 |
Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
rv10flyer(at)live.com
Guest
|
 Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:44 am Post subject: reminder of window options other than Vans |
 |
|
This weekend I was reminded that many may have forgotten that there is the option to get better quality parts from http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ (Desser Tires) than what is in the kits.
I was involved with the front windscreen fitting, when my Vans bought one was warped in the bottom corner. They come pretty close to be ready to install without major surgery. The side windows, I hear, fit right in “as is”. Also Desser is where Vans gets the tires in the kits. If I were doing all this again I would just order the tire package- http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/rv-10-main-tire-package-special-save-10-two-15-600-6pr-retreads-two-aero-classic-easy-flate-tubes/?page_context=category&faceted_search=0. Better tires, tubes and the same price.
I have seen first hand the attention to detail Desser strives for. I gain nothing from this other than knowing that I have told new builders that there are great options, for the same, maybe less, than getting what is in the kits.
If you havent bought the windows and windscreen, I guarantee you will not regret going this route, less cutting, shaping and better glass in general.
Pascal
[quote][b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
jdriggs49(at)msn.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:11 am Post subject: reminder of window options other than Vans |
|
|
I can concur about Desser. Good products. Dan
From: rv10flyer(at)live.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: reminder of window options other than Vans
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 07:40:52 -0700
This weekend I was reminded that many may have forgotten that there is the option to get better quality parts from http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ (Desser Tires) than what is in the kits.
I was involved with the front windscreen fitting, when my Vans bought one was warped in the bottom corner. They come pretty close to be ready to install without major surgery. The side windows, I hear, fit right in as is. Also Desser is where Vans gets the tires in the kits. If I were doing all this again I would just order the tire package- http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/rv-10-main-tire-package-special-save-10-two-15-600-6pr-retreads-two-aero-classic-easy-flate-tubes/?page_context=category&faceted_search=0. Better tires, tubes and the same price.
I have seen first hand the attention to detail Desser strives for. I gain nothing from this other than knowing that I have told new builders that there are great options, for the same, maybe less, than getting what is in the kits.
If you havent bought the windows and windscreen, I guarantee you will not regret going this route, less cutting, shaping and better glass in general.
Pascal
[quote]
===========
arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
===========
http://forums.matronics.com
===========
="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
===========
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
EdKranz
Joined: 29 Dec 2010
Posts: 132
Location: Hastings, MN
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:15 am Post subject: reminder of window options other than Vans |
|
|
I have all the Cee Baileys (Desser) windows in my plane. There was no major cutting required to install, but there was a bit of belt sander trimming on all of the windows to get a perfect fit. From what I've read of the Van's windows, it was quite a bit less work, but none of them just "popped right in". I am very happy with the end results though.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
[quote] This weekend I was reminded that many may have forgotten that there is the option to get better quality parts from http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ (Desser Tires) than what is in the kits.
I was involved with the front windscreen fitting, when my Vans bought one was warped in the bottom corner. They come pretty close to be ready to install without major surgery. The side windows, I hear, fit right in “as is”. Also Desser is where Vans gets the tires in the kits. If I were doing all this again I would just order the tire package- http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/rv-10-main-tire-package-special-save-10-two-15-600-6pr-retreads-two-aero-classic-easy-flate-tubes/?page_context=category&faceted_search=0. Better tires, tubes and the same price.
I have seen first hand the attention to detail Desser strives for. I gain nothing from this other than knowing that I have told new builders that there are great options, for the same, maybe less, than getting what is in the kits.
If you havent bought the windows and windscreen, I guarantee you will not regret going this route, less cutting, shaping and better glass in general.
Pascal
| Quote: |
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
_________________
Ed Kranz
RV10
Finishing
www.edandcolleen.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
civengpe
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
Posts: 105
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: reminder of window options other than Vans |
|
|
As someone who just installed the rear windows, they were a major PIA. I don't know if they were easier than Van's but I had real issues getting them installed. The curve on the plexi did not match the curve of the cabin top and required a lot of force to keep them flush. I ended up having to use ratchet straps and gorilla tape to keep them somewhat in place. Even with all of that, they ended up somewhat proud on some of the edges.
I have dry fit the windshield and have a 1/2" gap between the cabin top vertical flange as well as a gap between the upper fuselage and the plex in several places.
