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cgroote1(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:11 pm Post subject: EFB's

I haven't heard much lately on the list about EFB comparisons - FF, WingX, FlyQ, etc. I'd like to get traffic on my iPad from my NavWorx ADS600B but Foreflight (which I've used for a number of years, and like) doesn't support it. Any suggestions?

Curtis Groote

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:44 pm Post subject: EFB's

Curtis,



Foreflight doesn't support Navworx yet, but I have it on good authority that this should change by Oshkosh. If you are comfortable with Foreflight and can wait another couple of months, then it may be worth waiting. 



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

352-427-0285

jesse(at)saintaviation.com



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		   On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Curtis Groote <cgroote1(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 I haven't heard much lately on the list about EFB comparisons - FF, WingX, FlyQ, etc. I'd like to get traffic on my iPad from my NavWorx ADS600B but Foreflight (which I've used for a number of years, and like) doesn't support it. Any suggestions?

 

 

 Curtis Groote

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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 4:39 am Post subject: EFB's

I have a Navworx box and use FF so I'm looking forward to support of 

traffic and weather on the iPad as well.



However, I've been flying with Navworx traffic and weather displayed on 

my GRT EFIS's.  Given close to 5 years of experience with this setup, I 

doubt whether I will spend another $$ on getting the information on my 

iPad.  Why?  Traffic and weather, especially traffic, is something I 

want to primarily see on my EFIS map and PFD display.  That's where I 

do  my actually flying and it's closer to my out the window view where 

I'm trying to cross check both traffic and wx.  Of course, sometimes 

that view outside is somewhat limited....



OTOH, I completely depend on my FF iPad for charts, plates and 

planning.  I made a significant effort to mount it right under my right 

hand.  I even use it to copy clearances.  I have no desire to see 

traffic on it.  Nexrad imagery would be nice for planning purposes but 

I'm able to do that by cross referencing with my EFIS map.  Having 

Nexrad imagery and the rest of the wx  on the iPad would be nice but at 

this point, it's not worth $2 more than I've already spent.



Don't know your panel setup but just another experience to consider.



Bill "wondering if FF's Navworx support will include my ADS600-EXP box" 

Watson

On 4/30/2016 10:10 PM, Curtis Groote wrote:

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 I haven't heard much lately on the list about EFB comparisons - FF, WingX, FlyQ, etc. I'd like to get traffic on my iPad from my NavWorx ADS600B but Foreflight (which I've used for a number of years, and like) doesn't support it. Any suggestions?

 Curtis Groote

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 5:18 am Post subject: EFB's

Not to start a fight.........but Wing X connected to Navworx is my go to in

flight.  Weather, traffic, and all the other data at your finger tip.  I

love all the data on my GRT, but when I am in the air I like to use the

EFFIS to fly the airplane and the IPAD to look out beyond what is next to

me.......



I was already a Wing X user.......



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 5:55 am Post subject: EFB's

I basically agree with Bill Watson, myself. I think WX and traffic are important to have available on the MFD, so I have them there, you don't want to have to look down or away to deal with traffic, and having the WX display on your MFD allows you to deviate around it with vectors from ATC and see it all happen.  I think you can get by without it on the iPad though...but you don't have to, so why not have it both places. With the current NavWorX software you have two serial outputs, so one goes to the EFIS and one to a wifi adapter, and that gives you both.  It's very simple to wire up.



When it comes to apps, I have WingX, Foreflight, and FlyQ.  With FlyQ I have a lifetime subscription...so I would love it if I could say they are as stable and good as the others....but they aren't.  They were doing well until their last version upgrade.  It crashes too much (I think due to some NavWorX data stream info) for me to recommend it right now.  WingX is easily my favorite for in flight and approach use.  Foreflight is easily my favorite for pre-flight planning.  If you have to have just one app, I would lean towards Foreflight because it is so good at preflight planning and plan filing.  But if you are mainly concerned with flying approaches I would use wingX.  I like it enough that I recently paid another 3 year subscription for it, as it is very handy for inflight use.

Hopefully by the time the subscription is up, FlyQ will be all working perfectly.



ForeFlights biggest problem is its "closed-ness" in not supporting all ADS-B systems.  If they support them all, it would be much harder to pick a different software, as at that point it's just the fact that for in flight approach loading it would be slower and more clumsy...but do-able.

Tim



[quote] On May 1, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Rene <rene(at)felker.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Not to start a fight.........but Wing X connected to Navworx is my go to in

 flight.  Weather, traffic, and all the other data at your finger tip.  I

 love all the data on my GRT, but when I am in the air I like to use the

 EFFIS to fly the airplane and the IPAD to look out beyond what is next to

 me.......

 

 I was already a Wing X user.......

 

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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: EFB's

Another vote for Bill.

I use a Skyradar D2 which sends traffic and weather to both my GRT HX (usually I split the screen) and iPad with WingX. I only use the iPad if someone else is flying and I want to play around with it. Great backup, though.

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