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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:45 pm    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
Jim Metzger was critically injured earlier this week when N222JS crashed on landing at Boise ID airport.

The Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise said there is no person by that name in the hospital. Weird.

I am trying to get hold of Sue to give us an update as we are very concerned and shocked at this accident. Keep Jim and Sue in your prayers.

Read all about it with pictures and video:  https://www.facebook.com/COMMANDERFLIGHT

Nico



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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:05 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: [matronics.com] Re: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

The first time I posted this, it didn't get to the list…

Adam,

I still "own" the www.aerocommander.com domain, which is forwarded to www.twincommander.org where TCFG's web page is located. I put "own" in quotes because it really is the property of TCFG, which I just put on my ICANN register to manage the domain's DNS entries.

I also run/own the www.facebook.com/commanderflight facebook page. It is reasonably active, has more than 1,000 likes and the fans are from all over the globe. The best "reach" any posting had is the helicopter crash after an aerobatic maneuver, which stands at 89,000 and climbing by the thousands every day. The average is about 200-300 per posting. The facebook page accommodates posts from aviation in general but Aero Commanders in particular. Many of the articles, brochures, and other technical data were uploaded from the original CD's sent to me years ago by (I cannot recall) and are visible on the facebook page. There are tons of stuff there. The Metzger friends will be able to explain more about these resources as they have been intimately involved in shaping what these sites have become, not discounting others' contributions over the years. You will notice a distinct presence of turbines and piston Commanders there.

If it can be used, I'll transfer it wherever it can be used productively. The burden of the annual cost of renewal will have to follow the domain, too. I kept it up for a generation and it is not really used in its current form.

If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.

Thanks

Nico



From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Glenn Hancock
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:08 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?


So I'm a bit confused:

1) There is already a site at http://www.flightlevelsonline.com/phpBB/ that seems dedicated to commanders but no one seems to use it. I posted something there before finding this email list that to this day still has not been responded to. Why?

2) I have created a new forum at twincommandersgroup.com and plan to leave it up as long as you guys want to use it but I guess the question is, why does no one use the other one? Is this one going to get ignored as badly as it and why don't we all just move over there and stop using this email list?

The forum can be set to send emails when new posts are made and it keeps all of the posts organized so people can go back and search old topics.

Is anyone interested in using my forum, the other forum or is everyone stuck on the email list?

Thanks,

Glenn


On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)>

Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me.

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On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:35, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote:

--> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)>

Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded.

Thoughts?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:46 am    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
Hi Adam,

I will call you soon to discuss the website and chatlist - I am sure we can improve on the status quo.
Cheers
Russell
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:54 PM, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)>

Nico - I appreciate what has been done by you on Facebook, problem is I gave up Facebook two years ago and nothing, not even Commanders will make me come back. I'm also a reader of pretty much every flying forum there is, so what I want is only Commander specific stuff. I'm less interested in reading about aviation news in general, because I see it on all the other forums and websites too.

But like Glenn said - maybe we should just use the one over at Flightlevels?
I would like it to be under real names, but i suppose it works as is. Does anybody know who runs that board?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:28 pm    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
What is the latest on Metzger ? Hope he is OK ? Gil

Sent from my iPhone

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On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:54 AM, "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com> wrote:



Nico - I appreciate what has been done by you on Facebook, problem is I gave up Facebook two years ago and nothing, not even Commanders will make me come back. I'm also a reader of pretty much every flying forum there is, so what I want is only Commander specific stuff. I'm less interested in reading about aviation news in general, because I see it on all the other forums and websites too.

But like Glenn said - maybe we should just use the one over at Flightlevels?
I would like it to be under real names, but i suppose it works as is. Does anybody know who runs that board?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:58 am    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
Nico,

I also agree with Adam in that I absolutely hate Facebook.  The problem is that it's simply a gossip center where people go to talk and post pictures and videos.  It's not subject specific and trying to follow conversations or search for specific information is impossible.  I would like to see a forum that is specific to our common interests and that we can control better.

As I mentioned, I've already created a forum at twincommandergroup.com and created a few sections for conversations.  There are a few things we all need to consider with a forum like this.  1) That more than one person be involved in the domain name so that when one of us passes on, the others can pickup the forum.  One possible solution is that one of you has registered twincommanders.com.  That could be pointed at my server and both domains would resolve to the same place for now but could be different later. 

2) That the people involved have some sort of written agreement that if something were to happen to the person owning the server, that others can have it transferred to another server.

