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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:59 pm    Post subject: Windshield fairing & clips Reply with quote

You can paint the outside area of the windscreen that gets bonded with flat black poof can.  The epoxy will bond just fine.  As Les mentioned, pigment works well too.

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On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 10:27 AM, rvdave <rv610dave(at)gmail.com (rv610dave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Getting ready to pull the trigger on putting the front windshield in.  As I'm going thru the plans I'm wondering how far up the windshield the fairing will overlap the plex?  According to the "tangent" the plans show extending to the door lower glass that would put it up about 3" or more riding the plexiglass.  At least that's the way I'm interpreting the instructions.  Also in photos I've seen of the black tint on the strip of windscreen I haven't seen the clips showing, how do you hide the clips so they are not seen?  Do you lay black epoxy/fiberglass before the clips are put on?  Do you let black epoxy strip dry first before installing clips?  Confused.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 1:28 pm    Post subject: Windshield fairing & clips Reply with quote

I shot a black urethane band across the base of the windscreen about 1/2" above where I planned the last piece of glass layup to finish. The 10th and last strip of glass build you lay up is 3 1/2" wide... so it will finish 1 1/2" above the top of the first strip you lay down (1/2"). Determine where you're going to put the first strip and draw a line from there to where the last strip will finish. You'll need these lines (and probably some in between) to guide you through the layup. Remember that from inside the plane you are looking through the glass at an angle. The black paint must be well about the height of the last layup if it is going to successfully hide it.
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On May 2, 2015, at 10:27 AM, rvdave wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "rvdave" <rv610dave(at)gmail.com (rv610dave(at)gmail.com)>

Getting ready to pull the trigger on putting the front windshield in. As I'm going thru the plans I'm wondering how far up the windshield the fairing will overlap the plex? According to the "tangent" the plans show extending to the door lower glass that would put it up about 3" or more riding the plexiglass. At least that's the way I'm interpreting the instructions. Also in photos I've seen of the black tint on the strip of windscreen I haven't seen the clips showing, how do you hide the clips so they are not seen? Do you lay black epoxy/fiberglass before the clips are put on? Do you let black epoxy strip dry first before installing clips? Confused.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 3:01 pm    Post subject: Windshield fairing & clips Reply with quote

It sounds like you are saying that you paint the inside of the windscreen. If so, then that is an important point. If you paint the outside, make sure that whatever you use will stick well to both the plexiglass and fiberglass, or it could act like mold release and defeat the purpose. I have seen fairings before that you could pull off easily by hand because the bond to the metal and the plexiglass was poor.

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On May 2, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:
[quote]I shot a black urethane band across the base of the windscreen about 1/2" above where I planned the last piece of glass layup to finish. The 10th and last strip of glass build you lay up is 3 1/2" wide... so it will finish 1 1/2" above the top of the first strip you lay down (1/2"). Determine where you're going to put the first strip and draw a line from there to where the last strip will finish. You'll need these lines (and probably some in between) to guide you through the layup. Remember that from inside the plane you are looking through the glass at an angle. The black paint must be well about the height of the last layup if it is going to successfully hide it.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
the finish line is in site.

On May 2, 2015, at 10:27 AM, rvdave wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "rvdave" <rv610dave(at)gmail.com (rv610dave(at)gmail.com)>

Getting ready to pull the trigger on putting the front windshield in. As I'm going thru the plans I'm wondering how far up the windshield the fairing will overlap the plex? According to the "tangent" the plans show extending to the door lower glass that would put it up about 3" or more riding the plexiglass. At least that's the way I'm interpreting the instructions. Also in photos I've seen of the black tint on the strip of windscreen I haven't seen the clips showing, how do you hide the clips so they are not seen? Do you lay black epoxy/fiberglass before the clips are put on? Do you let black epoxy strip dry first before installing clips? Confused.

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Dave Ford
RV6 for sale
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 4:45 pm    Post subject: Windshield fairing & clips Reply with quote

I used the black dye in the epoxy and it worked very well. I don’t remember for sure, who recommended that to me back in 2008, but I think it was Van’s.
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On May 2, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:
It sounds like you are saying that you paint the inside of the windscreen. If so, then that is an important point. If you paint the outside, make sure that whatever you use will stick well to both the plexiglass and fiberglass, or it could act like mold release and defeat the purpose. I have seen fairings before that you could pull off easily by hand because the bond to the metal and the plexiglass was poor. Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
352-427-0285
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

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On May 2, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:
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I shot a black urethane band across the base of the windscreen about 1/2" above where I planned the last piece of glass layup to finish. The 10th and last strip of glass build you lay up is 3 1/2" wide... so it will finish 1 1/2" above the top of the first strip you lay down (1/2"). Determine where you're going to put the first strip and draw a line from there to where the last strip will finish. You'll need these lines (and probably some in between) to guide you through the layup. Remember that from inside the plane you are looking through the glass at an angle. The black paint must be well about the height of the last layup if it is going to successfully hide it.

Jeff Carpenter
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "rvdave" <rv610dave(at)gmail.com (rv610dave(at)gmail.com)>Getting ready to pull the trigger on putting the front windshield in. As I'm going thru the plans I'm wondering how far up the windshield the fairing will overlap the plex? According to the "tangent" the plans show extending to the door lower glass that would put it up about 3" or more riding the plexiglass. At least that's the way I'm interpreting the instructions. Also in photos I've seen of the black tint on the strip of windscreen I haven't seen the clips showing, how do you hide the clips so they are not seen? Do you lay black epoxy/fiberglass before the clips are put on? Do you let black epoxy strip dry first before installing clips? Confused.--------Dave FordRV6 for saleRV10 buildingCadillac, MIRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441620#441620 - The RV10-List --> &n========================

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Windshield fairing & clips Reply with quote

Indirectly related...what about layering glass around top and sides of windshield, like a lot of us have done on the side windows? I read somewhere that there was a delamination problem after flying through heavy rain.

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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:30 am    Post subject: Windshield fairing & clips Reply with quote

Correctly applied fiberglass will not delaminate on the top and sides on the windscreen. However heavy rain will take even the best paint off. The solution is a layer of leading edge urethane tape applied over the finish paint. This is my experience on my 300 mph Glasair III and on my RV10.

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Indirectly related...what about layering glass around top and sides of windshield, like a lot of us have done on the side windows? I read somewhere that there was a delamination problem after flying through heavy rain.




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