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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:38 pm    Post subject: Flaperons on the Slingshot Reply with quote

I was looking through pictures today, and I noticed photos showing a "flap" handle in a Slingshot. But looking at the exterios photos I saw that there was only one control surface behind each wing.

This would mean that the Slingshot, or at least this one, had a flaperon control mixer.

Was this a standard control setup for the Slingshot, or was this one airplane modified with flaperons?

Does anyone have and information about this system, and how it operates?

Does anyone knoow whether the flaperons were beneficial and how much they halped on the fast or slow end of the speed range?

Bill Berle
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"John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>

Yep, that is the one.  Was a nice looking MKIII. 
Must still be like brand new with so few hours on it.
Mine shows a lot of fair wear and tear, but still flies
well.  In fact, I have gotten off my butt and hit the
air ways this past Saturday.  Got 1.5 hours of really
fun flying although the wind was blowing, I still managed to
make it home without bending anything.

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama




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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Flaperons on the Slingshot Reply with quote

From this video, it appears that most, if not all, Kolb Slingshots incorporate flaperons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMZ5LJ8IvBc

I dunno' about flaperons on a Slingshot, but I modified my clipped wing Firestar II to accommodate flaperons with linkage modeled after the Kolb Firefly. It worked well. The reason I wanted flaperons is that they very much helped me to (almost) meet FAA requirements for an ultralight vehicle; specifically, AC 103-7, appendix 2. I am fairly sure that this is the main reason that flaperons were incorporated into Firefly design. Personally, I found the flaperons to be of little use on an already slow landing draggy airplane; err..., I mean "vehicle". Your mileage may vary.

My guess is that flaperons may well benefit the faster Slingshot. In any event, take a close look at the Firefly and its very simple lightweight flaperon mechanism that you may be able to use. Thank you, Homer.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:38 am    Post subject: Flaperons on the Slingshot Reply with quote

I carried a cameraman and huge video camera on that flight.
Not much room in the Slingshot for two folks. He had to put
the front of the camera on my right shoulder. The Slingshot
performed well with the 65 hp 582. At that time I was still
not accustomed to the short, stubby 22' wings.

Today you stick a Go Pro on the nose to get video in flight.

The flaperons on the FF and SS were not nearly effective as
the flaps on the MKIII.

This video is the year Kolb introduced the updated MKIIIx
with droop wing tips at Sun and Fun. You get a good idea
how large the flaps are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6LjOighew8

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:11 am    Post subject: Flaperons on the Slingshot Reply with quote

I might add it didn't take long to get used to those little
wings and lift struts which were very capable. Both the SS
and the FF are little hot rods. Very quick response and
high performance.

john h
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Titus, Alabama


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