3) There are a couple options on the latter point, instead of me placing the forum on my own server I could just rent a server from one of the popular sites and we could place it there.  You will get into disk size limits and other possible problems in that situation as well as costs involved that I'm more than happy to foot at the moment.  I'm not rich but I do have the money to cover the server and operational costs.  I just want somewhere that we can all gather and discuss what interests us about the Commanders family and not have to join an email list that I have a hard time keeping track of conversations or Facebook where I have to filter through everything.

I'm also very very sorry to hear about Jim.  The accident would seem to be some sort of catastrophic failure based on the accident report so far.  I can't believe an engine failure would cause something like that unless power was added after the failure.  I just purchased a 680F that I haven't begun to fly so am very interested in what happened.  I hope he recovers and gets back to flying soon.

Feel free to contact me at 770 490 7899 any time.

Glenn

On 9/25/15 8:45 PM, Nico hMail wrote:

[quote] <![endif]--> <![endif]-->
Jim Metzger was critically injured earlier this week when N222JS crashed on landing at Boise ID airport.
 
The Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise said there is no person by that name in the hospital. Weird.
 
I am trying to get hold of Sue to give us an update as we are very concerned and shocked at this accident. Keep Jim and Sue in your prayers.
 
Read all about it with pictures and video:  https://www.facebook.com/COMMANDERFLIGHT
 
Nico
 
 
 
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Nico hMail
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:05 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: [matronics.com] Re: Commander-List: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?


 
The first time I posted this, it didn't get to the list…
 
Adam,
 
I still "own" the www.aerocommander.com domain, which is forwarded to www.twincommander.org where TCFG's web page is located. I put "own" in quotes because it really is the property of TCFG, which I just put on my ICANN register to manage the domain's DNS entries.
 
I also run/own the www.facebook.com/commanderflight facebook page. It is reasonably active, has more than 1,000 likes and the fans are from all over the globe. The best "reach" any posting had is the helicopter crash after an aerobatic maneuver, which stands at 89,000 and climbing by the thousands every day. The average is about 200-300 per posting. The facebook page accommodates posts from aviation in general but Aero Commanders in particular. Many of the articles, brochures, and other technical data were uploaded from the original CD's sent to me years ago by (I cannot recall) and are visible on the facebook page. There are tons of stuff there. The Metzger friends will be able to explain more about these resources as they have been intimately involved in shaping what these sites have become, not discounting others' contributions over the years. You will notice a distinct presence of turbines and piston Commanders there.
 
If it can be used, I'll transfer it wherever it can be used productively. The burden of the annual cost of renewal will have to follow the domain, too. I kept it up for a generation and it is not really used in its current form.
 
If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.
 
Thanks
 
Nico
 
 
 
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Glenn Hancock
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:08 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

 
So I'm a bit confused:

1) There is already a site at http://www.flightlevelsonline.com/phpBB/  that seems dedicated to commanders but no one seems to use it.  I posted something there before finding this email list that to this day still has not been responded to.  Why?

2) I have created a new forum at twincommandersgroup.com and plan to leave it up as long as you guys want to use it but I guess the question is, why does no one use the other one?  Is this one going to get ignored as badly as it and why don't we all just move over there and stop using this email list?

The forum can be set to send emails when new posts are made and it keeps all of the posts organized so people can go back and search old topics.

Is anyone interested in using my forum, the other forum or is everyone stuck on the email list?

Thanks,

Glenn

 
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)>

Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me.

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:35, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote:
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> --> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)>
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> Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded.
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> Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:25 am    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
Glen and NicoJim is doing better and is going into surgery today some time. This is to put his hip back together.
He was able to wiggle his toes and that is suppose to be good.

The meeting here in Colorado Springs went well and people are now leaving to go home.

