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 Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:01 am Post subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time. |
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re: "I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds
are that it would jump off the jacks."
Not if you use the procedure, which is on my web site.
http://www.yak-52.com/maintena.htm
Try it the next time you have the airplane on jacks. You'll be amazed
at how gently the gear comes down and locks in place using this simple
procedure.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 7/22/2015 8:32 AM, Jan Mevis wrote:
[quote]
No, testing is no issue, but with air from the emergency system we don't
let it go the whole way.
I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds are
that it would jump off the jacks.
The one time that I had to use the emergency system in flight, I remember
that it was a very violent experience.
Impossible to not notice it, the gear gets slammed down with so much force
and the whole plane shaked.
The Lithuanian mechanic that services my Yak 50 does check the emergency
system at each annual but he cuts the air supply before it's fully
developped.
Anyway, the Russian DOSAAF manual says that the main gear of the 50 should
be rebuilt after 3 uses of the emergency system.
Not only the actuators, the whole gear.
We sometimes forget that the scheduled lifetime of the Yak 50 was rather
short. The 50 was easily destined to be scrapped after certain mishaps.
Of course we do test the normal system each year and then we do have the
gear retract and extend several times, the whole way.
That's no problem.
We also do check the bottles each year.
BR,
Jan
On 22/07/15 14:05, "George S. Coy" <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on
behalf of george.coy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm, So when the emergency gear extension is tested at very annual
> condition extension, then it gets rebuilt every third year? I guess most
> of
> us missed that memo.
> George
>
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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:30 am Post subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time. |
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Ok Dennis, but there's a difference between the 50 and the 52.
The 50 is much lighter, and it are the Russian inspectors and mechanics
who advised me NOT to extend the whole gear using the emergency.
Everything I added only applies to the Yak 50.
Jan
On 22/07/15 16:58, "A. Dennis Savarese"
<owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
[quote]
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
re: "I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds
are that it would jump off the jacks."
Not if you use the procedure, which is on my web site.
http://www.yak-52.com/maintena.htm
Try it the next time you have the airplane on jacks. You'll be amazed
at how gently the gear comes down and locks in place using this simple
procedure.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 7/22/2015 8:32 AM, Jan Mevis wrote:
>
>
> No, testing is no issue, but with air from the emergency system we don't
> let it go the whole way.
> I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds are
> that it would jump off the jacks.
> The one time that I had to use the emergency system in flight, I
>remember
> that it was a very violent experience.
> Impossible to not notice it, the gear gets slammed down with so much
>force
> and the whole plane shaked.
>
> The Lithuanian mechanic that services my Yak 50 does check the emergency
> system at each annual but he cuts the air supply before it's fully
> developped.
> Anyway, the Russian DOSAAF manual says that the main gear of the 50
>should
> be rebuilt after 3 uses of the emergency system.
> Not only the actuators, the whole gear.
>
> We sometimes forget that the scheduled lifetime of the Yak 50 was rather
> short. The 50 was easily destined to be scrapped after certain mishaps.
>
> Of course we do test the normal system each year and then we do have the
> gear retract and extend several times, the whole way.
> That's no problem.
> We also do check the bottles each year.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
> On 22/07/15 14:05, "George S. Coy" <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
>on
> behalf of george.coy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm, So when the emergency gear extension is tested at very annual
>> condition extension, then it gets rebuilt every third year? I guess
>>most
>> of
>> us missed that memo.
>> George
>>
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:43 am Post subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time. |
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Jan, read his procedure.
He understands. 
Mark
________________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] on behalf of Jan Mevis [jan.mevis(at)informavia.be]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 1:27 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time.
Ok Dennis, but there's a difference between the 50 and the 52.
The 50 is much lighter, and it are the Russian inspectors and mechanics
who advised me NOT to extend the whole gear using the emergency.
Everything I added only applies to the Yak 50.
Jan
On 22/07/15 16:58, "A. Dennis Savarese"
<owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
[quote]
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
re: "I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds
are that it would jump off the jacks."
Not if you use the procedure, which is on my web site.
http://www.yak-52.com/maintena.htm
Try it the next time you have the airplane on jacks. You'll be amazed
at how gently the gear comes down and locks in place using this simple
procedure.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 7/22/2015 8:32 AM, Jan Mevis wrote:
>
>
> No, testing is no issue, but with air from the emergency system we don't
> let it go the whole way.
> I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds are
> that it would jump off the jacks.
> The one time that I had to use the emergency system in flight, I
>remember
> that it was a very violent experience.
> Impossible to not notice it, the gear gets slammed down with so much
>force
> and the whole plane shaked.
>
> The Lithuanian mechanic that services my Yak 50 does check the emergency
> system at each annual but he cuts the air supply before it's fully
> developped.
> Anyway, the Russian DOSAAF manual says that the main gear of the 50
>should
> be rebuilt after 3 uses of the emergency system.
> Not only the actuators, the whole gear.
>
> We sometimes forget that the scheduled lifetime of the Yak 50 was rather
> short. The 50 was easily destined to be scrapped after certain mishaps.
