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 Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:35 am Post subject: Camloc for cowling |
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has anyone used camloc fasteners on the cowling?
thanks
Will
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Cassel
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:35 pm Post subject: Camloc for cowling |
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Hi Will
Yes and it works perfekt. You need to messure each point and use different sizes.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:30 am Post subject: Camloc for cowling |
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Similar to camloc, I used southco fasteners (on the upper to lower cowl only, since it will be removed often) as pointed out in mod 10405 by Nigel Charles (found on the Europa club website). They allow the cowling to install quickly. My fasteners didn't perectly match the shape of the bowl in the tinnerman washers. Possibly the shape changed over time. They will not 'quite' sit flat. I pounded the southco into the tinnerman with a hammer using a formed backing to give it more 'like a glove' fit.
Washers or shims can be used on the receptacle to allow the same length fastener at all attachment points.
They can be lost easily, since they are not anchored to the cowling when it is removed off the aircraft. Work however, they do (said Yoda).
For those who use this mod, plan to lay plies to keep the two cowling flanges in line with each other as pointed out else-where (lower cowlings single flange sandwiches into upper cowling double flange). That way, the fasteners poking through the upper cowling don't have to reach far to grab the receptacle in the lower cowling. Reach far, they won't. (oh boy..must be tired)
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has anyone used camloc fasteners on the cowling?
thanks
Will
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:57 am Post subject: Re: Camloc for cowling |
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I used the Skybolt fasteners for my cowl. There are some things that I would do differently. The receptacles should be made to attach to a flat surface inside the cabin area. That means it needs to be built up so that the stud is flat against the cowling. These are made for aluminum that is 0.20 to 032 in thickness. Our cowls are thicker. I have had trouble keeping the Grommet in place because of the wear and alignment of the holes and studs. I have tried to re-enforce the area, but it only last for a while. The last couple of time I have glassed in an AN 970 washers, but then it takes a larger or thicker Grommet. The other thing I don't like is they were sold to me a water proof, well the leak. If I leave the aircraft out I tape the top cowl with some tape, if I remember to bring it with me.
I do like the look and the quick release of the cowl. If I were to do it again I just might go with 10/32 screws. They are a whole lot cheaper.
Rick Stockton
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:28 am Post subject: Camloc for cowling |
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Excellent, thanks very much
William Daniell
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 9:57 AM, AirEupora <AirEupora(at)sbcglobal.net (AirEupora(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:
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I used the Skybolt fasteners for my cowl. There are some things that I would do differently. The receptacles should be made to attach to a flat surface inside the cabin area. That means it needs to be built up so that the stud is flat against the cowling. These are made for aluminum that is 0.20 to 032 in thickness. Our cowls are thicker. I have had trouble keeping the Grommet in place because of the wear and alignment of the holes and studs. I have tried to re-enforce the area, but it only last for a while. The last couple of time I have glassed in an AN 970 washers, but then it takes a larger or thicker Grommet. The other thing I don't like is they were sold to me a water proof, well the leak. If I leave the aircraft out I tape the top cowl with some tape, if I remember to bring it with me.
I do like the look and the quick release of the cowl. If I were to do it again I just might go with 10/32 screws. They are a whole lot cheaper.
Rick Stockton
N120EJ
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:17 am Post subject: Camloc for cowling |
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Thanks Greg. .very helpful
Will On 24 Jul 2015 07:33, "Greg Fuchs" <gregoryf.flyboy(at)comcast.net (gregoryf.flyboy(at)comcast.net)> wrote:[quote] Similar to camloc, I used southco fasteners (on the upper to lower cowl only, since it will be removed often) as pointed out in mod 10405 by Nigel Charles (found on the Europa club website). They allow the cowling to install quickly.  My fasteners didn't perectly match the shape of the bowl in the tinnerman washers. Possibly the shape changed over time. They will not 'quite' sit flat. I pounded the southco into the tinnerman with a hammer using a formed backing to give it more 'like a glove' fit.
Washers or shims can be used on the receptacle to allow the same length fastener at all attachment points.
They can be lost easily, since they are not anchored to the cowling when it is removed off the aircraft. Work however, they do (said Yoda).
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For those who use this mod, plan to lay plies to keep the two cowling flanges in line with each other as pointed out else-where (lower cowlings single flange sandwiches into upper cowling double flange). That way, the fasteners poking through the upper cowling don't have to reach far to grab the receptacle in the lower cowling. Reach far, they won't. (oh boy..must be tired)
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Subject: Camloc for cowling
has anyone used camloc fasteners on the cowling?
thanks
Will
William Daniell
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