Call me on my cell and I can tell you more.
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On Sep 27, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Glenn Hancock <glennh(at)GMAIL.COM (glennh(at)GMAIL.COM)> wrote:
Nico, I also agree with Adam in that I absolutely hate Facebook. The problem is that it's simply a gossip center where people go to talk and post pictures and videos. It's not subject specific and trying to follow conversations or search for specific information is impossible. I would like to see a forum that is specific to our common interests and that we can control better. As I mentioned, I've already created a forum at twincommandergroup.com and created a few sections for conversations. There are a few things we all need to consider with a forum like this. 1) That more than one person be involved in the domain name so that when one of us passes on, the others can pickup the forum. One possible solution is that one of you has registered twincommanders.com. That could be pointed at my server and both domains would resolve to the same place for now but could be different later. 2) That the people involved have some sort of written agreement that if something were to happen to the person owning the server, that others can have it transferred to another server. 3) There are a couple options on the latter point, instead of me placing the forum on my own server I could just rent a server from one of the popular sites and we could place it there. You will get into disk size limits and other possible problems in that situation as well as costs involved that I'm more than happy to foot at the moment. I'm not rich but I do have the money to cover the server and operational costs. I just want somewhere that we can all gather and discuss what interests us about the Commanders family and not have to join an email list that I have a hard time keeping track of conversations or Facebook where I have to filter through everything. I'm also very very sorry to hear about Jim. The accident would seem to be some sort of catastrophic failure based on the accident report so far. I can't believe an engine failure would cause something like that unless power was added after the failure. I just purchased a 680F that I haven't begun to fly so am very interested in what happened. I hope he recovers and gets back to flying soon. Feel free to contact me at 770 490 7899 any time. Glenn On 9/25/15 8:45 PM, Nico hMail wrote:
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<![endif]--> <![endif]-->
Jim Metzger was critically injured earlier this week when N222JS crashed on landing at Boise ID airport.

The Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise said there is no person by that name in the hospital. Weird.

I am trying to get hold of Sue to give us an update as we are very concerned and shocked at this accident. Keep Jim and Sue in your prayers.

Read all about it with pictures and video: https://www.facebook.com/COMMANDERFLIGHT

Nico



From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Nico hMail Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:05 PM To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com) Subject: RE: [matronics.com] Re: Commander-List: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?



The first time I posted this, it didn't get to the list…

Adam,

I still "own" the www.aerocommander.com domain, which is forwarded to www.twincommander.org where TCFG's web page is located. I put "own" in quotes because it really is the property of TCFG, which I just put on my ICANN register to manage the domain's DNS entries.

I also run/own the www.facebook.com/commanderflight facebook page. It is reasonably active, has more than 1,000 likes and the fans are from all over the globe. The best "reach" any posting had is the helicopter crash after an aerobatic maneuver, which stands at 89,000 and climbing by the thousands every day. The average is about 200-300 per posting. The facebook page accommodates posts from aviation in general but Aero Commanders in particular. Many of the articles, brochures, and other technical data were uploaded from the original CD's sent to me years ago by (I cannot recall) and are visible on the facebook page. There are tons of stuff there. The Metzger friends will be able to explain more about these resources as they have been intimately involved in shaping what these sites have become, not discounting others' contributions over the years. You will notice a distinct presence of turbines and piston Commanders there.

If it can be used, I'll transfer it wherever it can be used productively. The burden of the annual cost of renewal will have to follow the domain, too. I kept it up for a generation and it is not really used in its current form.

If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.

Thanks

Nico



From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Glenn Hancock Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:08 AM To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com) Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?


So I'm a bit confused:

1) There is already a site at http://www.flightlevelsonline.com/phpBB/ that seems dedicated to commanders but no one seems to use it. I posted something there before finding this email list that to this day still has not been responded to. Why?

2) I have created a new forum at twincommandersgroup.com and plan to leave it up as long as you guys want to use it but I guess the question is, why does no one use the other one? Is this one going to get ignored as badly as it and why don't we all just move over there and stop using this email list?

The forum can be set to send emails when new posts are made and it keeps all of the posts organized so people can go back and search old topics.

Is anyone interested in using my forum, the other forum or is everyone stuck on the email list?

Thanks,

Glenn


On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)> Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me.
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:35, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote: > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> > > Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded. > > Thoughts? > > -------- > Adam > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447422#447422 > > > > > > > > > > =========== br> ander-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List =========== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com =========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ===========



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:18 pm    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
Glad to hear Jim is going to be OK . How did the accident happen ? Gil

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Tylor Hall <tylorhall(at)mac.com (tylorhall(at)mac.com)> wrote:
[quote]Glen and NicoJim is doing better and is going into surgery today some time. This is to put his hip back together.
He was able to wiggle his toes and that is suppose to be good.

The meeting here in Colorado Springs went well and people are now leaving to go home.