>
> Of course we do test the normal system each year and then we do have the
> gear retract and extend several times, the whole way.
> That's no problem.
> We also do check the bottles each year.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
> On 22/07/15 14:05, "George S. Coy" <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
>on
> behalf of george.coy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm, So when the emergency gear extension is tested at very annual
>> condition extension, then it gets rebuilt every third year? I guess
>>most
>> of
>> us missed that memo.
>> George
>>
>> --
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dsavarese0812(at)bellsout
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:18 am Post subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time. |
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Jan,
Yes, I know the 50 and 52 are different. BUT the procedure is the same for both airplanes and the gear will NOT slam down using the emergency system. Try it. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Dennis
From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time.
--> Yak-List message posted by: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>
Ok Dennis, but there's a difference between the 50 and the 52.
The 50 is much lighter, and it are the Russian inspectors and mechanics
who advised me NOT to extend the whole gear using the emergency.
Everything I added only applies to the Yak 50.
Jan
On 22/07/15 16:58, "A. Dennis Savarese"
<owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) on behalf of
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
re: "I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds
are that it would jump off the jacks."
Not if you use the procedure, which is on my web site.
http://www.yak-52.com/maintena.htm
Try it the next time you have the airplane on jacks. You'll be amazed
at how gently the gear comes down and locks in place using this simple
procedure.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 7/22/2015 8:32 AM, Jan Mevis wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>
>
> No, testing is no issue, but with air from the emergency system we don't
> let it go the whole way.
> I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds are
> that it would jump off the jacks.
> The one time that I had to use the emergency system in flight, I
>remember
> that it was a very violent experience.
> Impossible to not notice it, the gear gets slammed down with so much
>force
> and the whole plane shaked.
>
> The Lithuanian mechanic that services my Yak 50 does check the emergency
> system at each annual but he cuts the air supply before it's fully
> developped.
> Anyway, the Russian DOSAAF manual says that the main gear of the 50
>should
> be rebuilt after 3 uses of the emergency system.
> Not only the actuators, the whole gear.
>
> We sometimes forget that the scheduled lifetime of the Yak 50 was rather
> short. The 50 was easily destined to be scrapped after certain mishaps.
>
> Of course we do test the normal system each year and then we do have the
> gear retract and extend several times, the whole way.
> That's no problem.
> We also do check the bottles each year.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
> On 22/07/15 14:05, "George S. Coy" <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>on
> behalf of george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "George S. Coy" <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>
>>
>> Hmmm, So when the emergency gear extension is tested at very annual
>> condition extension, then it gets rebuilt every third year? I guess
>>most
>> of
>> us missed that memo.
>> George
>>
>> --
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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:43 am Post subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time. |
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You're correct Dennis, of course one must not let the gear slam down at full force.
I realize that what I wrote wasn't very precise. That's sometimes a problem when not writing in your own language. I write better in French.
So instead of helping to clarify things, I did the opposite. I apologize, that was not what I had in mind.
I try to rephrase:
1.- when operating the gear for lowering the wheels, I always listen to the "thumb thumb" and then of course, I want to see the lights. Seeing greens without the noise worries me. Hearing the noise without the green lights even more.
2.- when I said that the Russians advise to have the whole gear checked (actuators + legs) that is of course when the full power of the emergency bottle gets applied, until locking. It is not very probable that that should happen three times in a lifetime of a Yak 50. But this advise applies ONLY to the Yak 50.
3.- when the Russian inspector said that you've got to be carefull when exercising the gear lowering with the emergency, he meant that one must not try on jacks what would happen in the air.
So bottomline: I use YOUR procedure since many years , including the emergency-system check
BR,
Jan
From: <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)> on behalf of "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Reply-To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Wednesday 22 July 2015 21:12
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time.
Jan,
Yes, I know the 50 and 52 are different. BUT the procedure is the same for both airplanes and the gear will NOT slam down using the emergency system. Try it. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Dennis
From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time.
--> Yak-List message posted by: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>
Ok Dennis, but there's a difference between the 50 and the 52.
The 50 is much lighter, and it are the Russian inspectors and mechanics
who advised me NOT to extend the whole gear using the emergency.
Everything I added only applies to the Yak 50.
Jan
On 22/07/15 16:58, "A. Dennis Savarese"
<owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) on behalf of
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
re: "I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds
are that it would jump off the jacks."
Not if you use the procedure, which is on my web site.
http://www.yak-52.com/maintena.htm
Try it the next time you have the airplane on jacks. You'll be amazed
at how gently the gear comes down and locks in place using this simple
procedure.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 7/22/2015 8:32 AM, Jan Mevis wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>
>
> No, testing is no issue, but with air from the emergency system we don't
> let it go the whole way.
> I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds are
> that it would jump off the jacks.
> The one time that I had to use the emergency system in flight, I
>remember
> that it was a very violent experience.
> Impossible to not notice it, the gear gets slammed down with so much
>force
> and the whole plane shaked.
>
> The Lithuanian mechanic that services my Yak 50 does check the emergency
> system at each annual but he cuts the air supply before it's fully
> developped.
