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billp(at)wwpc.com
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:36 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

What are people using these days to label wires?



I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them 

under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected 

the label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one 

finds around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm 

looking for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.



I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of 

the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does 

stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What 

size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?



Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that 

will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in 

again?



Thanks, Bill

ARGOLDMAN(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:48 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

Bill, I have one. It is a KROY. Prints  on heat shrinkable  tubing of various types.

  

 I don't know if I would say that the markings are really permanent, however  as I see some scuffing. I don't know how it would last with various fluids. I  used it extensively in the beginning. Since I ran out of the relatively   expensive tubing and am too lazy to reorder it, I have been labeling with  hand written labels with a scotch tape overlay. The clear tubing seems to make  more sense and  be more permanent.

  

 Rich

  

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What are people using these days to label    wires?



I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and    slide them 

under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing    protected 

the label from all sorts of bad things like water and other    liquids one 

finds around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and    I'm 

looking for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire    ends.



I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the    outside of 

the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using    these? Does 

stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the    label? What 

size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22    shielded?



Is there any wire list software that works with any of the    labelers that 

will print labels from the wire list without having to type    it back in 

again?



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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:06 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

I've used two types of shrink-tube labelers.Â  One was a stand-alone device like a label printer, built-in keyboard, etc.Â  It was somewhat limited in what you can print but certainly got the point across.



The other was attached to a laptop and had basic word processing and graphics abilities, and the requisite learning curve.

Durability was never an issue although I haven't tested gas and oil.

Like printers, they both seem to rely more on media sales than hardware for their profit.Â  That was frustrating for a tightwad like me, and the fact that a lot of the tube got wasted as leader and trailer made it worse.

I found I can get satisfactory results using a fine Sharpie on other-than-black tube.

--Dave





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 What are people using these days to label wires?

 

 I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected the label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one finds around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.

 

 I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?

 

 Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in again?

 

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:08 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

PS-its a lot easier to write on if you get rolls of tubing that's ironed flat to begin with. --D



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 What are people using these days to label wires?

 

 I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected the label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one finds around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.

 

 I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?

 

 Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in again?

 

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:26 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

I have a K-sun Bee-3. It's done 4 planes now and still works fine. 

The shrink tube prints just fine and has lasted 3 years now and I haven't notice any coming off or fading. I paid around a $100 IIRC. The cartridges are rather spendy, $35 or so each and you may need 2-3 to do a plane.   

The trick is to print several labels at a time and then manually cut them, otherwise it spools off too much tubing between prints. 

Tim



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		   On May 27, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Bill Putney <billp(at)wwpc.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 What are people using these days to label wires?

 

 I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected the label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one finds around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.

 

 I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?

 

 Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in again?

 

 Thanks, Bill

Jim Berry

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence of deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate it entirely.

billp(at)wwpc.com
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:05 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

David, what labelers did you try? I've       seen some that come with 5' length cartridges. Sounds like an       expensive way to buy heat shrink tubing but then I guess my time       is worth something...

       

       Thanks, Bill

       

       On 5/27/15 10:04, David Saylor wrote:

     

     [quote]       I've used two types of shrink-tube labelers.Â  One         was a stand-alone device like a label printer, built-in         keyboard, etc.Â  It was somewhat limited in what you can print         but certainly got the point across.         

         

         The other was attached to a laptop and had basic word           processing and graphics abilities, and the requisite learning           curve.

         

         

         Durability was never an issue although I haven't tested gas           and oil.

         

         

         Like printers, they both seem to rely more on media sales           than hardware for their profit.Â  That was frustrating for a           tightwad like me, and the fact that a lot of the tube got           wasted as leader and trailer made it worse.

         

         

         I found I can get satisfactory results using a fine Sharpie           on other-than-black tube.

         

         

         --Dave

         

         

       

       

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             What are people using these days to label wires?

             

             I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and             slide them under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked             great. The tubing protected the label from all sorts of bad             things like water and other liquids one finds around an             airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking             for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire             ends.

             

             I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the             outside of the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had             experience using these? Does stuff like hydraulic fluid,             oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size tubing to             order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?

             

             Is there any wire list software that works with any of the             labelers that will print labels from the wire list without             having to type it back in again?

             

             Thanks, Bill

             

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:51 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG Tefzel?



Bill



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 I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence of deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate it entirely.





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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

Yes, they will.



 	  billp(at)wwpc.com wrote: 	
		  Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG Tefzel?



Bill



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 I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence of deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate it entirely.





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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442608#442608

Dave Saylor

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:30 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

Sorry, I don't recall the brands.Â  I do remember they both spit out a lot of unused tubing.Â  Like Tim said, if you print in batches the waste is much less.



--Dave

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Bill Putney <billp(at)wwpc.com (billp(at)wwpc.com)> wrote:

[quote]                   David, what labelers did you try? I've       seen some that come with 5' length cartridges. Sounds like an       expensive way to buy heat shrink tubing but then I guess my time       is worth something...

