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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:44 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/09/16 |
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You people act like these are airplanes they are air carts not ment to fly any were but up and around!
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1. 10:29 AM - Re: Weight in one wing...? (Patrick Ladd)
2. 12:00 PM - Re: Weight in one wing...? (Charlie England)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 10:29:45 AM PST US
From: Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Weight in one wing...?
I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe with a plate>>
What the hell is that and why do you need it.Particularly if you are
adding 11 ozs. Totally ignorant. Pat
From: Nick Cassara
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 7:56 PM
Subject: Weight in one wing...?
Hello Kolber flyers,
I am covering my left wing. I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe
with a plate, that weights about 11oz, in the next bay out board of the
strut mount on my left wing. Should I add an equivalent amount of weight
in the right wing for balance?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
Kolbra #1 Prototype
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 12:00:15 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Weight in one wing...?
From: Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com>
LRI's are basically angle of attack indicators. I suppose you could
argue that you don't need them on an ultralite (type) a/c, but then, we
don't know how he intends to use the a/c. US Navy pilots depend on AOA
indicators to land on carriers safely, and some 'bush' pilots do, too.
As far as balance goes, odds are high that component tolerances and
build errors will easily mask an 11 oz weight difference. On a plane
with wing tanks, just over 0.1 gallons of fuel difference between tanks
would cause that much imbalance.
Charlie
On 1/9/2016 12:29 PM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
| Quote: | I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe with a plate>>
What the hell is that and why do you need it.Particularly if you are
adding 11 ozs. Totally ignorant. Pat
*From:* Nick Cassara <mailto:nickc(at)mtaonline.net>
*Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 7:56 PM
*To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list(at)matronics.com>
*Subject:* Weight in one wing...?
Hello Kolber flyers,
I am covering my left wing. I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe
with a plate, that weights about 11oz, in the next bay out board of
the strut mount on my left wing. Should I add an equivalent amount of
weight in the right wing for balance?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
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John Hauck
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:07 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/09/16 |
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Keith Callfas:
Where did you get your information on Kolbs?
Kolbs are definitely airplanes. They have fixed wings, an engine, and fly.
I don't know what you mean by up and around. I know a few Kolbs that have
flown and are still flying up and around all over the US, Canada, and
Alaska.
Are you familiar with Kolb aircraft?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:29 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/09/16 |
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Keith
Did you know you were posting to the Kolb list??? Many of our planes fly substantial distances. I was a bit insulted.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MkIII
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| Quote: | On Jan 10, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Keith Callfas <kkcmax(at)msn.com> wrote:
You people act like these are airplanes they are air carts not ment to fly any were but up and around!
--- Original Message ---
From: "Kolb-List Digest Server" <kolb-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: January 10, 2016 2:14 AM
To: "Kolb-List Digest List" <kolb-list-digest(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/09/16
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Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
==================================================
Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 16-01-09&Archive=Kolb
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http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 16-01-09&Archive=Kolb
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Total Messages Posted Sat 01/09/16: 2
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 10:29 AM - Re: Weight in one wing...? (Patrick Ladd)
2. 12:00 PM - Re: Weight in one wing...? (Charlie England)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 10:29:45 AM PST US
From: Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Weight in one wing...?
I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe with a plate>>
What the hell is that and why do you need it.Particularly if you are
adding 11 ozs. Totally ignorant. Pat
From: Nick Cassara
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 7:56 PM
Subject: Weight in one wing...?
Hello Kolber flyers,
I am covering my left wing. I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe
with a plate, that weights about 11oz, in the next bay out board of the
strut mount on my left wing. Should I add an equivalent amount of weight
in the right wing for balance?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
Kolbra #1 Prototype
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 12:00:15 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Weight in one wing...?
From: Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com>
LRI's are basically angle of attack indicators. I suppose you could
argue that you don't need them on an ultralite (type) a/c, but then, we
don't know how he intends to use the a/c. US Navy pilots depend on AOA
indicators to land on carriers safely, and some 'bush' pilots do, too.
As far as balance goes, odds are high that component tolerances and
build errors will easily mask an 11 oz weight difference. On a plane
with wing tanks, just over 0.1 gallons of fuel difference between tanks
would cause that much imbalance.
Charlie
> On 1/9/2016 12:29 PM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
> I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe with a plate>>
> What the hell is that and why do you need it.Particularly if you are
> adding 11 ozs. Totally ignorant. Pat
> *From:* Nick Cassara <mailto:nickc(at)mtaonline.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 7:56 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list(at)matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Weight in one wing...?
>
> Hello Kolber flyers,
>
> I am covering my left wing. I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe
> with a plate, that weights about 11oz, in the next bay out board of
> the strut mount on my left wing. Should I add an equivalent amount of
> weight in the right wing for balance?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Cassara
> Palmer, AK
>
> Kolbra #1 p; -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get
> Annual List below to Incentive Gifts
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/cThank
> you for your generous ; -Matt Dralle, List
> nbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronicp;
> the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> _p; generous bsp;
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:13 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/09/16 |
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Keith
Nothing personal, but you are VERY uninformed (AKA ignorant) about Kolbs.
