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Bob Turner
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New 'before further flight' SB on Vans web site. Inspect aft spar for cracks at inboard ailleron attach point.
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Kellym
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 6:13 pm Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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I bought one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/AbleScope-VA-400-Borescope-Endoscope-Articulating/dp/B00GY7C9ZW?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Hooked up to my laptop I can take photos or video. The articulating head
is the primary attraction. Insert in cylinder, bend head 180 degrees to
look at valves. Bend 90 to look at cylinder walls.
On 5/8/2016 5:44 PM, John Cox wrote:
| Quote: | A low cost alternative that a few pilots have used is an endoscope of
7mm with six LEDs and connects to smart phones by mini USB. Get one
with Hook, 90 degree and 45 degree mirrors. www.banggood.com
<http://www.banggood.com>. They come in lengths from 2 meters to 5
meters. Just an idea.
John Cox
On May 8, 2016 17:36, "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)myrv10.com
<mailto:Tim(at)myrv10.com>> wrote:
That one is slightly different than the harbor freight one I got a
few years back. I paid about the same. It turned out to be a
waste. The head was too large to do anything useful for cylinder
inspections, and the resolution was so poor it was hard to see much
detail. If you buy it, make sure it's returnable. I hope some day
I run across a good one that doesn't break the bank.
Tim
On May 8, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7(at)yahoo.com
<mailto:cooprv7(at)yahoo.com>> wrote:
> Harbor Freight has an inspection camera with a 8.5mm camera for
> $79.99 ($169.99 with recording ability). Might be a good time to
> break down and get one. Might be cheaper options, this is just
> the first place I looked.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-inspection-camera-61839.html
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> Marcus
> On May 8, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com
> <mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com>> wrote:
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> I would think so. It sure would be nice to be able to use a
> borescope instead of removing the ailerons.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse(at)saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com>
> C: 352-427-0285 <tel:352-427-0285>
> F: 815-377-3694 <tel:815-377-3694>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 8, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca
> <mailto:kearney(at)shaw.ca>> wrote:
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>> Is there any chance an inspection probe / camera could be used
>> without disassembly?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 8, 2016, at 14:14, Kyle Boatright <kboatright1(at)comcast.net
>> <mailto:kboatright1(at)comcast.net>> wrote:
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>>> I would guess that if you use appropriate gust locks and avoid
>>> extreme use of the ailerons(e.g rolls), you're not likely to get
>>> cracks...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com
>>> <mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The most nagging thing about this SB is:
>>>>
>>>> 1) There have been no cracks found in the RV-10, per the SB.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Aileron removal is needed to inspect the RV-10.
>>>>
>>>> 3) If nothing is found, then put it all together again and take
>>>> it all apart next year.
>>>>
>>>> 4) The icing on the cake is this one:
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: Completion of the modifications in this service bulletin
>>>> as a preventative measure (prior to cracks being detected) on
>>>> wings that have been fully assembled is not recommended
>>>>
>>>> Finding cracks may be a good thing so you can at least close
>>>> out the inspection cycle instead of taking it apart over and
>>>> over again until you find something.
>>>>
>>>> I wish they'd just give us a preventative fix that could be
>>>> inspected in the future without removal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On May 8, 2016, at 9:27 AM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca
>>>> <mailto:kearney(at)shaw.ca>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:kearney(at)shaw.ca>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HI
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know the genesis for this SB? It seems like
>>>>> something that the average annual inspection might not catch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455977#455977
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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cooprv7(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 6:45 pm Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Another Amazon option, not as elegant, but a whole lot cheaper: http://www.amazon.com/Crenova-Megapixel-Endoscope-Waterproof-Inspection/dp/B016KUGVJC/ref=pd_cp_421_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05FC7G26DFW7MQCD39QA
Seems like it might just work.
Marcus
On May 8, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
I bought one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/AbleScope-VA-400-Borescope-Endoscope-Articulating/dp/B00GY7C9ZW?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
Hooked up to my laptop I can take photos or video. The articulating head is the primary attraction. Insert in cylinder, bend head 180 degrees to look at valves. Bend 90 to look at cylinder walls.
On 5/8/2016 5:44 PM, John Cox wrote:
| Quote: | A low cost alternative that a few pilots have used is an endoscope of
7mm with six LEDs and connects to smart phones by mini USB. Get one
with Hook, 90 degree and 45 degree mirrors. www.banggood.com
<http://www.banggood.com>. They come in lengths from 2 meters to 5
meters. Just an idea.
