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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:02 am    Post subject: Spare 52 Emergency Bottle? Reply with quote

Does anyone have a spare airworthy Yak 52 emergency air bottle they would consider loaning / selling me? Primary system is tight, but I have been through my emergency system more than once and am now semi-convinced the leak is the bottle itself. The leak is substantial (...to the tune of complete depletion in 36 hours) and I would like to temporarily install another bottle to see if it holds. I would be happy to pay a deposit or purchase outright for the right price.


Thank You!

Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G // Hangar #35 / AUW
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Hangar #21 / AUW





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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:47 am    Post subject: Spare 52 Emergency Bottle? Reply with quote

Rico,
We will have the new stainless steel Yak 52 bottles in stock in about 60
days.

Best,
Doug

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com>
wrote:

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Does anyone have a spare airworthy Yak 52 emergency air bottle they would
consider loaning / selling me? Primary system is tight, but I have been
through my emergency system more than once and am now semi-convinced the
leak is the bottle itself. The leak is substantial (...to the tune of
complete depletion in 36 hours) and I would like to temporarily install
another bottle to see if it holds. I would be happy to pay a deposit or
purchase outright for the right price.
Thank You!
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
Hangar #35 / AUW
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Hangar #21 / AUW
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:26 pm    Post subject: Spare 52 Emergency Bottle? Reply with quote

Rico there is only 2 places your bottle can leak from, the fitting and the water drain plug. Spray some soapy water on those two places.

I'm willing to bet it's either your emergency valve or your check valve, or one of the fittings in between.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
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Does anyone have a spare airworthy Yak 52 emergency air bottle they would consider loaning / selling me? Primary system is tight, but I have been through my emergency system more than once and am now semi-convinced the leak is the bottle itself. The leak is substantial (...to the tune of complete depletion in 36 hours) and I would like to temporarily install another bottle to see if it holds. I would be happy to pay a deposit or purchase outright for the right price.


Thank You!

Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.                  
Wausau, WI. 54401     
715.529.7426                    
                                                                    //
1966 Cessna 150F                            ^/---//-X
N8558G                                                  // Hangar #35 / AUW
                                                  //              
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52    ^/---//-X
N21YK                                   //
Hangar #21 / AUW
                                          




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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:34 pm    Post subject: Spare 52 Emergency Bottle? Reply with quote

While you are spraying soapy water. Put some on your Emergency shut off valve. Have you recently done a gear extension test using the ER system to blow your gear down?
Doc

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On Oct 21, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Rico there is only 2 places your bottle can leak from, the fitting and the water drain plug. Spray some soapy water on those two places.

I'm willing to bet it's either your emergency valve or your check valve, or one of the fittings in between.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Does anyone have a spare airworthy Yak 52 emergency air bottle they would consider loaning / selling me? Primary system is tight, but I have been through my emergency system more than once and am now semi-convinced the leak is the bottle itself. The leak is substantial (...to the tune of complete depletion in 36 hours) and I would like to temporarily install another bottle to see if it holds. I would be happy to pay a deposit or purchase outright for the right price.


Thank You!

Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
Wausau, WI. 54401 Â Â Â
715.529.7426 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
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1966 Cessna 150FÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ÂÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ^/---//-X
N8558G Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â // Hangar #35 / AUW
                         //          Â  Â
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52Â Â Â Â ^/---//-X
N21YK Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â //
Hangar #21 / AUW
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:49 am    Post subject: Spare 52 Emergency Bottle? Reply with quote

Rico,
Before you replace your emergency bottle, I'd like to suggest a test you
can do to determine if the leak is coming through the emergency air valve.
1 - Turn off the main air valve and make sure the emergency air valve is
also off tightly.
2 - Using the brake handle, squeeze off all the air out of the system
until you can not longer hear a "woosh" sound when you release the brake
handle.
3 - Make note of the air pressure in both the main and emergency system.
4 - Let the aircraft set for a least 4 hours. Overnight would be good.
5 - The next morning, squeeze the brake handle and if you hear a "woosh"
sound when the brake handle is released, one of the air valves, main or
emergency is leaking.
6 - Look at the air pressure instrument and see whether the main or
emergency air is less than what you left it at last night.
7 - Assuming the emergency air pressure has gone down, most likely you
have an emergency air valve leaking.
8 - If you remove the B nuts on the output side of the air valve and
spray some soapy water on the fitting, most likely it will bubble up.

Try this and let me know what you find.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 10/21/2015 2:56 PM, Rico Jaeger wrote:
Quote:

Does anyone have a spare airworthy Yak 52 emergency air bottle they
would consider loaning / selling me? Primary system is tight, but I
have been through my emergency system more than once and am now
semi-convinced the leak is the bottle itself. The leak is
substantial (...to the tune of complete depletion in 36 hours) and I
would like to temporarily install another bottle to see if it holds. I
would be happy to pay a deposit or purchase outright for the right price.
Thank You!
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
Hangar #35 / AUW
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Hangar #21 / AUW
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:52 am    Post subject: Spare 52 Emergency Bottle? Reply with quote

Actually, the bottle can develop a pin hole in it too. Very rare
though. Much less likely on a 52 than a CJ because the 52's emergency
system is isolated from the compressor. I actually had a pin hole in my
emergency air bottle a very long time ago.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 10/21/2015 4:22 PM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
Quote:
Rico there is only 2 places your bottle can leak from, the fitting and
the water drain plug. Spray some soapy water on those two places.

I'm willing to bet it's either your emergency valve or your check
valve, or one of the fittings in between.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com
<mailto:rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com>> wrote:

Does anyone have a spare airworthy Yak 52 emergency air bottle
they would consider loaning / selling me? Primary system is tight,
but I have been through my emergency system more than once and am
now semi-convinced the leak is the bottle itself. The leak is
substantial (...to the tune of complete depletion in 36 hours) and
I would like to temporarily install another bottle to see if it
holds. I would be happy to pay a deposit or purchase outright for
the right price.
Thank You!
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
Hangar #35 / AUW
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Hangar #21 / AUW
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