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Larlaeb

Joined: 02 Apr 2013
Posts: 75
Location: League City, Texas United States

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:38 pm Post subject: Short Field Landings

Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit.  I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things.   There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway.   I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous.   On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground.   All these were made with full flaps.  I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do.  Hopefully you won't find it too boring.



https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit

Thanks,

Allan

byoungplumbing(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:17 pm Post subject: Short Field Landings

I did the same thing years back,,, got so I could set it down within 20 to 30 ft.Â Â  Every time.Â Â  Probably should do it again.Â Â Â  I liked the picture in picture.Â  What editing software? 

BoydÂ  Young 

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 Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit. Â I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things. Â  There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway. Â  I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous. Â  On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground. Â  All these were made with full flaps. Â I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do. Â Hopefully you won't find it too boring.

  

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Joined: 09 Mar 2008
Posts: 338
Location: Western PA

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:52 pm Post subject: Short Field Landings

Great looking bird.

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Dennis "Skid" Rowe

Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA



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 Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit.  I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things.   There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway.   I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous.   On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground.   All these were made with full flaps.  I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do.  Hopefully you won't find it too boring.

 

 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit

 

 

 Thanks,

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williamtsullivan(at)att.n
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:16 am Post subject: Short Field Landings

That was very nice.  Liked both the control panel, and the inset screen.  Do more!



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 "Larlaeb" <larlaeb(at)gmail.com>

 

 Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit.  I

 setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground

 side of things.   There was basically no wind

 at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the

 threshold of the runway.   I seldom actually

 hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end

 and they make me nervous.   On all the

 landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not

 touched until I was on the ground.   All

 these were made with full flaps.  I'm sharing this not

 because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see,

 but because it was fun to do.  Hopefully you won't find

 it too boring.

 

 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit

 

 

 Thanks,

 Allan

 

 

 

 

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Larlaeb

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Location: League City, Texas United States

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings

I've used a number of editing software packages looking for one that is relatively easy to use and still has the features I want.  I'm currently using Pinnacle Studio 17 largely because I had a friend who let me see his training video and I have come to like it pretty well but with these things I think it's mainly what you get used to.  I tried Corel Video Studio, CyberLink PowerDirector, Avidemux and a few others.  I think the Corel was probably the easiest but all of them seem to have strong and weak areas so when I actually purchased one I just chose one with the features I wanted and determined to spend the time to learn it.  It's still a struggle because I don't use it often enough to stay up on everything.  They all seem to take time to do a decent job and I'm still way back on that curve.  



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Allan

lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:42 am Post subject: Short Field Landings

I liked your video, and thought that the instruments being visible when you were doing the landings was nice. For that particular video especially. With my intended applications, it wouldn't work. I guess what I liked about both your software and mine is the ability to record it in MPEG 4, which seems to be the sharpest format. Perhaps you can do some more videos soon.  Larry



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 I've used a number of editing software packages looking for one that is relatively easy to use and still has the features I want. Â I'm currently using Pinnacle Studio 17 largely because I had a friend who let me see his training video and I have come to like it pretty well but with these things I think it's mainly what you get used to. Â I tried Corel Video Studio, CyberLink PowerDirector, Avidemux and a few others. Â I think the Corel was probably the easiest but all of them seem to have strong and weak areas so when I actually purchased one I just chose one with the features I wanted and determined to spend the time to learn it. Â It's still a struggle because I don't use it often enough to stay up on everything. Â They all seem to take time to do a decent job and I'm still way back on that curve.

  

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Larlaeb

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Location: League City, Texas United States

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings

The GPS info is just an included file that is combined using the camera software prior to any other editing if desired.  I actually think that for what I was trying to do that just a view of the flight instruments would have been more helpful but this looks cool.. lol.

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:08 am Post subject: Short Field Landings

On 7/1/2014 9:38 PM, Larlaeb wrote:

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 Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit.  I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things.   There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway.   I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous.   On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground.   All these were made with full flaps.  I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do.  Hopefully you won't find it too boring.



 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit

 Thanks,

 Allan



Love the format. Seeing the cockpit view, flight data, and the ground 
	


perspective at the same time is really nice.



On the subject of power lines, have you thought about contacting the 

power company to have their 'orange balls' added to the lines? They will 

probably try to charge you, but one of the original members of my 

airpark pitched it this way: when they asked for payment, he pointed out 

that the power company owned the lines, and if someone couldn't see them 

& it caused a crash, the power company would be liable. They installed 

the balls for free.



Charlie

Larlaeb

Joined: 02 Apr 2013
Posts: 75
Location: League City, Texas United States

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings

Yes that has been discussed with the field management and I have made that suggestion myself.   The portion of the field that I was landing on is not actually owned by the airport but is an extension which is privately owned.  Typically I land on the 'actual' strip which is another 5 or 6 hundred feet further on.  I think the balls would be a great thing to have in any case especially for folks trying to land there who aren't familiar with the place.  



Thanks,

Allan

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:30 am Post subject: Short Field Landings

The old guys sideslipped before flaps

roy



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 Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit. Â I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things. Â  There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway. Â  I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous. Â  On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground. Â  All these were made with full flaps. Â I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do. Â Hopefully you won't find it too boring.

  

 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit

 

 

 Thanks,

 Allan

 

 	


 Love the format. Seeing the cockpit view, flight data, and the ground perspective at the same time is really nice.

 

 On the subject of power lines, have you thought about contacting the power company to have their 'orange balls' added to the lines? They will probably try to charge you, but one of the original members of my airpark pitched it this way: when they asked for payment, he pointed out that the power company owned the lines, and if someone couldn't see them & it caused a crash, the power company would be liable. They installed the balls for free.

  

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FiascoDave

Joined: 06 Dec 2014
Posts: 5
Location: southern Oregon

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings

Allan,



May I ask what video app did you use to film your short field landings work with that gave real-time airspeed, track etc?



Thanx,



Dave

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olendorf

Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 140
Location: Schenectady, NY USA

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings

I tried to find the boring part but was unable.  I was surprised at the amount  of tailwheeel flutter at  3:19.  I guess that's why we use springs.

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w0odi

Joined: 05 Apr 2015
Posts: 20
Location: Ozarks Hills

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings

I thought it was an excellent video.. Thanks for sharing..

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