John Cox
On May 8, 2016 17:36, "Tim Olson" <Tim(at)myrv10.com
<mailto:Tim(at)myrv10.com>> wrote:
That one is slightly different than the harbor freight one I got a
few years back. I paid about the same. It turned out to be a
waste. The head was too large to do anything useful for cylinder
inspections, and the resolution was so poor it was hard to see much
detail. If you buy it, make sure it's returnable. I hope some day
I run across a good one that doesn't break the bank.
Tim
On May 8, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7(at)yahoo.com
<mailto:cooprv7(at)yahoo.com>> wrote:
> Harbor Freight has an inspection camera with a 8.5mm camera for
> $79.99 ($169.99 with recording ability). Might be a good time to
> break down and get one. Might be cheaper options, this is just
> the first place I looked.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-inspection-camera-61839.html
>
> Marcus
>
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> On May 8, 2016, at 5:49 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com
> <mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com>> wrote:
>
> I would think so. It sure would be nice to be able to use a
> borescope instead of removing the ailerons.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse(at)saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com>
> C: 352-427-0285 <tel:352-427-0285>
> F: 815-377-3694 <tel:815-377-3694>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 8, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca
> <mailto:kearney(at)shaw.ca>> wrote:
>
>> Is there any chance an inspection probe / camera could be used
>> without disassembly?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Les
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 8, 2016, at 14:14, Kyle Boatright <kboatright1(at)comcast.net
>> <mailto:kboatright1(at)comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would guess that if you use appropriate gust locks and avoid
>>> extreme use of the ailerons(e.g rolls), you're not likely to get
>>> cracks...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com
>>> <mailto:philperry9(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The most nagging thing about this SB is:
>>>>
>>>> 1) There have been no cracks found in the RV-10, per the SB.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Aileron removal is needed to inspect the RV-10.
>>>>
>>>> 3) If nothing is found, then put it all together again and take
>>>> it all apart next year.
>>>>
>>>> 4) The icing on the cake is this one:
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: Completion of the modifications in this service bulletin
>>>> as a preventative measure (prior to cracks being detected) on
>>>> wings that have been fully assembled is not recommended
>>>>
>>>> Finding cracks may be a good thing so you can at least close
>>>> out the inspection cycle instead of taking it apart over and
>>>> over again until you find something.
>>>>
>>>> I wish they'd just give us a preventative fix that could be
>>>> inspected in the future without removal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On May 8, 2016, at 9:27 AM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca
>>>> <mailto:kearney(at)shaw.ca>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:kearney(at)shaw.ca>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HI
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know the genesis for this SB? It seems like
>>>>> something that the average annual inspection might not catch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455977#455977
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 10:19 pm Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Kelly, that looks like an excellent value, as others I've spent for
several tries some money with just being disappointed, this gives clear
pictures with all the details and the bending head is great. Sure, I
could try another 6-7 of the cheap once but I rather have one working
and pay a bit more.
Cheers Werner
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:26 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Kelly, thanks for the recommendation. The photos
on that Amazon link looked good, so I ordered one.
It'll be a bit before I get a chance to use it. Too
many irons in the fire. But, it looks like it'll
be just fine.
Tim
do not archive
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Kellym
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:41 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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I got the recommendation from a review Aviation Consumer did some months
ago. I figured the price wasn't that different from the fixed head
scopes Harbor Freight has, and I always worried about mirrors getting
dropped in a cylinder.
All scopes I have seen take some practice to figure what distance from
the object works best with the auto focus. Generally you do better if
you can get the head as far away as possible, e.g. piston at bottom of
stroke. But it does work reasonably up close, and I have been able to
examine at least part of valve seats and valve heads to look for any
problems.
It supposedly works with tablets, but I have heard issues with getting
enough power for the LEDs and cameras from such devices. I just use a
Toshiba laptop that was retired from front line use 6 months ago.
I downloaded the software rather than use the older version on the
supplied mini-CD.
On 5/9/2016 6:23 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:41 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes.
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 7:13 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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were they able to inspect both places without removing anything?
Alan
| Quote: | On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac <cgroote1(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
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Jim Combs
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 8:27 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine.  Â
856 hours total time - no cracks.
Jim Combs
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 9:57 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Jim,
Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area.
thanks,
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine.  Â
856 hours total time - no cracks.
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 11:00 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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I have my wingtips off trying to get them to fit better. (Arg!)
But noticed that with the tips off, you have a straight line of sight to the backside of the bracket. With a long endoscope or borescope, you could get a good look at the backside.
Here's some photos...
Length from the outboard edge to the bracket is 56 inches. So a scope with that length of reach or more would be helpful.