Call me on my cell and I can tell you more.
Tylor Hall
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401 Monte Alto PL NE
Albuquerque, NM 87123
505-247-3001
505-400-8373 Cell
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Nico, I also agree with Adam in that I absolutely hate Facebook. The problem is that it's simply a gossip center where people go to talk and post pictures and videos. It's not subject specific and trying to follow conversations or search for specific information is impossible. I would like to see a forum that is specific to our common interests and that we can control better. As I mentioned, I've already created a forum at twincommandergroup.com and created a few sections for conversations. There are a few things we all need to consider with a forum like this. 1) That more than one person be involved in the domain name so that when one of us passes on, the others can pickup the forum. One possible solution is that one of you has registered twincommanders.com. That could be pointed at my server and both domains would resolve to the same place for now but could be different later. 2) That the people involved have some sort of written agreement that if something were to happen to the person owning the server, that others can have it transferred to another server. 3) There are a couple options on the latter point, instead of me placing the forum on my own server I could just rent a server from one of the popular sites and we could place it there. You will get into disk size limits and other possible problems in that situation as well as costs involved that I'm more than happy to foot at the moment. I'm not rich but I do have the money to cover the server and operational costs. I just want somewhere that we can all gather and discuss what interests us about the Commanders family and not have to join an email list that I have a hard time keeping track of conversations or Facebook where I have to filter through everything. I'm also very very sorry to hear about Jim. The accident would seem to be some sort of catastrophic failure based on the accident report so far. I can't believe an engine failure would cause something like that unless power was added after the failure. I just purchased a 680F that I haven't begun to fly so am very interested in what happened. I hope he recovers and gets back to flying soon. Feel free to contact me at 770 490 7899 any time. Glenn On 9/25/15 8:45 PM, Nico hMail wrote:
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Jim Metzger was critically injured earlier this week when N222JS crashed on landing at Boise ID airport.

The Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise said there is no person by that name in the hospital. Weird.

I am trying to get hold of Sue to give us an update as we are very concerned and shocked at this accident. Keep Jim and Sue in your prayers.

Read all about it with pictures and video: https://www.facebook.com/COMMANDERFLIGHT

Nico



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The first time I posted this, it didn't get to the list…

Adam,

I still "own" the www.aerocommander.com domain, which is forwarded to www.twincommander.org where TCFG's web page is located. I put "own" in quotes because it really is the property of TCFG, which I just put on my ICANN register to manage the domain's DNS entries.

I also run/own the www.facebook.com/commanderflight facebook page. It is reasonably active, has more than 1,000 likes and the fans are from all over the globe. The best "reach" any posting had is the helicopter crash after an aerobatic maneuver, which stands at 89,000 and climbing by the thousands every day. The average is about 200-300 per posting. The facebook page accommodates posts from aviation in general but Aero Commanders in particular. Many of the articles, brochures, and other technical data were uploaded from the original CD's sent to me years ago by (I cannot recall) and are visible on the facebook page. There are tons of stuff there. The Metzger friends will be able to explain more about these resources as they have been intimately involved in shaping what these sites have become, not discounting others' contributions over the years. You will notice a distinct presence of turbines and piston Commanders there.

If it can be used, I'll transfer it wherever it can be used productively. The burden of the annual cost of renewal will have to follow the domain, too. I kept it up for a generation and it is not really used in its current form.

If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.

Thanks

Nico



From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Glenn Hancock Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:08 AM To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com) Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?


So I'm a bit confused:

1) There is already a site at http://www.flightlevelsonline.com/phpBB/ that seems dedicated to commanders but no one seems to use it. I posted something there before finding this email list that to this day still has not been responded to. Why?

2) I have created a new forum at twincommandersgroup.com and plan to leave it up as long as you guys want to use it but I guess the question is, why does no one use the other one? Is this one going to get ignored as badly as it and why don't we all just move over there and stop using this email list?

The forum can be set to send emails when new posts are made and it keeps all of the posts organized so people can go back and search old topics.

Is anyone interested in using my forum, the other forum or is everyone stuck on the email list?

Thanks,

Glenn


On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)> Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me.
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:35, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote: > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> > > Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded. > > Thoughts? > > -------- > Adam > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447422#447422 > > > > > > > > > > =========== br> ander-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List =========== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com =========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ===========



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:59 pm    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
Great to hear.

Glenn

On 09/27/2015 11:24 AM, Tylor Hall wrote:

[quote] Glen and Nico Jim is doing better and is going into surgery today some time.  This is to put his hip back together.
He was able to wiggle his toes and that is suppose to be good.

The meeting here in Colorado Springs went well and people are now leaving to go home.