> Anyway, the Russian DOSAAF manual says that the main gear of the 50
>should
> be rebuilt after 3 uses of the emergency system.
> Not only the actuators, the whole gear.
>
> We sometimes forget that the scheduled lifetime of the Yak 50 was rather
> short. The 50 was easily destined to be scrapped after certain mishaps.
>
> Of course we do test the normal system each year and then we do have the
> gear retract and extend several times, the whole way.
> That's no problem.
> We also do check the bottles each year.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
> On 22/07/15 14:05, "George S. Coy" <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>on
> behalf of george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "George S. Coy" <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>
>>
>> Hmmm, So when the emergency gear extension is tested at very annual
>> condition extension, then it gets rebuilt every third year? I guess
>>most
>> of
>> us missed that memo.
>> George
>>
>> --
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:42 pm Post subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time. |
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As I said Jan, I misunderstood what you were saying as well. I should have known better. You are very accomplished with your airplane.
Mark
________________________________
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] on behalf of Jan Mevis [jan.mevis(at)informavia.be]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:39 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time.
You're correct Dennis, of course one must not let the gear slam down at full force.
I realize that what I wrote wasn't very precise. That's sometimes a problem when not writing in your own language. I write better in French.
So instead of helping to clarify things, I did the opposite. I apologize, that was not what I had in mind.
I try to rephrase:
1.- when operating the gear for lowering the wheels, I always listen to the "thumb thumb" and then of course, I want to see the lights. Seeing greens without the noise worries me. Hearing the noise without the green lights even more.
2.- when I said that the Russians advise to have the whole gear checked (actuators + legs) that is of course when the full power of the emergency bottle gets applied, until locking. It is not very probable that that should happen three times in a lifetime of a Yak 50. But this advise applies ONLY to the Yak 50.
3.- when the Russian inspector said that you've got to be carefull when exercising the gear lowering with the emergency, he meant that one must not try on jacks what would happen in the air.
So bottomline: I use YOUR procedure since many years , including the emergency-system check
BR,
Jan
From: <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>> on behalf of "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
Reply-To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>" <yak-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
Date: Wednesday 22 July 2015 21:12
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>" <yak-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
Subject: Re: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time.
Jan,
Yes, I know the 50 and 52 are different. BUT the procedure is the same for both airplanes and the gear will NOT slam down using the emergency system. Try it. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Dennis
________________________________
From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be<mailto:jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>>
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>" <yak-list(at)matronics.com<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time.
Ok Dennis, but there's a difference between the 50 and the 52.
The 50 is much lighter, and it are the Russian inspectors and mechanics
who advised me NOT to extend the whole gear using the emergency.
Everything I added only applies to the Yak 50.
Jan
On 22/07/15 16:58, "A. Dennis Savarese"
<owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com> on behalf of
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>> wrote:
[quote]
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
re: "I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds
are that it would jump off the jacks."
Not if you use the procedure, which is on my web site.
http://www.yak-52.com/maintena.htm
Try it the next time you have the airplane on jacks. You'll be amazed
at how gently the gear comes down and locks in place using this simple
procedure.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 7/22/2015 8:32 AM, Jan Mevis wrote:
>
>
> No, testing is no issue, but with air from the emergency system we don't
> let it go the whole way.
> I would be very scared doing that with the plane on jacks. The odds are
> that it would jump off the jacks.
> The one time that I had to use the emergency system in flight, I
>remember
> that it was a very violent experience.
> Impossible to not notice it, the gear gets slammed down with so much
>force
> and the whole plane shaked.
>
> The Lithuanian mechanic that services my Yak 50 does check the emergency
> system at each annual but he cuts the air supply before it's fully
> developped.
> Anyway, the Russian DOSAAF manual says that the main gear of the 50
>should
> be rebuilt after 3 uses of the emergency system.
> Not only the actuators, the whole gear.
>
> We sometimes forget that the scheduled lifetime of the Yak 50 was rather
> short. The 50 was easily destined to be scrapped after certain mishaps.
>
> Of course we do test the normal system each year and then we do have the
> gear retract and extend several times, the whole way.
> That's no problem.
> We also do check the bottles each year.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
> On 22/07/15 14:05, "George S. Coy" <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
>on
> behalf of george.coy(at)gmail.com<mailto:george.coy(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm, So when the emergency gear extension is tested at very annual
>> condition extension, then it gets rebuilt every third year? I guess
>>most
>> of
>> us missed that memo.
>> George
>>
>> --
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gord(at)thedampub.ca
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:28 am Post subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time. |
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Attached are photos, sent to me by Jill, of the end of the left landing gear actuator end that blew off at 300 lbs pressure in the shop at M-14P inc.
Gord
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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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| Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:15 am Post subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time. |
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Thanks for sharing!
Jan
From: <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)> on behalf of Gordon Price <gord(at)thedampub.ca (gord(at)thedampub.ca)>
Reply-To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Friday 24 July 2015 20:24
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: YAK-50 landing gear actuators overhaul time.
Attached are photos, sent to me by Jill, of the end of the left landing gear actuator end that blew off at 300 lbs pressure in the shop at M-14P inc.
Gord
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