GTX327 transponder, which appear to work with the system.

>>

>> 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

>>

>> 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

>>

>> Thanks - Grumpy

>>

>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> 

>>>

>>> There quite a few of us on the list that have Navworx installed.   I do.......

>>>

>>> Bob

>>>

>>> Sent from my iPad

>>>

>>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> 

>>>>

>>>> Do any on the list have the NavWorx ADS-B unit installed and working?

>>>>

>>>> I’d appreciate off-line discussions with any who do.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks, and Merry Christmas!

>>>>

>>>> Grumpy

>>>> gengrumpy(at)aol.com

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2878

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:09 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS-B

In the past couple weeks it's been discussed that homebuilts were kind of left out in some of the rules...not that they shouldn't apply but that they simply are written poorly and don't seem to incorporate amateur built airplanes in the same ways other avionics do.  I personally believe that the GPS should perform to certified standards but that some of the standards set for ADS-B as a whole may be overkill. Nobody is really sure what the end result will be, but clearly some clarification will have to happen at some point.  And many people and manufacturers are hoping for some more reasonable specs.  So actually, that's one of the reasons that I think NavWorX has for still offering the cheaper non-certified GPS at this time.  It allows you to get a system running at lower cost before 2020, yet is upgrade able later.  And, they have plans to offer the certified GPS at lower cost later.  So for us with Amateur built planes, they actually still encourage us to go with the regular ADS600B yet. 

I am just glad to see people adopting it, and Amateur built is leading the way.  I think it gives us all some capabilities that every airplane should have.

Tim



[quote] On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

 

 

 

 [quote="gengrumpy"]Bob and Rene,

 

 Thanks for the replies.  I’m interested in your opinions on the following:

 

 1

 

 3.  Do you have the certified or non-certified WAAS?  I’ve been trying to decide which to go with as there is a pretty large price difference.

 

 4.  Any other thoughts you have on their system.

 

 Thanks - Grumpy 

 

  	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 If you intend to use or need the ADSB-out after 2020 you need to have a "certified" (e.g. meets FAR specs) gps position source.

 

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 RV-10 QB

 

 

 

 

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