Call me on my cell and I can tell you more.
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Nico, I also agree with Adam in that I absolutely hate Facebook.  The problem is that it's simply a gossip center where people go to talk and post pictures and videos.  It's not subject specific and trying to follow conversations or search for specific information is impossible.  I would like to see a forum that is specific to our common interests and that we can control better. As I mentioned, I've already created a forum at twincommandergroup.com and created a few sections for conversations.  There are a few things we all need to consider with a forum like this.  1) That more than one person be involved in the domain name so that when one of us passes on, the others can pickup the forum.  One possible solution is that one of you has registered twincommanders.com.  That could be pointed at my server and both domains would resolve to the same place for now but could be different later.  2) That the people involved have some sort of written agreement that if something were to happen to the person owning the server, that others can have it transferred to another server. 3) There are a couple options on the latter point, instead of me placing the forum on my own server I could just rent a server from one of the popular sites and we could place it there.  You will get into disk size limits and other possible problems in that situation as well as costs involved that I'm more than happy to foot at the moment.  I'm not rich but I do have the money to cover the server and operational costs.  I just want somewhere that we can all gather and discuss what interests us about the Commanders family and not have to join an email list that I have a hard time keeping track of conversations or Facebook where I have to filter through everything. I'm also very very sorry to hear about Jim.  The accident would seem to be some sort of catastrophic failure based on the accident report so far.  I can't believe an engine failure would cause something like that unless power was added after the failure.  I just purchased a 680F that I haven't begun to fly so am very interested in what happened.  I hope he recovers and gets back to flying soon. Feel free to contact me at 770 490 7899 any time. Glenn On 9/25/15 8:45 PM, Nico hMail wrote:
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Jim Metzger was critically injured earlier this week when N222JS crashed on landing at Boise ID airport.
 
The Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise said there is no person by that name in the hospital. Weird.
 
I am trying to get hold of Sue to give us an update as we are very concerned and shocked at this accident. Keep Jim and Sue in your prayers.
 
Read all about it with pictures and video:  https://www.facebook.com/COMMANDERFLIGHT
 
Nico
 
 
 
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Nico hMail Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 1:05 PM To: [url=mailto:commander-list(at)matronics.com]commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)[/url] Subject: RE: [matronics.com] Re: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?


 
The first time I posted this, it didn't get to the list…
 
Adam,
 
I still "own" the www.aerocommander.com domain, which is forwarded to www.twincommander.org where TCFG's web page is located. I put "own" in quotes because it really is the property of TCFG, which I just put on my ICANN register to manage the domain's DNS entries.
 
I also run/own the www.facebook.com/commanderflight facebook page. It is reasonably active, has more than 1,000 likes and the fans are from all over the globe. The best "reach" any posting had is the helicopter crash after an aerobatic maneuver, which stands at 89,000 and climbing by the thousands every day. The average is about 200-300 per posting. The facebook page accommodates posts from aviation in general but Aero Commanders in particular. Many of the articles, brochures, and other technical data were uploaded from the original CD's sent to me years ago by (I cannot recall) and are visible on the facebook page. There are tons of stuff there. The Metzger friends will be able to explain more about these resources as they have been intimately involved in shaping what these sites have become, not discounting others' contributions over the years. You will notice a distinct presence of turbines and piston Commanders there.
 
If it can be used, I'll transfer it wherever it can be used productively. The burden of the annual cost of renewal will have to follow the domain, too. I kept it up for a generation and it is not really used in its current form.
 
If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.
 
Thanks
 
Nico
 
 
 
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Glenn Hancock Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:08 AM To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com) Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

 
So I'm a bit confused:

1) There is already a site at http://www.flightlevelsonline.com/phpBB/  that seems dedicated to commanders but no one seems to use it.  I posted something there before finding this email list that to this day still has not been responded to.  Why?

2) I have created a new forum at twincommandersgroup.com and plan to leave it up as long as you guys want to use it but I guess the question is, why does no one use the other one?  Is this one going to get ignored as badly as it and why don't we all just move over there and stop using this email list?

The forum can be set to send emails when new posts are made and it keeps all of the posts organized so people can go back and search old topics.

Is anyone interested in using my forum, the other forum or is everyone stuck on the email list?

Thanks,

Glenn

 
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Eric Williams <[url=mailto:williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com]williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)[/url]> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: Eric Williams <[url=mailto:williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com]williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)[/url]> Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me.
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:35, stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)> wrote: > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "stratobee" <[url=mailto:adam(at)adamfrisch.com]adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)[/url]> > > Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded. > > Thoughts? > > -------- > Adam > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447422#447422 > > > > > > > > > > =========== br> ander-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List =========== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com =========== b Site -           -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ===========



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:18 am    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
Nico,

why don't you just point it at my server at twincommandergroup.com and
we'll just get the forum setup to be exactly what we want. I've already
started laying out groups for posts and if you guys can tell me what else
you'd like to see or different groupings and we'll just tweak it until its
perfect.

