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Dee One

Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Posts: 48

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:51 am Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

I am considering purchasing a Mark 3 Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 engine. I am concerned about cooling that engine as a pusher. Please let me know if you have any experience, positive or negative, regarding a Jabiru engine, especially regarding any cooling issues.



Thanks,

Dee

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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:35 pm Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

2200 seems to be OK on a pusher. My MK -3 C has over 900 hrs and head temps show less than 

300 cruising at 70 and 2700rpm but I do have a good fairing. 

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 I am considering purchasing a Mark 3 Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 engine. I am concerned about cooling that engine as a pusher. Please let me know if you have any experience, positive or negative, regarding a Jabiru engine, especially regarding any cooling issues.

 

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Dee One

Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Posts: 48

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:31 pm Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

That sounds good Gary. What type of fuel do you burn? Dee LeBlanc

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		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com (zeprep251(at)aol.com)> wrote:

--> Kolb-List message posted by: Gary Aman <zeprep251(at)aol.com (zeprep251(at)aol.com)>2200 seems to be OK on a pusher. My MK -3 C has over 900 hrs and head temps show less than 300 cruising at 70 and 2700rpm but I do have a good fairing. Sent from my iPhone 	  Quote: 	
		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Dee One <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dee One" <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)>I am considering purchasing a Mark 3 Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 engine. I am concerned about cooling that engine as a pusher. Please let me know if you have any experience, positive or negative, regarding a Jabiru engine, especially regarding any cooling issues.Thanks,DeeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444274#444274 	
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colin.scott.hudson(at)gma
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:22 pm Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

Dee, I own a M3X with. Kolb 2200 engine.  It cool with no problems at all.  I've read a lot about the cooling problems with that engine but it's always been sensitive to the engine cowls around it.  As an exposed pusher it cools fine.  The only problem I ever had was when I installed a BRS (ballistic parachute).  I installed the VLS and it disrupted the flow of air to the Cylinder Heads.    I removed it and installed the canister BRS and the problem was solved.  The folks at BRS were great to work with on that project.  I prefer the Kolb over the 912 because it's direct drive off the crank just like a Cessna.  I like looking at my TAC and seeing 2600 RPM.



Scott Huddon

N424AL



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		   On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Dee One <leblancds(at)cox.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 I am considering purchasing a Mark 3 Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 engine. I am concerned about cooling that engine as a pusher. Please let me know if you have any experience, positive or negative, regarding a Jabiru engine, especially regarding any cooling issues.

 

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:42 pm Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

Probably performs like a Cessna.  



john h

Rock House, Oregon



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Dee One

Joined: 29 Jun 2015
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:52 pm Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

Be in a GA pilot I like the low RPM also.  Do you find adequate power for take off and climb with your jab?  Dee LeBlanc

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		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com (colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

--> Kolb-List message posted by: Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com (colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com)>Dee, I own a M3X with. Kolb 2200 engine.  It cool with no problems at all.  I've read a lot about the cooling problems with that engine but it's always been sensitive to the engine cowls around it.  As an exposed pusher it cools fine.  The only problem I ever had was when I installed a BRS (ballistic parachute).  I installed the VLS and it disrupted the flow of air to the Cylinder Heads.    I removed it and installed the canister BRS and the problem was solved.  The folks at BRS were great to work with on that project.  I prefer the Kolb over the 912 because it's direct drive off the crank just like a Cessna.  I like looking at my TAC and seeing 2600 RPM.Scott HuddonN424ALSent from my iPhone 	  Quote: 	
		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Dee One <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dee One" <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)>I am considering purchasing a Mark 3 Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 engine. I am concerned about cooling that engine as a pusher. Please let me know if you have any experience, positive or negative, regarding a Jabiru engine, especially regarding any cooling issues.Thanks,DeeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444274#444274 	
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:52 pm Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

Jabiru rates it at 80 HP but says its really closer to 90.  At 900' MSL I can take off with two 200 lb guys in 300' of runway and set the VSI at 1300' per min.  Cruise speed is nothing to brag about but performance is great.