       

       Thanks, Bill

       

       On 5/27/15 10:04, David Saylor wrote:

     

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		         I've used two types of shrink-tube labelers.Â  One         was a stand-alone device like a label printer, built-in         keyboard, etc.Â  It was somewhat limited in what you can print         but certainly got the point across.         

         

         The other was attached to a laptop and had basic word           processing and graphics abilities, and the requisite learning           curve.

         

         

         Durability was never an issue although I haven't tested gas           and oil.

         

         

         Like printers, they both seem to rely more on media sales           than hardware for their profit.Â  That was frustrating for a           tightwad like me, and the fact that a lot of the tube got           wasted as leader and trailer made it worse.

         

         

         I found I can get satisfactory results using a fine Sharpie           on other-than-black tube.

         

         

         --Dave

         

         

       

       

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             What are people using these days to label wires?

             

             I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and             slide them under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked             great. The tubing protected the label from all sorts of bad             things like water and other liquids one finds around an             airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking             for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire             ends.

             

             I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the             outside of the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had             experience using these? Does stuff like hydraulic fluid,             oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size tubing to             order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?

             

             Is there any wire list software that works with any of the             labelers that will print labels from the wire list without             having to type it back in again?

             

             Thanks, Bill

             

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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:32 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

I don't think so.Â  I ended up with rolls of 1/4, 3/16, and 1/8 for the Sharpie method. Â 1/8 will fit all but the smallest wire you would label. --Dave



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 Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG Tefzel?

 

 Bill

 

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 I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence of deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate it entirely.

 

 

 

 

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:57 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

For the smallest wire you can put a piece of smaller heat shrink on first, then the larger printed one.Â  

 

I ended up not doing any of that.Â  My panel was built by Stein so I have all the markings from his work and on my work now I just pay attention to wire color.

 

Rene'

801-721-6080

 

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I don't think so.  I ended up with rolls of 1/4, 3/16, and 1/8 for the Sharpie method.  1/8 will fit all but the smallest wire you would label. --Dave



 

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Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG Tefzel?



Bill

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I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence of deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate it entirely.





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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:57 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

The tricky thing about the dymo shrink tube size is that it is given as the FLAT width, AKA the printable size, rather than diameter. So 1/4” tube WILL NOT fit over 3/16” wire.

I think a formula that should work is

Diameter = (2/PI)*Width

Amazon claims it shrinks 3:1.

It works great, although the label can be partially rubbed off (lightened) with friction.

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

I work in the industrial automation space.  We are a distributor  for Phoenix Contact located in WI. 



Phoenix has a printing system called the "Marking Box".  There are two printers in that kit - one for terminal block markers (cards of tiny tags) and one for roll material.  The roll material can be placards, wrap labels, shrink tube, and many other types of labels...



Weblink:

https://www.phoenixcontact.com/online/portal/us?1dmy&urile=wcm%3apath%3a/usen/web/main/products/subcategory_pages/thermal_transfer_printers_p-12-01-04/6d229357-988b-41e3-963d-1411a53fb384



This video short of shows the kit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrzzS_tIObg



They have a nice "booklet" of sample materials for both printers, but, unfortunately, not a good way to look at all of what is available on their website.  I've actually just emailed them and asked if there is a decent online resource showing the roll material available.  If I get a reply, I will post that link here, too.



If you can find your local Phoenix distributor, ask them if they print roll material to order (some provide this service or can refer you to a customer of theirs who has the Marking Box).  If so, ask for a sample booklet for the roll material and a catalog.  You can then usually send them a spreadsheet (or, even better, a file for the printer made in the free SW used with the printers) and they can quote you a price to print the job.



If you are in the Upper Midwest (WI, MN, IA, N. IL, ND, SD, NE), I could provide this service, but let me first figure out if there is an easy way to pick out the right material for the job.  Also, what is this worth to you?  What's a fair price for you to send me a spreadsheet of desired labels and me to mail back those labels pre-printed..... (think in terms of what would be an acceptable "minimum charge" and what would be an acceptable "max charge per label")



Another major player in the wire labeling world is "Brady".  Get friendly with an electrician who owns a handheld Brady labeler and maybe they would lend it out.  Those print sticker-style wrap around labels, too.  



If you have any friends that work in manufacturing, ask them for the name of their favorite controls integrator and/or panel shop.  Those folks usually have the means of printing wire labels, too.



One last comment about sticky wrap around labels:  They are available in many sizes and the printers can print very small.  The labels usually have a print area and a clear area.  When you wrap them on the wire, you start on the printed end so the clear then covers and protects the printed part.  These are likely easier and cheaper to use than shrink tubing, but it is important to find the right size (just like with shrink tube) so you don't have a wrap label that is too big.

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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:52 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

I have a Kroy which I bought used on e-bay. Good machine. I paid $75 including shipping. Heat shrink tubing tape that is used is somewhat pricey. You want to  print everything you need a once so as not to have waste. There is quite a bit of space before and after a word is printed. If you have everything printed as a long sentence then the waste is at the beginning and end of that sentence. 

