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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:20 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.

As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.

So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.

The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.

The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.

The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.

DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:22 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

Sounds like the perfect excuse to switch to electronic ignition!

DO NOT ARCHIVE


On Dec 6, 2015, at 12:16, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.

As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.

So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.

The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.

The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.

The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.

DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:40 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

Sure does. Just talked to my neighbor that just installed dual electronic. Has not started the engine yet. 
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On Dec 6, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Justin Jones <jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com (jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
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Sounds like the perfect excuse to switch to electronic ignition!

DO NOT ARCHIVE


On Dec 6, 2015, at 12:16, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.

As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.

So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.

The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.

The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.

The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.

DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:56 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

Please don't start that again you already lost.

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On Dec 6, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Justin Jones <jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com (jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Sounds like the perfect excuse to switch to electronic ignition!

DO NOT ARCHIVE


On Dec 6, 2015, at 12:16, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.

As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.

So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.

The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.

The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.

The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.

DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:00 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

I have been running the EFII system and couldn’t be happier! Just cover the mag holes altogether. What a great system!
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On Dec 6, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Flysrv10 <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Sure does. Just talked to my neighbor that just installed dual electronic. Has not started the engine yet.

Do not archive. Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Justin Jones <jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com (jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Sounds like the perfect excuse to switch to electronic ignition!

DO NOT ARCHIVE
On Dec 6, 2015, at 12:16, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.

As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.

So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.

The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.

The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.

The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.

DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:28 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

Has anyone installed the 6 cylinder P Mags now that they are finally available?
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I have been running the EFII system and couldn’t be happier! Just cover the mag holes altogether. What a great system!


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On Dec 6, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Flysrv10 <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:


Sure does. Just talked to my neighbor that just installed dual electronic. Has not started the engine yet.



Do not archive.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 6, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Justin Jones <jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com (jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Sounds like the perfect excuse to switch to electronic ignition!




DO NOT ARCHIVE



On Dec 6, 2015, at 12:16, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.



As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.



So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.



The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.



The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.



The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.



DO NOT ARCHIVE.













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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:32 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

I installed two Slicks on a newer Lycoming at work the other day.  The drive pads were a different design with tabs that engaged slots in the drive gears.  It was pretty easy to feel the pads snap into place, and once engaged they stayed in place really well.

I know in the past (my own plane in particular) I've battled trying to keep the pads in place while wresting the mags into the holes.  The new design makes it pretty easy.
--Dave
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.
As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.
So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.
The part no. for the cushions is LW13641.  I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out.  The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.
The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.
The mag components all checked out and everything looked good.  I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now.  Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:40 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

Think through your backup plan very carefully. A friend with one P mag
and one E mag had both damaged by a faulty VR, which allowed system
voltage around 20V. Both quit sparking at the same time. He had to make
the impossible turn, and luckily made it back to the runway.

On 12/6/2015 3:57 PM, Justin Jones wrote:
Quote:
I have been running the EFII system and couldn’t be happier! Just
cover the mag holes altogether. What a great system!
> On Dec 6, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Flysrv10 <flysrv10(at)gmail.com
> <mailto:flysrv10(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sure does. Just talked to my neighbor that just installed dual
> electronic. Has not started the engine yet.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 6, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Justin Jones <jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com
> <mailto:jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com>> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like the perfect excuse to switch to electronic ignition!
>>
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2015, at 12:16, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com
>> <mailto:flysrv10(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull
>>> the mags and take a look.
>>>
>>> As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive
>>> Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the
>>> mag hole.
>>>
>>> So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my
>>> pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.
>>>
>>> The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they
>>> are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts
>>> feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.
>>>
>>> The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during
>>> the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out
>>> while you are inserting the mag into the drive.
>>>
>>> The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I
>>> cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs
>>> very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with
>>> the engine miss or not.
>>>
>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <IMG_1918.jpeg>
>>> Rob Kermanj
>>>
>>>
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:40 pm    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

You don't happen to have the info on the p/n or manufacturer and compatibility with our IO-540's do you?
I've had mine out a couple times but have not replaced them and they're almost 1200 hours old so I figured I'd order 2 or 3 pairs, since I'll have 2 airplanes to care for.
Tim


On Dec 6, 2015, at 7:29 PM, David Saylor <saylor.dave(at)gmail.com (saylor.dave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
I installed two Slicks on a newer Lycoming at work the other day. The drive pads were a different design with tabs that engaged slots in the drive gears. It was pretty easy to feel the pads snap into place, and once engaged they stayed in place really well.

