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art(at)zemon.name
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 7:29 am Post subject: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

Folks,



I was about to order tools but thought that I ought to check here first, and see if any of you want to shed an excess tool or two. So far, I know that I need:

Wire stripper such as the Stripmaster that strips 16-26 AWG
Coax connector crimper, specifically to put connectors on RG-58I am part way through building a wire book so I don't have definite lengths for various kinds of wire but here is what I have so far:

RG-58, roughly 70 feet
18 AWG red and black wire, a bunch
22 AWG (or so) signal wire, single strand, twisted pairs, whatever, a bunch more
Faston connectors, solder type, a bunch
Let me know if I can help you clean out your basement 

Â  Â  -- Art Z.

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donvansanten(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:48 pm Post subject: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

No tools for sale, but a few suggestions.

 1 replace the rg58 with rg400. 58 IIRC is solid core and breaks easily from vibration.

 2 replace solder on fast on with real AMP crimp on faston. The solder on are hard to keep the solder from wicking up the wire resulting in a hard point that will break from vibration. 

Just my .02 cents worth. On May 4, 2016 8:37 AM, "Art Zemon" <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  Folks,



I was about to order tools but thought that I ought to check here first, and see if any of you want to shed an excess tool or two. So far, I know that I need:

Wire stripper such as the Stripmaster that strips 16-26 AWG
Coax connector crimper, specifically to put connectors on RG-58I am part way through building a wire book so I don't have definite lengths for various kinds of wire but here is what I have so far:

RG-58, roughly 70 feet
18 AWG red and black wire, a bunch
22 AWG (or so) signal wire, single strand, twisted pairs, whatever, a bunch more
Faston connectors, solder type, a bunch
Let me know if I can help you clean out your basement 

Â  Â  -- Art Z.

-- 

http://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel

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ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:32 pm Post subject: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

Neither is precisely correct. RG58 is available both solid & stranded, and crimps have stress risers just like soldered connectors. Crimps are a lot faster (and more expensive), though.

-------- Original message --------

From: don van santen  

Date:05/04/2016  3:45 PM  (GMT-06:00) 

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com 

Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff 

No tools for sale, but a few suggestions.

 1 replace the rg58 with rg400. 58 IIRC is solid core and breaks easily from vibration.

 2 replace solder on fast on with real AMP crimp on faston. The solder on are hard to keep the solder from wicking up the wire resulting in a hard point that will break from vibration. 

Just my .02 cents worth. On May 4, 2016 8:37 AM, "Art Zemon" <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  Folks,

I was about to order tools but thought that I ought to check here first, and see if any of you want to shed an excess tool or two. So far, I know that I need:

Wire stripper such as the Stripmaster that strips 16-26 AWG
Coax connector crimper, specifically to put connectors on RG-58I am part way through building a wire book so I don't have definite lengths for various kinds of wire but here is what I have so far:

RG-58, roughly 70 feet
18 AWG red and black wire, a bunch
22 AWG (or so) signal wire, single strand, twisted pairs, whatever, a bunch more
Faston connectors, solder type, a bunch
Let me know if I can help you clean out your basement 

    -- Art Z.

-- 

http://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:50 pm Post subject: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

I would like to vote for the crimp.Â  Properly done aircraft quality faston all but totally eliminate the stress risers and are much easier to get right for the normal person.Â  I used a lot of Solder in my airplane and I worry about those connections much more than my fastons. Â Â But there is a time and place for everything.Â  Pick the best solution you can for each task.

 

Rene'

801-721-6080



 

From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England

Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 3:31 PM

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

 

Neither is precisely correct. RG58 is available both solid & stranded, and crimps have stress risers just like soldered connectors. Crimps are a lot faster (and more expensive), though.

-------- Original message --------



From: don van santen 



Date:05/04/2016 3:45 PM (GMT-06:00) 



To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com) 



Subject: Re: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff 



 



No tools for sale, but a few suggestions.

1 replace the rg58 with rg400. 58 IIRC is solid core and breaks easily from vibration.

