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carling s700 (another question)

 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:52 am    Post subject: carling s700 (another question) Reply with quote

Sorry to hijack the thread ---
But while were are talking switches: I thought I could sort any 2-10 wiring out: but I have a problem, is it possible to wire this 'wig-wag' device
http://www.periheliondesign.com/wigwagmnl.htm
to give me, with a three position switch: Off - on (both) - wig-wag
with a 2-10 or any switch for that matter
Regards
John

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On 30 Apr 2016, at 08:18 pm, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
Quote:
At 07:09 AM 4/30/2016, you wrote:
Quote:
For some reason I am really getting confused about the. Batt/master switch and how it is wired. I am using a clarling toggle, S2077 I believe. It has three positions. I think this switch is a On/On/On type. You want one position for everything off. One for Battery only and one for Battery and Alternator. When I look at the diagram of the switch for page Z-11 it appears that one position connects the Battery only, one connects the battery and the Alt. and one is off. It appears that the one position connects with Term 3 and six which are used as the off position.

Am I even close on this ?

Z13/8 doesn't show a progressive transfer battery
master. It shows a simple DC master ON/OFF wherein
the alternator can be disabled by pulling the field
breaker. The switch called out is the simple
DPDT/ON-ON S700-2-3 device (B&C part number)

<8b672cc.jpg>


Figure Z-11 shows the progressive transfer
S700-2-10 switch that emulated the split rocker
switch popularized on many single engine aircraft
over the years.
<8b67339.jpg>

Examination of the schematic symbol illustrates
internal functionality of the DP3T/ON-ON-ON
device.

EITHER style of switch can be used . . .



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: carling s700 (another question) Reply with quote

It seems that you want to wire the wig wag as shown in Eric's diagram "B".
You can use a DP3T ON-ON-ON switch as shown in the diagram. Down position will be off. Mouser part number 633-M204401. Do NOT use the 2-10 progressive transfer switch.
Or you can use a 3 position ON-OFF-ON DPDT switch with center off.
Make sure there are no parentheses in the ON-OFF-ON description because parentheses indicate a momentary switch position.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:59 pm    Post subject: carling s700 (another question) Reply with quote

Diagram “B” on the page you linked gives the operation you’ve described.

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Sorry to hijack the thread ---



But while were are talking switches: I thought I could sort any 2-10 wiring out: but I have a problem, is it possible to wire this 'wig-wag' device



http://www.periheliondesign.com/wigwagmnl.htm





to give me, with a three position switch: Off - on (both) - wig-wag





with a 2-10 or any switch for that matter





Regards





John

Sent from my iPad


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On 30 Apr 2016, at 08:18 pm, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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At 07:09 AM 4/30/2016, you wrote:


For some reason I am really getting confused about the. Batt/master switch and how it is wired. I am using a clarling toggle, S2077 I believe. It has three positions. I think this switch is a On/On/On type. You want one position for everything off. One for Battery only and one for Battery and Alternator. When I look at the diagram of the switch for page Z-11 it appears that one position connects the Battery only, one connects the battery and the Alt. and one is off. It appears that the one position connects with Term 3 and six which are used as the off position.

Am I even close on this ?

Z13/8 doesn't show a progressive transfer battery
master. It shows a simple DC master ON/OFF wherein
the alternator can be disabled by pulling the field
breaker. The switch called out is the simple
DPDT/ON-ON S700-2-3 device (B&C part number)

<8b672cc.jpg>


Figure Z-11 shows the progressive transfer
S700-2-10 switch that emulated the split rocker
switch popularized on many single engine aircraft
over the years.
<8b67339.jpg>

Examination of the schematic symbol illustrates
internal functionality of the DP3T/ON-ON-ON
device.

EITHER style of switch can be used . . .


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