Phil
[img]cid:389B057F-B1B2-4624-92E4-3C80D5153CAC[/img]
[img]cid:2C586E32-0094-4D77-BF87-EF89AD280900[/img]
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Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area.
thanks,
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine.
856 hours total time - no cracks.
Jim Combs
No Archive
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 11:12 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Just did the inspection on my -10, didn’t remove anything and used the cheaper inspection camera from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Crenova-Megapixel-Endoscope-Waterproof-Inspection/dp/B016KUGVJC/ref=pd_cp_421_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05FC7G26DFW7MQCD39QA $20.96 with Amazon Prime got it in 2 days. Not the fanciest thing going, but it worked with my old Netbook PC with Windows XP and has a pretty clear picture and adjustable lighting. The video is a bit slow, but I’m pretty certain that’s due to the computer being used. You can also record the video or take snap shots.
Most importantly, no cracks!
Marcus
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Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area.
thanks,
do not archiveOn Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: | I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine.
856 hours total time - no cracks.
Jim Combs
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EdKranz
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 11:37 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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I don't think that's the side that's hard to inspect. I believe it's the aft side of the spar, under the gar fairing, that requires the aileron to be removed and gap fairing to be trimmed.
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I have my wingtips off trying to get them to fit better. Â (Arg!)
But noticed that with the tips off, you have a straight line of sight to the backside of the bracket. Â With a long endoscope or borescope, you could get a good look at the backside.Â
Here's some photos...
Length from the outboard edge to the bracket is 56 inches. So a scope with that length of reach or more would be helpful.Â
Phil
[img]cid:389B057F-B1B2-4624-92E4-3C80D5153CAC[/img]
[img]cid:2C586E32-0094-4D77-BF87-EF89AD280900[/img]
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Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area.
thanks,
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine.  Â
856 hours total time - no cracks.
Jim Combs
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 11:47 am Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Could you, if you get it out again soon, post a photo of
what the screen looks like when inspecting something, to give
an idea of the quality?
Tim
On 5/10/2016 2:10 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
| Quote: | Just did the inspection on my -10, didn’t remove anything and used the
cheaper inspection camera from
Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Crenova-Megapixel-Endoscope-Waterproof-Inspection/dp/B016KUGVJC/ref=pd_cp_421_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05FC7G26DFW7MQCD39QA
$20.96 with Amazon Prime got it in 2 days. Not the fanciest thing
going, but it worked with my old Netbook PC with Windows XP and has a
pretty clear picture and adjustable lighting. The video is a bit slow,
but I’m pretty certain that’s due to the computer being used. You can
also record the video or take snap shots.
Most importantly, no cracks!
Marcus
On May 10, 2016, at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger <john(at)trollingers.com
<mailto:john(at)trollingers.com>> wrote:
Jim,
Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area.
thanks,
do not archive
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jiminlexky(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or
ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out
just fine.
856 hours total time - no cracks.
Jim Combs
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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD
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were they able to inspect both places without removing anything?
Alan
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 12:14 pm Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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I purchased one of these cheap endoscopes also except I got mine off bay. Mine came direct from China in less than 2 weeks and was about $22 with a 15 meter cord. Fooling around with it at home after I got it, I found the picture/video quality pretty good after I stopped moving it around and gave it time to focus in. I purchased it specifically for assisting me do thorough condition inspections. I am in the middle of condition inspection and will see how it works for this SB next time I get to the hanger.
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Could you, if you get it out again soon, post a photo of
what the screen looks like when inspecting something, to give
an idea of the quality?
Tim
On 5/10/2016 2:10 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
| Quote: | Just did the inspection on my -10, didn’t remove anything and used the
cheaper inspection camera from
Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Crenova-Megapixel-Endoscope-Waterproof-Inspection/dp/B016KUGVJC/ref=pd_cp_421_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=05FC7G26DFW7MQCD39QA
$20.96 with Amazon Prime got it in 2 days. Not the fanciest thing
going, but it worked with my old Netbook PC with Windows XP and has a
pretty clear picture and adjustable lighting. The video is a bit slow,
but I’m pretty certain that’s due to the computer being used. You can
also record the video or take snap shots.
Most importantly, no cracks!
Marcus
On May 10, 2016, at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger <john(at)trollingers.com
<mailto:john(at)trollingers.com>> wrote:
Jim,
Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area.
thanks,
do not archive
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jiminlexky(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or
ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out
just fine.
856 hours total time - no cracks.
Jim Combs
No Archive
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were they able to inspect both places without removing anything?
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 12:41 pm Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Sorry, I had intended to do that. Here are a few pictures from the cheaper Amazon camera.