Do a little research
Russ K
| Quote: | On Jan 10, 2016, at 2:28 PM, Keith Callfas <kkcmax(at)msn.com> wrote:
You people act like these are airplanes they are air carts not ment to fly any were but up and around!
--- Original Message ---
From: "Kolb-List Digest Server" <kolb-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: January 10, 2016 2:14 AM
To: "Kolb-List Digest List" <kolb-list-digest(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/09/16
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==================================================
Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
==================================================
Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 16-01-09&Archive=Kolb
Text Version:
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Total Messages Posted Sat 01/09/16: 2
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 10:29 AM - Re: Weight in one wing...? (Patrick Ladd)
2. 12:00 PM - Re: Weight in one wing...? (Charlie England)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 10:29:45 AM PST US
From: Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Weight in one wing...?
I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe with a plate>>
What the hell is that and why do you need it.Particularly if you are
adding 11 ozs. Totally ignorant. Pat
From: Nick Cassara
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 7:56 PM
Subject: Weight in one wing...?
Hello Kolber flyers,
I am covering my left wing. I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe
with a plate, that weights about 11oz, in the next bay out board of the
strut mount on my left wing. Should I add an equivalent amount of weight
in the right wing for balance?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, AK
Kolbra #1 Prototype
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 12:00:15 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Weight in one wing...?
From: Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com>
LRI's are basically angle of attack indicators. I suppose you could
argue that you don't need them on an ultralite (type) a/c, but then, we
don't know how he intends to use the a/c. US Navy pilots depend on AOA
indicators to land on carriers safely, and some 'bush' pilots do, too.
As far as balance goes, odds are high that component tolerances and
build errors will easily mask an 11 oz weight difference. On a plane
with wing tanks, just over 0.1 gallons of fuel difference between tanks
would cause that much imbalance.
Charlie
On 1/9/2016 12:29 PM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
> I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe with a plate>>
> What the hell is that and why do you need it.Particularly if you are
> adding 11 ozs. Totally ignorant. Pat
> *From:* Nick Cassara <mailto:nickc(at)mtaonline.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 7:56 PM
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list(at)matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Weight in one wing...?
>
> Hello Kolber flyers,
>
> I am covering my left wing. I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe
> with a plate, that weights about 11oz, in the next bay out board of
> the strut mount on my left wing. Should I add an equivalent amount of
> weight in the right wing for balance?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Cassara
> Palmer, AK
>
> Kolbra #1 p; -- Please Support Your Lists This Month (And Get
> Annual List below to Incentive Gifts
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/cThank
> you for your generous ; -Matt Dralle, List
> nbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronicp;
> the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> _p; generous bsp;
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================
>
>
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:20 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/09/16 |
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No they only fly short hops like this:
http://www.kolbaircraft.com/johnhauck2.htm
| Quote: | On Jan 10, 2016, at 12:28 , Keith Callfas <kkcmax(at)msn.com (kkcmax(at)msn.com)> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Keith Callfas <kkcmax(at)msn.com (kkcmax(at)msn.com)>You people act like these are airplanes they are air carts not ment to fly any were but up and around!--- Original Message ---From: "Kolb-List Digest Server" <kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)>Sent: January 10, 2016 2:14 AMTo: "Kolb-List Digest List" <kolb-list-digest(at)matronics.com (kolb-list-digest(at)matronics.com)>Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 01/09/16* Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of thetwo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formattedin HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexesand Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII versionof the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editorsuch as Notepad or with a web browser.HTML Version: patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com (patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com)>Subject: Re: Weight in one wing...?I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probe with a plate>>What the hell is that and why do you need it.Particularly if you areadding 11 ozs. Totally ignorant. PatFrom: Nick CassaraSent: Monday, January 4, 2016 7:56 PMSubject: Weight in one wing...?Hello Kolber flyers,I am covering my left wing. I installed a Lift Reserve Indicator probewith a plate, that weights about 11oz, in the next bay out board of thestrut mount on my left wing. Should I add an equivalent amount of weightin the right wing for balance?Thanks,Nick CassaraPalmer, AKKolbra #1 Prototype________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________Time: 12:00:15 PM PST USSubject: Re: Weight in one wing...?From: Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com (ceengland7(at)gmail.com)>LRI's are basically angle of attack indicators. I suppose you couldargue that you don't need them on an ultralite (type) a/c, but then, wedon't know how he intends to use the a/c. US Navy pilots depend on AOAindicators to land on carriers safely, and some 'bush' pilots do, too.As far as balance goes, odds are high that component tolerances andbuild errors will easily mask an 11 oz weight difference. On a planewith wing tanks, just over 0.1 gallons of fuel difference between tankswould cause that much imbalance.CharlieOn 1/9/2016 12:29 PM, Patrick Ladd wrote:
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