Scott Hudson



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On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:52 PM, Dee LeBlanc <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)> wrote:

[quote]Be in a GA pilot I like the low RPM also.  Do you find adequate power for take off and climb with your jab?  Dee LeBlanc

leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)



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The Future is a Mystery

Today is a Gift

That’s Why They Call it the Present

 

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		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com (colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

--> Kolb-List message posted by: Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com (colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com)>Dee, I own a M3X with. Kolb 2200 engine.  It cool with no problems at all.  I've read a lot about the cooling problems with that engine but it's always been sensitive to the engine cowls around it.  As an exposed pusher it cools fine.  The only problem I ever had was when I installed a BRS (ballistic parachute).  I installed the VLS and it disrupted the flow of air to the Cylinder Heads.    I removed it and installed the canister BRS and the problem was solved.  The folks at BRS were great to work with on that project.  I prefer the Kolb over the 912 because it's direct drive off the crank just like a Cessna.  I like looking at my TAC and seeing 2600 RPM.Scott HuddonN424ALSent from my iPhone 	  Quote: 	
		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Dee One <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dee One" <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)>I am considering purchasing a Mark 3 Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 engine. I am concerned about cooling that engine as a pusher. Please let me know if you have any experience, positive or negative, regarding a Jabiru engine, especially regarding any cooling issues.Thanks,DeeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444274#444274 	
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:38 am Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

Hi,

no longer flying but my Xtra with Jabi was great. A good combination. Pat



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Dee One

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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:54 pm Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

What type of prop is best for the 2200 engine? I've heard several who like or have a  wooden prop. I wonder what would be the best composite prop for a jabiru 2200? Does this engine require a certain prop mass (weight) in order to operate smoothly with this engine? Dee LeBlanc

leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)

cell 225-802-1038

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The Past is History

The Future is a Mystery

Today is a Gift

That’s Why They Call it the Present

 

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		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com (colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

--> Kolb-List message posted by: Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com (colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com)>Dee, I own a M3X with. Kolb 2200 engine.  It cool with no problems at all.  I've read a lot about the cooling problems with that engine but it's always been sensitive to the engine cowls around it.  As an exposed pusher it cools fine.  The only problem I ever had was when I installed a BRS (ballistic parachute).  I installed the VLS and it disrupted the flow of air to the Cylinder Heads.    I removed it and installed the canister BRS and the problem was solved.  The folks at BRS were great to work with on that project.  I prefer the Kolb over the 912 because it's direct drive off the crank just like a Cessna.  I like looking at my TAC and seeing 2600 RPM.Scott HuddonN424ALSent from my iPhone 	  Quote: 	
		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Dee One <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dee One" <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)>I am considering purchasing a Mark 3 Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 engine. I am concerned about cooling that engine as a pusher. Please let me know if you have any experience, positive or negative, regarding a Jabiru engine, especially regarding any cooling issues.Thanks,DeeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444274#444274 	
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:49 am Post subject: Jabiru Engine Performance and Cooling

Dee,early on the Jabiru had some harmonic issues that caused flywheel s to loosen. They increased from 1/4 bolts to 5/16 and also added dowel pins at the flywheel attach point. They determined using a wood or wood core prop solved the problem. Prince makes a wood core carbon fiber prop for the Jabiru 2200. I have  a Sensenich wood on mine and a Pronce for a spare. 



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On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Dee LeBlanc <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)> wrote:

[quote]What type of prop is best for the 2200 engine? I've heard several who like or have a  wooden prop. I wonder what would be the best composite prop for a jabiru 2200? Does this engine require a certain prop mass (weight) in order to operate smoothly with this engine? Dee LeBlanc

leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)

cell 225-802-1038

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Past is History

The Future is a Mystery

Today is a Gift

That’s Why They Call it the Present

 

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		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com (colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

--> Kolb-List message posted by: Colin Hudson <colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com (colin.scott.hudson(at)gmail.com)>Dee, I own a M3X with. Kolb 2200 engine.  It cool with no problems at all.  I've read a lot about the cooling problems with that engine but it's always been sensitive to the engine cowls around it.  As an exposed pusher it cools fine.  The only problem I ever had was when I installed a BRS (ballistic parachute).  I installed the VLS and it disrupted the flow of air to the Cylinder Heads.    I removed it and installed the canister BRS and the problem was solved.  The folks at BRS were great to work with on that project.  I prefer the Kolb over the 912 because it's direct drive off the crank just like a Cessna.  I like looking at my TAC and seeing 2600 RPM.Scott HuddonN424ALSent from my iPhone 	  Quote: 	
		  On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Dee One <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)> wrote:--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dee One" <leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)>I am considering purchasing a Mark 3 Xtra with a Jabiru 2200 engine. I am concerned about cooling that engine as a pusher. Please let me know if you have any experience, positive or negative, regarding a Jabiru engine, especially regarding any cooling issues.Thanks,DeeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=444274#444274 	
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