I had to play around with the light strength a little and found it would gain down based on reflected light but by running the power all the way up or down then back to medium I could get a good look, at least for a short time. The pictures actually looked better on the screen, but still not going to win any resolution awards. These are actually reduced so as not to crush anyone’s inbox, this email is 811kb whereas it would be 4.8mb full size if that helps at all.
I used the little mirror that came with it, it stays very secure so I didn’t worry about it popping off someplace inconvenient.
Marcus
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>Could you, if you get it out again soon, post a photo ofwhat the screen looks like when inspecting something, to givean idea of the quality?TimOn 5/10/2016 2:10 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: | Quote: | | Just did the inspection on my -10, didn’t remove anything and used thecheaper inspection camera fromAmazon: john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)<mailto:john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)>> wrote:Jim,Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area.thanks,do not archiveOn Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)<mailto:jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)>> wrote: I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine. 856 hours total time - no cracks. Jim Combs No Archive On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net) <mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net)>> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net) <mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net (amekler(at)metrocast.net)>> were they able to inspect both places without removing anything? Alan > On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac <cgroote1(at)yahoo.com (cgroote1(at)yahoo.com) <mailto:cgroote1(at)yahoo.com (cgroote1(at)yahoo.com)>> wrote: > > --> RV10-List message posted by: iMac <cgroote1(at)yahoo.com (cgroote1(at)yahoo.com) <mailto:cgroote1(at)yahoo.com (cgroote1(at)yahoo.com)>> > > This morning the FBO here used their borescope on my -10. There was enough room without doing any extra work. Time - minutes. > > > > =========== -List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =========== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> =========== WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com <http://wiki.matronics.com/> =========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== |
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Service Bulletin |
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My cheap Harbor Freight "VideoStik" flexible scope that I bought several years ago has finally proved to be useful. Inspecting the inside of the wing part of this SB went just fine using this scope. The head is 10mm, so it is really useless as far as looking into cylinders, but worked great for this. The resolution was very good. I also took a few iPhone photos of the inside and they came out fine, as well. No cracks on the inside for me. On to the brackets tomorrow. I am going to try to do it without removing the ailerons, as Deems did, but may chicken out and remove them. I considered just drilling a hole in the gap cover large enough to look in with the scope, but with a 10mm head, that would be a pretty big hole. Still might take a look at doing that. I would like to have it so I don't have to take off the ailerons every year to look at those two rivets and that small corner of the bracket.
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Lew Gallagher
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 2:00 pm Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Hey guys,
Here is the one I got from China about a year and a half ago.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-7mm-6-LED-Waterproof-Borescope-Endoscope-Inspection-Snake-Scope-Tube-Camera-/171658700857?hash=item27f7a7e839:g:c2sAAOSwq5lTrUBz
It plugs directly into my usb laptop, for $10 it's a really nice picture.
Either snap shots, live, or video. I made little wire gizmos to help get it
where I wanted it, and it takes a little fiddling to get it oriented right.
I was tuning a boat motor and the manual called for setting the carb linkage
relative to the butterfly valve just beginning to move. Don't know how I
could have done it so easily without the scope.
Later, - Lew
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 2:15 pm Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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I have the vividia scope with he articulating head and I was able to inspect inside and outside on an RV-9A without removing anything at all. Took maybe 15 minutes for the whole inspection.
Jesse Saint
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| Quote: | On May 10, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:
were they able to inspect both places without removing anything?
Alan
> On May 10, 2016, at 10:39 AM, iMac <cgroote1(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
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Jim Combs
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 4:46 pm Post subject: Service Bulletin |
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Trying to post this for the third time. Â (Images too large!)
I used my Samsung Galaxy S5 Cell phone camera to take pictures. I have attached the raw and cropped photos for reference. I only attached the right side so as to not clutter up the forum with picture data. I reduced the size of the "Raw" image to allow it to post.  but you can see what the camera took before I cropped and zoomed the area of interest.
Turn on the flash, auto-focus and insert the camera in the inspection hole with the camera just inside the hole and the phone resting on the edge. Take the picture and then crop / zoom in on the area of interest. Did the same thing on the outside with the aileron up and down. Â
Both sides took 20 minutes.
I think this is good enough to do the inspection. Someone correct me, but I don't think removing the flaps and ailerons exposes much more of the area?
Aircraft has 856 hours over 5 years of flying.
Jim C
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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:55 PM, John Trollinger <john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Jim,
Can you attach the photos, trying to see best way to get images of the area.
thanks,
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I too was able to inspect the area without removal of the flaps or ailerons. I took pictures with my Samsung phone and they turned out just fine.  Â
856 hours total time - no cracks.
Jim Combs
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