I know in the past (my own plane in particular) I've battled trying to keep the pads in place while wresting the mags into the holes. The new design makes it pretty easy.
--Dave
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.
As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.
So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.
The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.
The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.
The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:48 am    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

Tim,
Although having a fool-proof part is the way to go, the fuel lube solution works well but needs care to install.
If you can't fit the redesigned cushions in your installation, I would not hesitate to use fuel lube.
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On Dec 6, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
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You don't happen to have the info on the p/n or manufacturer and compatibility with our IO-540's do you?
I've had mine out a couple times but have not replaced them and they're almost 1200 hours old so I figured I'd order 2 or 3 pairs, since I'll have 2 airplanes to care for.
Tim


On Dec 6, 2015, at 7:29 PM, David Saylor <saylor.dave(at)gmail.com (saylor.dave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
I installed two Slicks on a newer Lycoming at work the other day. The drive pads were a different design with tabs that engaged slots in the drive gears. It was pretty easy to feel the pads snap into place, and once engaged they stayed in place really well.

I know in the past (my own plane in particular) I've battled trying to keep the pads in place while wresting the mags into the holes. The new design makes it pretty easy.
--Dave
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.
As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.
So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.
The part no. for the cushions is LW13641.  I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.
The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.
The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:57 am    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

I poked around and found Lyc Service Instruction 1299B. It has p/ns, pictures, applicability, yada yada. I'm not sure if they work on all Lycomings but the SI gives SN ranges. --D
On Sunday, December 6, 2015, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
Quote:
You don't happen to have the info on the p/n or manufacturer and compatibility with our IO-540's do you?
I've had mine out a couple times but have not replaced them and they're almost 1200 hours old so I figured I'd order 2 or 3 pairs, since I'll have 2 airplanes to care for.
Tim


On Dec 6, 2015, at 7:29 PM, David Saylor <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','saylor.dave(at)gmail.com');]saylor.dave(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
Quote:
I installed two Slicks on a newer Lycoming at work the other day.  The drive pads were a different design with tabs that engaged slots in the drive gears.  It was pretty easy to feel the pads snap into place, and once engaged they stayed in place really well.

I know in the past (my own plane in particular) I've battled trying to keep the pads in place while wresting the mags into the holes.  The new design makes it pretty easy.
--Dave
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rob Kermanj <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','flysrv10(at)gmail.com');]flysrv10(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
Quote:
On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.
As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.
So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.
The part no. for the cushions is LW13641.  I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out.  The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.
The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.
The mag components all checked out and everything looked good.  I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now.  Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:54 am    Post subject: Slick Mag 1100 hrs. Reply with quote

Just a clarification: The SB shows a new cushion design and a new mag drive as a matched set that prevents the cushions falling into the case during installation. The issue of the cushions getting brittle, breaking and falling into the case remains.
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On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:52 AM, David Saylor <saylor.dave(at)gmail.com (saylor.dave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I poked around and found Lyc Service Instruction 1299B. It has p/ns, pictures, applicability, yada yada. I'm not sure if they work on all Lycomings but the SI gives SN ranges. --DOn Sunday, December 6, 2015, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
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You don't happen to have the info on the p/n or manufacturer and compatibility with our IO-540's do you?
I've had mine out a couple times but have not replaced them and they're almost 1200 hours old so I figured I'd order 2 or 3 pairs, since I'll have 2 airplanes to care for.
Tim
On Dec 6, 2015, at 7:29 PM, David Saylor <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'saylor.dave(at)gmail.com\');]saylor.dave(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
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I installed two Slicks on a newer Lycoming at work the other day. The drive pads were a different design with tabs that engaged slots in the drive gears. It was pretty easy to feel the pads snap into place, and once engaged they stayed in place really well.
I know in the past (my own plane in particular) I've battled trying to keep the pads in place while wresting the mags into the holes. The new design makes it pretty easy.

--Dave

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rob Kermanj <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'flysrv10(at)gmail.com\');]flysrv10(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
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On my last flight, I felt a miss on climb out so I decided to pull the mags and take a look.

As soon as I pulled the mags, I noticed that pieces of Mag Drive Cushions were missing on both mags and I could not find them in the mag hole.

So I drained the oil and pull the Oil Suction Screen out and to my pleasant surprise, both pieces were found in the strainer.

The part no. for the cushions is LW13641. I recommend that they are replaced every time the mags are pulled out. The new parts feel soft and the old parts were brittle, I assume due to heat.

The cushions are held in place temporarily with fuel lube during the mag installation so you want to be sure they do not fall out while you are inserting the mag into the drive.

The mag components all checked out and everything looked good. I cleaned all the parts and replaced one rotor and the engine runs very smooth now. Not sure if the cushions had anything to do with the engine miss or not.

DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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