None of these items are insurmountable, but they have definitely required much more work to get them to fit than I had thought.
Shannon Hicks
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com (ed.kranz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I have all the Cee Baileys (Desser) windows in my plane. There was no major cutting required to install, but there was a bit of belt sander trimming on all of the windows to get a perfect fit. From what I've read of the Van's windows, it was quite a bit less work, but none of them just "popped right in". I am very happy with the end results though.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | This weekend I was reminded that many may have forgotten that there is the option to get better quality parts from http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ (Desser Tires) than what is in the kits.
I was involved with the front windscreen fitting, when my Vans bought one was warped in the bottom corner. They come pretty close to be ready to install without major surgery. The side windows, I hear, fit right in “as is”. Also Desser is where Vans gets the tires in the kits. If I were doing all this again I would just order the tire package- http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/rv-10-main-tire-package-special-save-10-two-15-600-6pr-retreads-two-aero-classic-easy-flate-tubes/?page_context=category&faceted_search=0. Better tires, tubes and the same price.
I have seen first hand the attention to detail Desser strives for. I gain nothing from this other than knowing that I have told new builders that there are great options, for the same, maybe less, than getting what is in the kits.
If you havent bought the windows and windscreen, I guarantee you will not regret going this route, less cutting, shaping and better glass in general.
Pascal
|
| Quote: |
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jdriggs49(at)msn.com
Guest
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:20 am Post subject: reminder of window options other than Vans |
|
|
I ended up using small holes in the glass and put clecos to hold. They got filled in of course during the final finishing.
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:56:35 -0500
Subject: Re: reminder of window options other than Vans
From: civeng123(at)gmail.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
As someone who just installed the rear windows, they were a major PIA. I don't know if they were easier than Van's but I had real issues getting them installed. The curve on the plexi did not match the curve of the cabin top and required a lot of force to keep them flush. I ended up having to use ratchet straps and gorilla tape to keep them somewhat in place. Even with all of that, they ended up somewhat proud on some of the edges.
I have dry fit the windshield and have a 1/2" gap between the cabin top vertical flange as well as a gap between the upper fuselage and the plex in several places.
None of these items are insurmountable, but they have definitely required much more work to get them to fit than I had thought.
Shannon Hicks
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com (ed.kranz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I have all the Cee Baileys (Desser) windows in my plane. There was no major cutting required to install, but there was a bit of belt sander trimming on all of the windows to get a perfect fit. From what I've read of the Van's windows, it was quite a bit less work, but none of them just "popped right in". I am very happy with the end results though.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | This weekend I was reminded that many may have forgotten that there is the option to get better quality parts from http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ (Desser Tires) than what is in the kits.
I was involved with the front windscreen fitting, when my Vans bought one was warped in the bottom corner. They come pretty close to be ready to install without major surgery. The side windows, I hear, fit right in as is. Also Desser is where Vans gets the tires in the kits. If I were doing all this again I would just order the tire package- http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/rv-10-main-tire-package-special-save-10-two-15-600-6pr-retreads-two-aero-classic-easy-flate-tubes/?page_context=category&faceted_search=0. Better tires, tubes and the same price.
I have seen first hand the attention to detail Desser strives for. I gain nothing from this other than knowing that I have told new builders that there are great options, for the same, maybe less, than getting what is in the kits.
If you havent bought the windows and windscreen, I guarantee you will not regret going this route, less cutting, shaping and better glass in general.
Pascal
|
| Quote: |
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
|
===========
arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
===========
http://forums.matronics.com
===========
="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
===========
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rleffler
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:43 am Post subject: reminder of window options other than Vans |
|
|
There is usually a flat spot on the door frame that needs to be built up to follow the natural arc of the window and door.
I fabricated "finger" out of aluminum strips and cleco'd them to the cabin cover. I would be hesitant drilling holes in the windows and filling due to potential cracking and crazing issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49(at)msn.com> wrote:
I ended up using small holes in the glass and put clecos to hold. They got filled in of course during the final finishing.
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:56:35 -0500
Subject: Re: reminder of window options other than Vans
From: civeng123(at)gmail.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
As someone who just installed the rear windows, they were a major PIA. I don't know if they were easier than Van's but I had real issues getting them installed. The curve on the plexi did not match the curve of the cabin top and required a lot of force to keep them flush. I ended up having to use ratchet straps and gorilla tape to keep them somewhat in place. Even with all of that, they ended up somewhat proud on some of the edges.
