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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:40 pm    Post subject: fused or not...now keeping noise out..do caps work? Reply with quote

Bob,
In the same vein...
After having a new intercom fitted in my radio stack, I have developed a serious amount of radio noise as soon as the rpm's hit the 2000 mark. The sq button has no effect on the severity of this noise. It is as if a source is transmitting to the radio!
I am told that adding a 22000 microfarad cap across the power feed to the radios will solve this problem.
What says the brains trust?

On 27 March 2016 at 19:39, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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At 07:33 AM 3/27/2016, you wrote:
Quote:
thanks guys for the info. i am told it is to keep noise out of the ecu.
 bob noffs

  That IS the legacy rationale for adding such things
  and it's a deeply rooted idea did
  a failure analysis on a modern, 100A alternator
  that came equipped from the factory with a 680uF
  electrolytic capacitor mounted right to the back
  of the alternator.

        
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  I am quite certain that noise from this alternator on
  EMC laboratory equipment would not be materially
  reduced for having added the capacitor. I'd
  LOVE to see an EMC test report that illuminates
  the 'benefit'.
 
  I just purchased a spectrum analyzer that sweeps
  down to 1Hz and up to 2.4 Ghz. When I begin
  development testing on the next generation of
  PM alternator rectifier/regulators for B&C I will
  quantify the value of adding this component
  to our airplanes.




  Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:27 am    Post subject: fused or not...now keeping noise out..do caps work? Reply with quote

Is that the actual size of the capacitor for that application?

Rich Ulmen

On Mar 28, 2016, at 1:38 AM, Bob Verwey <bob.verwey(at)gmail.com (bob.verwey(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Bob,
In the same vein...
After having a new intercom fitted in my radio stack, I have developed a serious amount of radio noise as soon as the rpm's hit the 2000 mark. The sq button has no effect on the severity of this noise. It is as if a source is transmitting to the radio!
I am told that adding a 22000 microfarad cap across the power feed to the radios will solve this problem.
What says the brains trust?

On 27 March 2016 at 19:39, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
Quote:
At 07:33 AM 3/27/2016, you wrote:
Quote:
thanks guys for the info. i am told it is to keep noise out of the ecu.
 bob noffs

That IS the legacy rationale for adding such things
and it's a deeply rooted idea did
a failure analysis on a modern, 100A alternator
that came equipped from the factory with a 680uF
electrolytic capacitor mounted right to the back
of the alternator.


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I am quite certain that noise from this alternator on
EMC laboratory equipment would not be materially
reduced for having added the capacitor. I'd
LOVE to see an EMC test report that illuminates
the 'benefit'.

I just purchased a spectrum analyzer that sweeps
down to 1Hz and up to 2.4 Ghz. When I begin
development testing on the next generation of
PM alternator rectifier/regulators for B&C I will
quantify the value of adding this component
to our airplanes.




Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:30 am    Post subject: fused or not...now keeping noise out..do caps work? Reply with quote

Rich, this is what was recommended by the avionics shop

On Monday, March 28, 2016, <rich.ulmen(at)gmail.com (rich.ulmen(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Is that the actual size of the capacitor for that application?   

Rich Ulmen

On Mar 28, 2016, at 1:38 AM, Bob Verwey <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bob.verwey(at)gmail.com');]bob.verwey(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
Quote:
Bob,
In the same vein...
After having a new intercom fitted in my radio stack, I have developed a serious amount of radio noise as soon as the rpm's hit the 2000 mark. The sq button has no effect on the severity of this noise. It is as if a source is transmitting to the radio!
I am told that adding a 22000 microfarad cap across the power feed to the radios will solve this problem.
What says the brains trust?

On 27 March 2016 at 19:39, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com');]nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com[/url]> wrote:
Quote:
At 07:33 AM 3/27/2016, you wrote:
Quote:
thanks guys for the info. i am told it is to keep noise out of the ecu.
 bob noffs

  That IS the legacy rationale for adding such things
  and it's a deeply rooted idea did
  a failure analysis on a modern, 100A alternator
  that came equipped from the factory with a 680uF
  electrolytic capacitor mounted right to the back
  of the alternator.

        
<15a1d98e.jpg>

  I am quite certain that noise from this alternator on
  EMC laboratory equipment would not be materially
  reduced for having added the capacitor. I'd
  LOVE to see an EMC test report that illuminates
  the 'benefit'.
 
  I just purchased a spectrum analyzer that sweeps
  down to 1Hz and up to 2.4 Ghz. When I begin
  development testing on the next generation of
  PM alternator rectifier/regulators for B&C I will
  quantify the value of adding this component
  to our airplanes.




  Bob . . .


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