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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:15 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics

I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding".  All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?   

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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:26 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics

Greg,I think Blitz at the Red Star store can help you with a manual.............Blitz???

Doug

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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding".  All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?   

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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics

The speeds are listed in the Chinese flight manual.  Somewhere. 

Gary.  N22YK



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[quote]Greg,I think Blitz at the Red Star store can help you with a manual.............Blitz???

Doug

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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding".  All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?   

Thanks,  Greg   	  Quote: 	
		  



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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:06 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics

The aerobatic manual for CJs is available and downloadable in the RPA's online store. Go to www.flyredstar.org and click on the store.



On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22(at)gmail.com (clouddog22(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding".  All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?   

Thanks,  Greg   	  Quote: 	
		  



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Mill Valley, CA 94941

415-307-2405



 

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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:08 pm Post subject: CJ Aerobatics

This is from an old post by Barry: 

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		   The question I have is could someone give me normal entry  speeds for

 > loops , rolls etc, only interested in pretty mild maneuvers just

 > positive G entry level stuff. 

Walt, 

Here's what I use: 

Rolls - anything over 100 knots, but around 125 KIAS (around  normal 

 cruise) is the nicest balance of roll rate and stick force required.

 Loops & Cubans - 160 KIAS will give you a nice round loop with 4  G 

 pulls at the bottom. If you're not worried about roundness, 3 G's 

 will do 'er with margin over the top.

 Immelman - 160-165 KIAS

 Split S - less than 100 KIAS

 Wing overs - can easily be accomplished from 140 KIAS....keep  that 

 ball centered! 

If you're positive G the whole time, no need to worry about  oil 

 level....and if you go negative, it won't matter how much you have  in  

there, you're gonna have a mess without a closed system.   

Standard disclaimer: None of the above is an endorsement  for 

 performing aerobatics in a CJ. Obtain quality instruction and  learn 

 to fly any maneuvers competently with a qualified pilot before 

 venturing out on your own. Know and rehearse stall/spin recovery 

 techniques prior to any aerobatic flight. Give your self  sufficient 

 altitude to recover and or bailout of an unrecoverable situation. 

 Wear a parachute and have parameters for it's use determined  before 

 getting in the cockpit. Kiss your wife and feed your dog...and  most  

importantly have that cheeseburger you've been putting off  before you  

go flying. - 

Have fun! 

Barry 

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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:09 am Post subject: CJ Aerobatics

Thanks all. I'm off to the RPA store. Safe Flying...... 

Greg On Jul 9, 2015 12:08 AM, "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:[quote]The aerobatic manual for CJs is available and downloadable in the RPA's online store. Go to www.flyredstar.org and click on the store.



On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Greg Wrobel <clouddog22(at)gmail.com (clouddog22(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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I can hear it now from the YAK/M14P group. "Aerobatics in a CJ, you got to be kidding".  All kidding aside, does anyone have entry speeds or Information on the limited aerobatics I can attempt in a stock CJ?   

Thanks,  Greg   	  Quote: 	
		  



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Mill Valley, CA 94941

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