I have dry fit the windshield and have a 1/2" gap between the cabin top vertical flange as well as a gap between the upper fuselage and the plex in several places.
None of these items are insurmountable, but they have definitely required much more work to get them to fit than I had thought.
Shannon Hicks
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com> wrote:
I have all the Cee Baileys (Desser) windows in my plane. There was no major cutting required to install, but there was a bit of belt sander trimming on all of the windows to get a perfect fit. From what I've read of the Van's windows, it was quite a bit less work, but none of them just "popped right in". I am very happy with the end results though.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com> wrote:
This weekend I was reminded that many may have forgotten that there is the option to get better quality parts from http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ (Desser Tires) than what is in the kits.
I was involved with the front windscreen fitting, when my Vans bought one was warped in the bottom corner. They come pretty close to be ready to install without major surgery. The side windows, I hear, fit right in “as is”. Also Desser is where Vans gets the tires in the kits. If I were doing all this again I would just order the tire package- http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/rv-10-main-tire-package-special-save-10-two-15-600-6pr-retreads-two-aero-classic-easy-flate-tubes/?page_context=category&faceted_search=0. Better tires, tubes and the same price.
I have seen first hand the attention to detail Desser strives for. I gain nothing from this other than knowing that I have told new builders that there are great options, for the same, maybe less, than getting what is in the kits
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
_________________
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
civengpe
Joined: 14 Feb 2011
Posts: 105
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:54 am Post subject: reminder of window options other than Vans |
|
|
This was not related to the flat spot and was about equal on both rear windows. When I place them, the top of the glass (or the bottom if I held it by the top) was a good 4 inches from touching the window flange.
SH On Jun 9, 2015 11:46 AM, "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:[quote]There is usually a flat spot on the door frame that needs to be built up to follow the natural arc of the window and door.
I fabricated "finger" out of aluminum strips and cleco'd them to the cabin cover. I would be hesitant drilling holes in the windows and filling due to potential cracking and crazing issues.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49(at)msn.com (jdriggs49(at)msn.com)> wrote:
I ended up using small holes in the glass and put clecos to hold. They got filled in of course during the final finishing.
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:56:35 -0500
Subject: Re: reminder of window options other than Vans
From: civeng123(at)gmail.com (civeng123(at)gmail.com)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
As someone who just installed the rear windows, they were a major PIA. I don't know if they were easier than Van's but I had real issues getting them installed. The curve on the plexi did not match the curve of the cabin top and required a lot of force to keep them flush. I ended up having to use ratchet straps and gorilla tape to keep them somewhat in place. Even with all of that, they ended up somewhat proud on some of the edges.
I have dry fit the windshield and have a 1/2" gap between the cabin top vertical flange as well as a gap between the upper fuselage and the plex in several places.
None of these items are insurmountable, but they have definitely required much more work to get them to fit than I had thought.
Shannon Hicks
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com (ed.kranz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I have all the Cee Baileys (Desser) windows in my plane. There was no major cutting required to install, but there was a bit of belt sander trimming on all of the windows to get a perfect fit. From what I've read of the Van's windows, it was quite a bit less work, but none of them just "popped right in". I am very happy with the end results though.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | This weekend I was reminded that many may have forgotten that there is the option to get better quality parts from http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/ (Desser Tires) than what is in the kits.
I was involved with the front windscreen fitting, when my Vans bought one was warped in the bottom corner. They come pretty close to be ready to install without major surgery. The side windows, I hear, fit right in “as is”. Also Desser is where Vans gets the tires in the kits. If I were doing all this again I would just order the tire package- http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/rv-10-main-tire-package-special-save-10-two-15-600-6pr-retreads-two-aero-classic-easy-flate-tubes/?page_context=category&faceted_search=0. Better tires, tubes and the same price.
I have seen first hand the attention to detail Desser strives for. I gain nothing from this other than knowing that I have told new builders that there are great options, for the same, maybe less, than getting what is in the kits.
If you havent bought the windows and windscreen, I guarantee you will not regret going this route, less cutting, shaping and better glass in general.
Pascal
|
arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
//forums.matronics.com
D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
|
[b]
| | - The Matronics RV10-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