Just a thought,

Glenn

On Saturday, October 3, 2015, Nico hMail <nico(at)nicsysco.com> wrote:

[quote] So am I.

I just capitulated to some verbal diarrhea about Facebook, not necessarily
singing its praises.

The email list was working when it was the only practical medium. There
are so many more practical solutions out there today, it seems wise to use
them. The domain aerocommander.com is available if it is needed. I am
willing to promote such a closed group on my facebook page, which has
hundreds of Commander pilots from all over the world who would certainly
consider joining.

Nico

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I am in agreement with Keith and Glen.

Kindest regards,

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I'm not saying having a Facebook page with lots of people watching videos
isn't a good thing, it's just not what I'm interested in personally.

This email list doesn't work and is too hard to keep track of
conversations. It's also possible someone hits reply to a person instead
of the group and the entire conversation goes offline for a bit then pops
back in later with half the conversation missing.

so there we are: Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:02 am    Post subject: Jim Metzger and N222JS Reply with quote
Nico,

I also posted a link back to the facebook site from the forum.  I'm going to clean things up this week and make it look better, right now just trying to get the important parts up.

Thanks,

Glenn

On 9/25/15 8:45 PM, Nico hMail wrote:

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Jim Metzger was critically injured earlier this week when N222JS crashed on landing at Boise ID airport.
 
The Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise said there is no person by that name in the hospital. Weird.
 
I am trying to get hold of Sue to give us an update as we are very concerned and shocked at this accident. Keep Jim and Sue in your prayers.
 
Read all about it with pictures and video:  https://www.facebook.com/COMMANDERFLIGHT
 
Nico
 
 
 
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The first time I posted this, it didn't get to the list…
 
Adam,
 
I still "own" the www.aerocommander.com domain, which is forwarded to www.twincommander.org where TCFG's web page is located. I put "own" in quotes because it really is the property of TCFG, which I just put on my ICANN register to manage the domain's DNS entries.
 
I also run/own the www.facebook.com/commanderflight facebook page. It is reasonably active, has more than 1,000 likes and the fans are from all over the globe. The best "reach" any posting had is the helicopter crash after an aerobatic maneuver, which stands at 89,000 and climbing by the thousands every day. The average is about 200-300 per posting. The facebook page accommodates posts from aviation in general but Aero Commanders in particular. Many of the articles, brochures, and other technical data were uploaded from the original CD's sent to me years ago by (I cannot recall) and are visible on the facebook page. There are tons of stuff there. The Metzger friends will be able to explain more about these resources as they have been intimately involved in shaping what these sites have become, not discounting others' contributions over the years. You will notice a distinct presence of turbines and piston Commanders there.
 
If it can be used, I'll transfer it wherever it can be used productively. The burden of the annual cost of renewal will have to follow the domain, too. I kept it up for a generation and it is not really used in its current form.
 
If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.
 
Thanks
 
Nico
 
 
 
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Glenn Hancock
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To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Re: How can we get a vital Commander forum?

 
So I'm a bit confused:

1) There is already a site at http://www.flightlevelsonline.com/phpBB/  that seems dedicated to commanders but no one seems to use it.  I posted something there before finding this email list that to this day still has not been responded to.  Why?

2) I have created a new forum at twincommandersgroup.com and plan to leave it up as long as you guys want to use it but I guess the question is, why does no one use the other one?  Is this one going to get ignored as badly as it and why don't we all just move over there and stop using this email list?

The forum can be set to send emails when new posts are made and it keeps all of the posts organized so people can go back and search old topics.

Is anyone interested in using my forum, the other forum or is everyone stuck on the email list?

Thanks,

Glenn

 
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: Eric Williams <williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com (williams.ericlofton(at)gmail.com)>

Aerocommanders.com and twincommanders.com sound good to me.

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 19:35, stratobee <[url=mailto:adam(at)adamfrisch.com]adam(at)adamfrisch.com (adam(at)adamfrisch.com)[/url]> wrote:
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> Was looking at domains for it. Www.twincommanders.com is available, but it kind of suggest turbines are not welcome. Www.aerocommanders.com is available, and so is aerocommanderforum.com, but I'm not sure that was the correct manufacturing name for the models made under Rockwell and Gulfstream. Again, don't want to make anyone feel excluded.
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