2 replace solder on fast on with real AMP crimp on faston. The solder on are hard to keep the solder from wicking up the wire resulting in a hard point that will break from vibration.

Just my .02 cents worth.

On May 4, 2016 8:37 AM, "Art Zemon" <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:

Folks,

 



I was about to order tools but thought that I ought to check here first, and see if any of you want to shed an excess tool or two. So far, I know that I need:

Wire stripper such as the Stripmaster that strips 16-26 AWG
Coax connector crimper, specifically to put connectors on RG-58

I am part way through building a wire book so I don't have definite lengths for various kinds of wire but here is what I have so far:

RG-58, roughly 70 feet
18 AWG red and black wire, a bunch
22 AWG (or so) signal wire, single strand, twisted pairs, whatever, a bunch more
Faston connectors, solder type, a bunch

Let me know if I can help you clean out your basement 



 



    -- Art Z.



 



-- 

http://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/



"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel

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art(at)zemon.name
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 2:02 pm Post subject: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

Please folks... I'm not trying to start arguments about construction materials or techniques. Unless you have self-installing cable or connectors... you know, the ones where you pour them onto the floor and drink beer while they assemble themselves into a flawless wiring harness.. pre-installed inside the airplane. 



Seriously, I'm just looking to buy stuff, not debate anything.

Thanks,

Â  Â  -- Art Z.



On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:45 PM, don van santen <donvansanten(at)gmail.com (donvansanten(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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No tools for sale, but a few suggestions. 	


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stein(at)steinair.com
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 2:31 pm Post subject: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

Hey----we have those!Â  All it takes is a small monetary considerationâ€¦Â Â Â Â  J

 

Cheers,

Stein

 

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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Art Zemon

Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 5:02 PM

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

 

â€¦â€¦..Unless you have self-installing cable or connectors... you know, the ones where you pour them onto the floor and drink beer while they assemble themselves into a flawless wiring harness... pre-installed inside the airplane. 

 



Thanks,



    -- Art Z.

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Kellym

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Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:10 pm Post subject: WTB Wiring Tools & Stuff

RG-58 comes in both versions, solid and braided. In most cases, properly 

supported cable has next to no flexing. It is a fine, and much cheaper 

solution for VHF frequencies unless there is a noise generator nearby. 

Insulation material isn't as good as RG-400, and only single shield. 

however I have seen many a type certified aircraft with factory original 

RG-58 that is still performing fine.

However, for transponders, DME and GPS you need better materials, better 

shielding because they are operating in the 1 Ghz freq range. RG-142 was 

used for a long time, with, IIRC solid core.

RG-400 is braided, more flexible, lighter and well shielded.

Just depends on your budget and application. about 50 cents vs 3-4 bucks 

a foot.



On 5/4/2016 1:45 PM, don van santen wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   No tools for sale, but a few suggestions.

 1 replace the rg58 with rg400. 58 IIRC is solid core and breaks easily

 from vibration.

 2 replace solder on fast on with real AMP crimp on faston. The solder on

 are hard to keep the solder from wicking up the wire resulting in a hard

 point that will break from vibration.



 Just my .02 cents worth.



 On May 4, 2016 8:37 AM, "Art Zemon" <art(at)zemon.name

 <mailto:art(at)zemon.name>> wrote:



     Folks,



     I was about to order tools but thought that I ought to check here

     first, and see if any of you want to shed an excess tool or two. So

     far, I know that I need:



       * Wire stripper such as the Stripmaster that strips 16-26 AWG

       * Coax connector crimper, specifically to put connectors on RG-58



     I am part way through building a wire book so I don't have definite

     lengths for various kinds of wire but here is what I have so far:



       * RG-58, roughly 70 feet

       * 18 AWG red and black wire, a bunch

       * 22 AWG (or so) signal wire, single strand, twisted pairs,

         whatever, a bunch more

       * Faston connectors, solder type, a bunch



     Let me know if I can help you clean out your basement 



         -- Art Z.



     --

     http://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ <http://cheerfulcurmudgeon.com/>



     /"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for

     myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel/

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