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Sorry, I don't recall the brands.  I do remember they both spit out a lot of unused tubing.  Like Tim said, if you print in batches the waste is much less.  

--Dave 

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David, what labelers did you try? I've seen some that come with 5' length cartridges. Sounds like an expensive way to buy heat shrink tubing but then I guess my time is worth something...

 Thanks, Bill

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I've used two types of shrink-tube labelers.  One was a stand-alone device like a label printer, built-in keyboard, etc.  It was somewhat limited in what you can print but certainly got the point across.   

The other was attached to a laptop and had basic word processing and graphics abilities, and the requisite learning curve. 

Durability was never an issue although I haven't tested gas and oil. 

Like printers, they both seem to rely more on media sales than hardware for their profit.  That was frustrating for a tightwad like me, and the fact that a lot of the tube got wasted as leader and trailer made it worse. 

I found I can get satisfactory results using a fine Sharpie on other-than-black tube. 

--Dave 

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 What are people using these days to label wires?

 I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected the label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one finds around an airplane. I'm doing some  major renovation and I'm looking for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.

 I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22  shielded?

 Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in again?

 Thanks, Bill

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donjohnston

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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:36 am Post subject: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

I have the Rhino 4200.  The heat shrink cartridges are a bit pricey. I pay around $20 for 5' of tubing.  As others have mentioned, printing multiple labels on a single run will eliminate most of the waste. The 1/4" tubing will shrink down to 24AWG nicely. I haven't tried any wires smaller than that.



When I started, I created plain English labels.



http://www.velocity-xl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2013-10-19-IMG_20131019_153845_468a.jpg



But this was going to get expensive. So I created a wire numbering scheme to reduce the length of the labels.  



http://www.velocity-xl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2013-11-06-IMG_20131106_095231_784.jpg

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The downside of course is that it requires a key.

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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 7:05 am Post subject: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

Good Morning All,

  

 If I may add a comment, the very best way to identify a wire is to print  directly on the wire. When I did the wiring for my airplane about ten years ago,  there were several shops that would run out the length of wire I specified with  whatever numbers or symbols I requested. Not sure if anyone is now providing  such a service.

  

 It should be even easier today as the newest equipment has pre loaded reels  of various sizes and it is all computer controlled. 

  

 The machines are way too expensive for a one off builder or for a small  shop, but if you are near a big operator, the new wire marking machines are  really nice and the product is well worth the money they charge.

  

 Heat shrink tubing for numbers will add a lot of bulk to the  bundle!

  

 Happy Skies,

  

 Old Bob

  

  In a message dated 5/27/2015 2:30:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  saylor.dave(at)gmail.com writes:

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		     Sorry, I don't recall the brands.  I do remember they both    spit out a lot of unused tubing.  Like Tim said, if you print in batches    the waste is much less.    



   --Dave



   

   On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Bill Putney <billp(at)wwpc.com (billp(at)wwpc.com)> wrote:

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		            David, what labelers did you try? I've seen some that come with 5'      length cartridges. Sounds like an expensive way to buy heat shrink tubing      but then I guess my time is worth something...



Thanks,      Bill



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		         I've used two types of shrink-tube labelers.  One was a        stand-alone device like a label printer, built-in keyboard, etc.  It        was somewhat limited in what you can print but certainly got the point        across.        



       The other was attached to a laptop and had basic word processing and        graphics abilities, and the requisite learning curve.

       



       Durability was never an issue although I haven't tested gas and        oil.

       



       Like printers, they both seem to rely more on media sales than        hardware for their profit.  That was frustrating for a tightwad like        me, and the fact that a lot of the tube got wasted as leader and trailer        made it worse.

       



       I found I can get satisfactory results using a fine Sharpie on        other-than-black tube.

       



       --Dave

       

       

       On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Bill Putney        <billp(at)wwpc.com (billp(at)wwpc.com)>        wrote:

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What are people using these          days to label wires?



I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet,          cut them out and slide them under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked          great. The tubing protected the label from all sorts of bad things like          water and other liquids one finds around an airplane. I'm doing some          major renovation and I'm looking for an easier way but I still want to          keep track of the wire ends.



I see now that there are tubing          labelers that print on the outside of the tubing. I'm wondering if          anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff like hydraulic fluid,          oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size tubing to order for          18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?



Is there any wire list software that          works with any of the labelers that will print labels from the wire list          without having to type it back in again?



Thanks,          Bill



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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 6:00 am Post subject: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?

 	  BobsV35B(at)aol.com wrote: 	
		   if you are near a big operator, the new wire marking machines are  really nice and the product is well worth the money they charge.

  

Heat shrink tubing for numbers will add a lot of bulk to the  bundle! 	




Do you know what these shops would charge for labeling wires?



The additional bulk with heat shrink tubing is minimal and I mitigated that by staggering the heat shrink tubing when I used it in bundles.

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